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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: redrumloa on December 08, 2003, 08:21:38 PM

Title: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 08, 2003, 08:21:38 PM
Yup I towered a A3000 once before with pretty decent(though a tad ametuerish) results. This time I am going to take that experience and try to improve upon it by towering an A4000. The biggest difference this time, and it is a HUGE difference, is that I have both a dremel *AND* a mig welder:-D

I'd like to hear from people who have taclked this themselves recently. Maybe I will document my project this time, would make an interesting Aminet upload.
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Kronos on December 08, 2003, 08:24:11 PM
Orginal daughter-board, or exented (3rd party) one ?
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 08, 2003, 08:32:42 PM
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Kronos wrote:
Orginal daughter-board, or exented (3rd party) one ?


I have been debating this with myself. I think I am going to stick with the stock daughterboard, mediators are simply too expensive for my current budget :-( However I may very well pick up another Prometheus:-D
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Kronos on December 08, 2003, 09:02:29 PM
Or you could try to get one of the 7xZ3-thingis, not much to gain
unless you got lots of cards (like mine  ;-) , but makes the whole mess
much easier to handle (cards hanging upsidedown are not my kind of cake).
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Tigger on December 09, 2003, 07:24:50 AM
Red,

I've got a Micronik  Big Tower Amiga 4000 kit, i'd let you have for shipping costs.   I have my flyer in a Megatower 4000 (which is a much better case) so I never dremeled my way to a fully assembled Micronik.  
      -Tig

PS  Your other option is to buy the Megatower Toaster/Flyer system, and get it all assembled  :)
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Framiga on December 09, 2003, 10:52:25 AM
Hi Red,

take a look HERE (http://home.c2i.net/ghisdal/a4ktower)

I like it, because you can extract the Zorro cards, without problems. (the bottom of the case, is removable).

Ciao

Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 09, 2003, 10:59:35 AM
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Tigger wrote:
Red,
I've got a Micronik  Big Tower Amiga 4000 kit, i'd let you have for shipping costs.   I have my flyer in a Megatower 4000 (which is a much better case) so I never dremeled my way to a fully assembled Micronik.  
      -Tig


That have the 7 slot daughterboard? I'm going to have to take you up on that offer:-) It was one of my old dreams to have a 7 slot daughterboard with a Prometheus on the top slot. That would give 6 available ZIII and 4 available PCI, none inline all available at once...

/me drools all over the floor!

I will be PM'ing you shortly!
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: mikey2001 on December 09, 2003, 11:03:01 AM
 :-o  :-o  :-o I think a bigger power supply wouldnt go amiss as well!  ;-)  :-D
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 09, 2003, 11:03:14 AM
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Framiga wrote:
Hi Red,

take a look HERE (http://home.c2i.net/ghisdal/a4ktower)

I like it, because you can extract the Zorro cards, without problems. (the bottom of the case, is removable).

Ciao



Great site, cheers Framiga! Thanks:-)
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 09, 2003, 11:14:18 AM
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mikey2001 wrote:
 :-o  :-o  :-o I think a bigger power supply wouldnt go amiss as well!  ;-)  :-D


Yup I will probably end up needing a 400W PS:-D Besdies having 10 slots fully occupied I intend to have more drives than you can shake a stick at. Let's see.. Stock IDE port, Catweasel/Buddha, Cyberstorm *** SCSI.. How many devices does that add up to? :-D
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: mikey2001 on December 09, 2003, 02:36:56 PM
Im would love to see pictures of this project when it is finished, it would look fantastic!  :-D
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Kronos on December 09, 2003, 02:49:47 PM
@Red

Fitting the Prometheus in the top slot would probraly make the PCI-cards
with the CPU-card(and offcourse the drivebays).

No chance with my RBM-tower and the CS-MK1....
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 09, 2003, 04:00:09 PM
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No chance with my RBM-tower and the CS-MK1....


Well that will be my goal. I am ready to go ultra custom:-)
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Framiga on December 09, 2003, 04:15:58 PM
Hi Kronos

i'm thinking the same too.

Maybe if the first PCI is a low-profile . . .mhhh! i don't know.

Ciao

Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 09, 2003, 05:03:20 PM
Even so, heck how hard would a ~1 inch Zorro extender be to make? :-?
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Kronos on December 09, 2003, 05:21:34 PM
Easy ....

This is what you need:
2 PC-AT-Slots (the 100 pin ones for Zorro are hardto get).

2 PC-AT-cards (or one DEAD!!!! Zorro)

Cut the connector of the card(s), cut the AT-slots in a way to allow it to be
glued to one 100 pin slot. Solder the whole mess on what you had cut of from
the cards.

Sounds horriblle ? That's the way I made an A570 CD-ROM to work in
the Turbo-slot of my 1st A2000  :-o
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on December 09, 2003, 05:58:58 PM
Why towering?
It seems less space-effective to me.
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: redrumloa on December 09, 2003, 06:06:04 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Why towering?
It seems less space-effective to me.


How do you fit 10 expansion cards, 2+ 3.5 floppy drives, 2+ 5&1/4 floppy drives, CDR, DVD, 3+ hard drives etc etc into a stock case :-?
Title: Re: Yet another tower project, this time A4000! :-D
Post by: Crumb on December 09, 2003, 06:33:52 PM
@Redrumloa:
Elbox sells Zorro risers, not sure if that will help you much...

It's strange... I had a desktop 4000, now I have an Escom one and I would prefer to have a desktop (well, now that I'll have a prometheus it wouldn't be possible) due to the size it eats...