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Title: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: GobanToba on November 22, 2010, 11:24:03 PM
I know there a thread here a few weeks ago about the Doomy "Only Amiga" had been removed from Youtube (there we lots of backups).

At Amigaworld.net I read a post about Eric Shwartz doing an Only Amiga 25th anniversary tribute.  When I watched that Youtube video I saw a link to a new one by HansCampbell.

HansCampbell Youtube account shows it's 1 week old
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1SRopGN810


btw, here's the Eric Shwartz one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNR5vxAR22A
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on November 22, 2010, 11:41:00 PM
WOW!

Who would of thought such a terrible choone could end up sounding really cool?

But seriously no more of that.

(http://images.quebles.com/hotmail/emoticons/1511761.GIF)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on November 23, 2010, 12:55:08 AM
Isn't that the trance remix that Motorollin made? No surprises that HC would take all credit for it.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Arkhan on November 23, 2010, 01:09:32 AM
Quote from: Karlos;593665
Isn't that the trance remix that Motorollin made? No surprises that HC would take all credit for it.


true dat.  what a dick.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: countzero on November 23, 2010, 01:12:23 AM
Quote from: Kesa;593650
WOW!

Who would of thought such a terrible choone could end up sounding really cool?


FYI, I can hear quite a bit of vocoding on those vocals (It seems to have been fixed quite a bit)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Tension on November 23, 2010, 01:28:20 AM
Quote from: countzero;593669
FYI, I can hear quite a bit of vocoding on those vocals (It seems to have been fixed quite a bit)


autotune, often incorrectly mistaken for vocoding.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on November 23, 2010, 01:55:10 AM
Jesus christ.

I first saw the youtube version of this song 5 hours ago and i have been singing it in my head ever since. How long will this addiction last?

(http://wlive-c1.meegos.com/meegos/hotmail/50x50/b_music.gif)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: tone007 on November 23, 2010, 02:27:24 AM
Until you DIE.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Arkhan on November 23, 2010, 02:28:23 AM
Quote from: countzero;593669
FYI, I can hear quite a bit of vocoding on those vocals (It seems to have been fixed quite a bit)


I dont hear anything.

He sounded stupid and wobbly in the original too because it looks like he shot the video with a camera from 1985
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: persia on November 23, 2010, 03:09:17 AM
I like it, makes you feel all is right with the world having doomy singing about his Amigas.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on November 23, 2010, 10:18:33 AM
I really enjoyed that, but then again my medication is pretty strong... :)

The good news is that I'm currently working on a full blown West End style production of Only Amiga that is much more in line with the classic old musicals such as 'The Phantom Of The Opera', 'Oliver' & 'Les Miserables'.

This one is going to have a cast of thousands (well Doomy & a couple of backing singers) and with a full score written by Andrew (frog eyes) Lloyd Webber & the London Philharmonic Orchestra. It's still in the pre production and rehearsal stages right now but it's hard to tell just how well it's doing due to the fact that I've had to bung my ears up with a couple of carrots to make it bearable to edit & produce... :crazy:

Coming soon to an Amiga near you... 'Only Amiga The Musical'... :biglaugh:

...and for those that missed them first time around (and just for the sheer hell of it)... :roflmao:

[youtube]Cml_YsTznRU[/youtube]

[youtube]3PH2OGWsDb0[/youtube]
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: motorollin on December 02, 2010, 02:27:40 PM
Quote from: Karlos;593665
Isn't that the trance remix that Motorollin made? No surprises that HC would take all credit for it.


Reported to YouTube.

PS - Hi everyone :)

--
moto
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 02, 2010, 03:23:22 PM
Quote from: motorollin;596390

PS - Hi everyone :)


Hi moto, I was wondering where you were mate :)

Welcome back from wherever thou has beenest :drink:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: spihunter on December 02, 2010, 03:25:35 PM
You guys should seriously stop posting about this guy. Your going to summon him and it won't be pretty.....
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Belial6 on December 02, 2010, 03:29:24 PM
Quote from: motorollin;596390
Reported to YouTube.

PS - Hi everyone :)

--
moto


Wait, did you just report to YouTube that someone was using your song without permission when that was a song made from you using someone else's song without permission?!?!?
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: GadgetMaster on December 02, 2010, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596414
Wait, did you just report to YouTube that someone was using your song without permission when that was a song made from you using someone else's song without permission?!?!?

Yep. It's the most interesting drama you are going to get in the Amiga community right now so enjoy it. :lol:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: tone007 on December 02, 2010, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596414
Wait, did you just report to YouTube that someone was using your song without permission when that was a song made from you using someone else's song without permission?!?!?


Only Amiga makes it possible!
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: motorollin on December 02, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596414
Wait, did you just report to YouTube that someone was using your song without permission when that was a song made from you using someone else's song without permission?!?!?

I never claimed that what he produced was my own work - I was quite up front about the fact that it was a remix of his vocal track. Also, I made the remix for my own pleasure and put it on my web space. It was his decision to download it and use it in his YouTube video.

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moto
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 02, 2010, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: motorollin;596390
Reported to YouTube.

PS - Hi everyone :)

--
moto
Hey Mark! :)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: motorollin on December 02, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: bloodline;596438
Hey Mark! :)


Hi dude! How's things?
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 02, 2010, 05:47:20 PM
Seem's like Doomy's not willing to take part in a new release of Only Amiga that the guy who contacted me to find out how to contact HC so he could produce for him a professional quality version. But because of all the abuse & death threats he receives on YouTube Doomys not willing to take part. :(

Now I don't know Mr HC personally, only things that I've read about him but I don't blame the guy as some of the threats and comments posted on You tube about him are very personal and nasty indeed. You couldn't even repeat here some of the things some real crackpots have said about the guy. :eek:

Surely the DoomMaster can't be as bad as some of these folk make out to warrant such threats and disgusting comments made about him and his family or have I missed something here... :confused:

Unless HC's a mass murder or something I wonder what this guys done that so bad the whole world seems to hate him so much... :confused:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 02, 2010, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: Franko;596442
Unless HC's a mass murder or something I wonder what this guys done that so bad the whole world seems to hate him so much... :confused:

The trolling wasn't so bad, but he overstepped the mark when he allegedly started ripping people off.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 02, 2010, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Karlos;596445
The trolling wasn't so bad, but he overstepped the mark when he started ripping people off.

He's got a site these days buying and selling model trains, seems you send send him your model train for appraisal and he promises to give you a fair price for it... Hmm... I wonder... :)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: motorollin on December 02, 2010, 06:11:38 PM
@Franko
This is my first thread back after a sabbatical. Would you please allow me and bloodline to sabotage it as per the usual tradition? ;)

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moto
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 02, 2010, 06:17:04 PM
Quote from: motorollin;596448
@Franko
This is my first thread back after a sabbatical. Would you please allow me and bloodline to sabotage it as per the usual tradition? ;)

--
moto


Hi moto... :)

I wondered what became of you, you always left me some tricky one's in the "Name That Tune" thread... :lol:

Nice to see you back... :)

Sabotage away... ;)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: whabang on December 02, 2010, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: spihunter;596411
You guys should seriously stop posting about this guy. Your going to summon him and it won't be pretty.....


I hear he will appear in your thread if you say "mil spec" three times in a row.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 02, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
@whabang

Well, at least he won't be able to say "Powerful Pentium 4 PC" anymore... ;)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 02, 2010, 07:51:53 PM
Doomy's alive and well and living in his military spec reinforced bunker over on you tube. His current projects are "The Golden Age Of Home Computing" (mil spec of course)  something called "Shadowforge" (not sure what specs that one has) and buying and selling model trains (fully mil spec of course)... :lol:

Oh yeah and dodging bullets with his checkered (mil spec) shirt that he's still wearing to this very day... :roflmao:

(He's even got 15 subscribers/victims one of whom is a member here... :eek:)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: kolla on December 02, 2010, 08:29:56 PM
So where's the happy hardcore remix with doomy's squirrel voice? :)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Selles on December 02, 2010, 09:03:37 PM
You guys are so negative.  This Doomy guy is actually one of us, because he clearly loves the Amiga computer.  Unless you have proof that he did indeed rip people off, I would stop saying that about him.  Think about it, if he wanted to, he could hire a lawyer and sue Amiga Org.  He would win in a court of law because none of you have actual evidence that proves that he ripped anyone off.  Hearsay or gossip will not hold up in court.
 
Anyway, none of you guys had his permission to use any part of his video, including his vocals, to create your own versions of the video.  So, if Doomy decided that he liked one of your videos enough to use it as part of his new release, you should be flattered.
 
Many of you are so negative and I get a negative vibe from the Amiga Org community as a whole.  Wayne and his moderaters should do something about all of this negativity and make Amiga Org a happy, fun place to visit.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Belial6 on December 02, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
I have to say that you people own him an appology.  I have not had personal experience with him, so, I cannot support or defend the things he alledgedly did, but right here in this thread, we have character assasination.

Moto, you should be ashamed of yourself in perticular.  If you approach the subject of copyright from the 'copyright is stealing' POV, you ripped the guy off, and then went and reported him when he took his own property back.  Disgusting.  If you approach the subject of copyright from the from the 'information wants to be free' POV, your reporting of him was disgusting.  Apparently, you look at copyright from the 'anything I touch is mine' POV.

The fact that the rest of you jump non board and bash Doomy instead of Moto makes you part of the problem.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 02, 2010, 09:22:09 PM
Quote from: Selles;596488
Think about it, if he wanted to, he could hire a lawyer and sue Amiga Org.  He would win in a court of law because none of you have actual evidence that proves that he ripped anyone off.  Hearsay or gossip will not hold up in court.

No he couldn't, since responsibility for the opinions expressed belong to those that express them, not the site owners and everybody agrees to that when registering. Nice try, though.

Quote
Many of you are so negative and I get a negative vibe from the Amiga Org community as a whole.

You do, do you? /me polishes scope attachment for mil-spec tranquilliser gun...

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Wayne and his moderaters should do something about all of this negativity and make Amiga Org a happy, fun place to visit.

As much as we're all indebted to Wayne, there's not much he can do. He doesn't run the site any more. However, if memory serves, he did permanently ban DoomMaster in the first place, so you are rather barking up the wrong tree there.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 02, 2010, 09:26:39 PM
Quote from: Selles;596488
You guys are so negative.  This Doomy guy is actually one of us, because he clearly loves the Amiga computer.  Unless you have proof that he did indeed rip people off, I would stop saying that about him.  Think about it, if he wanted to, he could hire a lawyer and sue Amiga Org.  He would win in a court of law because none of you have actual evidence that proves that he ripped anyone off.  Hearsay or gossip will not hold up in court.
 
Anyway, none of you guys had his permission to use any part of his video, including his vocals, to create your own versions of the video.  So, if Doomy decided that he liked one of your videos enough to use it as part of his new release, you should be flattered.
 
Many of you are so negative and I get a negative vibe from the Amiga Org community as a whole.  Wayne and his moderaters should do something about all of this negativity and make Amiga Org a happy, fun place to visit.


As I've said before I don't know Mr HC personally and I used his audio & video to after seeing the original version posted at various times on here and re-done them for a bit of a laugh. I know HC has viewed them personally and he hasn't complained to either me or YouTube about the use of his stuff.

What he has allegedly done in his past is nothing to do with me, and from the guy who was wanting to get together with Doomy to produce a new version I've had no negative response to it from Doomy other than he doesn't wish to redo the video or audio again as he's quite happy leaving it in all it's current incarnations as is.

I reckon your reading a wee bit too much into this and taking things a wee bit too seriously, have you read some of the highly amusing posts here recently, don't think you'll find many other sites that allow folk to enjoy themselves and have fun with some of the funny things that are posted here as way of topic as you can get.

Lighten up a bit, join in and enjoy yourself, if you've looking to ask serious questions you will find plenty of folk here only too willing to help try and answer them, but that doesn't mean when nothing serious is going on that members shouldn't be able to pass the time with a bit of light hearted banter... :)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Belial6 on December 02, 2010, 09:41:39 PM
Selles did not say that DoomMaster could sue Wayne.  He said that DoomMaster could sue Amiga.Org.  That means WHOEVER owns it.  The fact that Wayne doesn't own it anymore doesn't protect the current owners of the site in anyway from anything.
[Edit:  Selles does mention Wayne.  Other than that, his point is still correct.]

The claim that comments are owned by the poster doesn't hold water once comments start getting moderated.  While Amiga.org give wide leeway to it's members in what they say (and I am glad that they do), Amiga.org does have in it's TOS that personal attacks are not allowed, and has taken action to moderate against them when it suits them.  That means they have taken responsibility for deciding when and if slanderous statements will be allowed.  No doubt, they could take the stance that they don't moderate unless a user requests it, but once someone complains, they need to be consistent.  Selles is correct in the view that Amiga.org is opening themselves up when they have TOS forbidding this behavior, but let it run unchecked when directed at a particular individual.

Besides all that.  The behavior is shameful.  Much of the Amiga.org membership are like vultures, picking at a dead corpse.  Doomy is gone from this site.  His account is dead.  Let it move on.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: adz on December 02, 2010, 09:42:49 PM
Quote from: Selles;596488
You guys are so negative.  This Doomy guy is actually one of us, because he clearly loves the Amiga computer.  Unless you have proof that he did indeed rip people off, I would stop saying that about him.  Think about it, if he wanted to, he could hire a lawyer and sue Amiga Org.  He would win in a court of law because none of you have actual evidence that proves that he ripped anyone off.  Hearsay or gossip will not hold up in court.
 
Anyway, none of you guys had his permission to use any part of his video, including his vocals, to create your own versions of the video.  So, if Doomy decided that he liked one of your videos enough to use it as part of his new release, you should be flattered.
 
Many of you are so negative and I get a negative vibe from the Amiga Org community as a whole.  Wayne and his moderaters should do something about all of this negativity and make Amiga Org a happy, fun place to visit.


How are you Hans?
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: motorollin on December 02, 2010, 09:43:10 PM
@Belial6
Like I said, I used his vocals but was very up front about this. I never claimed the vocals were my own work.

--
moto
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on December 02, 2010, 09:45:42 PM
I'm not sure about overseas' copyright laws but in Australia you can only sue for copyright if someone else was making or seeking to make a profit from your artistic work. I don't see that happening here     :rtfm:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 02, 2010, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596503
Doomy is gone from this site.

I suspect he's a lot closer than you think :)

He's had more than one account here in the past.

Quote
Let it move on.

Actually, nothing would give me greater pleasure. Unfortunately, people keep resurrecting his stuff.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: tone007 on December 02, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596489
appology alledgedly assasination perticular


Holy crap, get a spellchecker.  No wonder no one takes you seriously.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 02, 2010, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: tone007;596513
Holy crap, get a spellchecker.  No wonder no one takes you seriously.


I had to turn my spellchecker off, you should see some of the things it came up with when I try to write in Scottish... :)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on December 02, 2010, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: Franko;596517
I had to turn my spellchecker off, you should see some of the things it came up with when I try to write in Scottish... :)

Let me guess. Scottish came up as English?

:roflmao:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 02, 2010, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: Kesa;596519
Let me guess. Scottish came up as English?

:roflmao:

:lol::roflmao::lol:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: motorollin on December 02, 2010, 10:14:40 PM
If you read the original thread you'll see that the remixes were referred to as exactly that - original music featuring Doomy's original vocal. No ownership of the vocals was claimed by anybody. That's a bit different to Doomy using the remix in his video and saying "I did this".

For the record, my attitude to copyright is that credit should be given where it's due. My opinion is that this was done when the remix was posted by me, but not when HC used it in his video - hence the complaint.

Hope that clears things up.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: kedawa on December 02, 2010, 11:19:48 PM
There's nothing in the TOS about personal attacks on non-members, is there?
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 01:40:11 AM
Quote from: motorollin;596441
Hi dude! How's things?

Oh, been very busy with work... Got back into the Amiga scene to work on AROS 68k a bit, which is seriously good fun, Jason and Toni have done an amazing job with with it :)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: TheGoose on December 03, 2010, 03:04:04 AM
Quote from: spihunter;596411
You guys should seriously stop posting about this guy. Your going to summon him and it won't be pretty.....

Yeah not to mention they are all secretly jealous and envious cause they can't make totally epic youtube videos like the doomster. Doomy is 10x more famous than anyone in this thread will ever be.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 03, 2010, 03:09:12 AM
Quote from: TheGoose;596610
Doomy is 10x more famous than anyone in this thread will ever be.


Not if I keep nicking his stuff and taking credit for it he won't be... :roflmao:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on December 03, 2010, 03:22:46 AM
And besides Franko has his own Amiga.org poll dedicated to him!   :roflmao:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Belial6 on December 03, 2010, 06:32:29 AM
Quote from: tone007;596513
Holy crap, get a spellchecker.  No wonder no one takes you seriously.


Ahh yes, complaining about spelling.  'Internet' for "You are 100% correct, but since I too intellectually dishonest to admit that, I complain about your spelling instead of addressing the point of your post".
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on December 03, 2010, 07:21:36 AM
Quote from: Belial6;596636
Ahh yes, complaining about spelling.  'Internet' for "You are 100% correct, but since I too intellectually dishonest to admit that, I complain about your spelling instead of addressing the point of your post".

Where on earth did you get that from?

Forget that - do you speak english      :confused:

With confusing statements like that it's no wonder no one takes you seriously.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 07:37:09 AM
Quote from: Belial6;596636
Ahh yes, complaining about spelling.  'Internet' for "You are 100% correct, but since I too intellectually dishonest to admit that, I complain about your spelling instead of addressing the point of your post".
Ok, who broke Belial6? Come on, own up! ;)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Belial6 on December 03, 2010, 08:33:43 AM
CUSA used a drawing of a fantasy Amiga without permission, and got severley raked over the coals.

Motorollin uses DoomMasters Video without permission, then reports DoomMaster to YouTube for piracy when DoomMaster uses the modified version OF HIS OWN MUSIC in a new video, and people proceed to bag on DoomMaster, while giving Motorollin a hearty welcome back.

I think the sheer hypocrisy of the thread has caused some kind a stroke that damaged my internal spellchecker.  :eek:

That being said, it is still true that on the internet, when you believe you have the facts on your side, you argue the facts, when you don't believe you have the facts on your side, you argue the spelling.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Belial6;596658
CUSA used a drawing of a fantasy Amiga without permission, and got severley raked over the coals.

Motorollin uses DoomMasters Video without permission, then reports DoomMaster to YouTube for piracy when DoomMaster uses the modified version OF HIS OWN MUSIC in a new video, and people proceed to bag on DoomMaster, while giving Motorollin a hearty welcome back.

I think the sheer hypocrisy of the thread has caused some kind a stroke that damaged my internal spellchecker.  :eek:

That being said, it is still true that on the internet, when you believe you have the facts on your side, you argue the facts, when you don't believe you have the facts on your side, you argue the spelling.
First we need to establish who owns the rights to the song (I would expect COmmodore to have bought them lock stock an barrel)... So off you go and get that sorted out for us! Cheers x
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: tone007 on December 03, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
Quote
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Mark Ashley.


@Belial6

Your spelling has much improved! Gold star for the day!
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on December 03, 2010, 12:24:27 PM
Who's Mark Ashley?
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 03, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: Kesa
Who's Mark Ashley?
I'm Mark Ashley and so's my wife.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Kesa on December 03, 2010, 12:30:20 PM
Quote from: Karlos;596678
I'm Mark Ashley and so's my wife.

Your wifes name is Mark? Hmmmmmm......     :confused:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 03, 2010, 12:34:08 PM
*shakes head*

Kids today, eh? :lol:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Boot_WB on December 03, 2010, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: GobanToba;593646
[...]I saw a link to a new one by HansCampbell.[...]


No. Just no.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 01:35:16 PM
Quote from: Kesa;596681
Your wifes name is Mark? Hmmmmmm......     :confused:
By Order Of The Management: purchase and watch one Monty Python film per day for the next month. Learn every joke by heart. That is all.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Boot_WB on December 03, 2010, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: bloodline;596692
By Order Of The Management: purchase and watch one Monty Python film per day for the next month. Learn every joke by heart. That is all.


31 Monty Python films? Depends whether you count Senor Gilliam's portfolio I suppose.

Quote
By Order Of The Management


Hmm, I think you've filed your Hale & Pace collection in the wrong DVD case :-P
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: J-Golden on December 03, 2010, 02:02:31 PM
And what about those Non-Monty Python movies like "Yellow Beard" that had almost the whole cast OF Monty Python in it! Do those count?
 
And I'm just wondering, what would you do if you had a sit down dinner with Doomy?
 
Please, discous...
 
And pardon the spelling ;)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 02:26:20 PM
Quote from: Boot_WB;596698
31 Monty Python films? Depends whether you count Senor Gilliam's portfolio I suppose.

No I intended him to repeat view their films... I will allow Ripping Yarns to add flavour...

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Hmm, I think you've filed your Hale & Pace collection in the wrong DVD case :-P


I wondered where that had got too :p
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 03, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: bloodline;596702
I will allow Ripping Yarns to add flavour...


:lol: I have the complete set :D
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 03, 2010, 02:50:12 PM
Has anyone joined in with "Follow The Killer Rabbit" on "The Extraordinarily Deluxe Edition" of "Monty Pythons & The Holly Grail".... It's brill... :lol:
(Has extra subtitles too from Shakespears Henry IV Part II for those who don't like the film... :))
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Boot_WB on December 03, 2010, 03:01:13 PM
Quote from: Karlos;596705
:lol: I have the complete set :D


So do I. Oh dear. :blush:

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Call me School Bully, you horrible little headmaster.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: motorollin on December 03, 2010, 05:12:31 PM
I'm just going to say one more thing on the subject of this stupid track:

Doomy's original vocal performance: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors
My remix: uploaded to private web space and link provided, credit given to Doomy
Doomy's new video: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors

It's the dishonesty that bugs me, not the legality.

Now on a more serious note, would I get lynched if I admitted that I've never seen a Python film?

--
moto
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 05:17:22 PM
Quote from: motorollin;596741


Now on a more serious note, would I get lynched if I admitted that I've never seen a Python film?


:roflmao: :confused:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: desiv on December 03, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
My $0.0000002 on it.. (for no reason...)
Quote from: motorollin;596741
Doomy's original vocal performance: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors
Not a shock on youtube...  
Quote from: motorollin;596741
My remix: uploaded to private web space and link provided, credit given to Doomy
Good for you for the credit given..
Quote from: motorollin;596741
Doomy's new video: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors
Not a shock on youtube, but not bad on him that he didn't flame or complain...

You complaining to youtube about his misuse of your file which was his voice that you re-did with credit, but without permission. (not saying permission is needed, just stating it..)

Really??  I know what you say about it..  But in my opinion..  Really?? :confused:
Sounds petty to me...  But that's just me I suppose...

Quote from: motorollin;596741
Now on a more serious note, would I get lynched if I admitted that I've never seen a Python film?
Yes...  :roflmao:

desiv
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 03, 2010, 05:28:47 PM
Quote from: motorollin;596741
Now on a more serious note, would I get lynched if I admitted that I've never seen a Python film?

--
moto


This is what happens to those who haven't seen a Pythons movie or sketch... :)

[youtube]ZNeq2Utm0nU[/youtube]

(it also applies to PC users... :lol:)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Arkhan on December 03, 2010, 05:28:51 PM
monty pythons not funny.
 
just sayin'
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: GadgetMaster on December 03, 2010, 05:31:48 PM
Quote from: Arkhan;596759
monty pythons not funny.
 
just sayin'

Quick! An emergency sense of humour transpant is required.

Where's the "Brain Specialist" when you need him?

Too late. He's a lost cause.

Ahh well. Not everyone will get it. Your loss I suppose. ;)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Arkhan on December 03, 2010, 05:32:56 PM
I dont find most british humor very funny to be honest.  It takes too long to get to the punchline and half the time its not even a good one.
 
That dennis pennis guy is funny though.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: whabang on December 03, 2010, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Arkhan;596759
monty pythons not funny.
 
just sayin'

That's worse than saying Jehova! :madashell:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 03, 2010, 05:35:27 PM
Think it's time for this one... :)

[youtube]IIlKiRPSNGA[/youtube]

(this one applies to 99% of Americans...:roflmao: )
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: desiv on December 03, 2010, 05:35:44 PM
Quote from: Arkhan;596764
I dont find most british humor very funny to be honest.  It takes too long to get to the punchline

Ah!!  That's your problem then!!

You're expecting a punchline...  :lol:
They ain't that kind of humour..   :)

desiv
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Arkhan on December 03, 2010, 05:40:31 PM
well im mostly just expecting a laugh at some point, and never find them.   im still waiting for someone to show me a monty python thing that makes me laugh.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Belial6 on December 03, 2010, 05:55:05 PM
Quote from: bloodline;596660
First we need to establish who owns the rights to the song (I would expect Commodore to have bought them lock stock an barrel)... So off you go and get that sorted out for us! Cheers x


No, we don't.  The only difference the original the owner of the song would make is whether DoomMaster is in judging DoomMaster.  It doesn't change the hypocrisy that has been shown by tearing CUSA apart for the same activity that you all seem perfectly fine with Motorollin for.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 06:08:52 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596783
No, we don't.  The only difference the original the owner of the song would make is whether DoomMaster is in judging DoomMaster.  It doesn't change the hypocrisy that has been shown by tearing CUSA apart for the same activity that you all seem perfectly fine with Motorollin for.
You do know that Doomy didn't write the song? Yes? He has covered it, the songwriter (or rather the song's publisher) is due a royalty for it. Follow Moto's posts for his side of the legal debate. x
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: tone007 on December 03, 2010, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596783
No, we don't.  The only difference the original the owner of the song would make is whether DoomMaster is in judging DoomMaster.  It doesn't change the hypocrisy that has been shown by tearing CUSA apart for the same activity that you all seem perfectly fine with Motorollin for.


Motorollin isn't trying to make money off of it, therefore, it's quite a different activity.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: desiv on December 03, 2010, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: tone007;596788
Motorollin isn't trying to make money off of it, therefore, it's quite a different activity.
Neither is Doomy trying to make money off of Mororollin's version..

desiv
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: tone007 on December 03, 2010, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: desiv;596789
Neither is Doomy trying to make money off of Mororollin's version..


Don't confuse the issues.   I was responding to:

Quote from: Belial6
It doesn't change the hypocrisy that has been shown by tearing CUSA apart for the same activity that you all seem perfectly fine with Motorollin for.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: desiv on December 03, 2010, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: tone007;596790
Don't confuse the issues.   I was responding to
Why not??
Next you're going to say my posts should have a point, aren't you?

Jeesh!  This place is getting fascist!  :roflmao:

:-)

desiv
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Belial6 on December 03, 2010, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: motorollin;596741
I'm just going to say one more thing on the subject of this stupid track:

Doomy's original vocal performance: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors
My remix: uploaded to private web space and link provided, credit given to Doomy
Doomy's new video: uploaded to YouTube, no credit given to authors

It's the dishonesty that bugs me, not the legality.

Now on a more serious note, would I get lynched if I admitted that I've never seen a Python film?

--
moto


Complaining that he didn't give you credit for using his singing is one thing.  That's not what you did though.  You told YouTube that he was violating copyright.  And you did it over a soundtrack that you took in violation of copyright from him.

Now, understand, while I think that what you did was a jerky thing to do, even worse is the lynch mob that uses copyright violation as an excuse to abuse people they have decided to target, while treating others who do the same thing as long lost friends.

Personally, I don't think that what DoomMaster did with his original video is bad.  I don't think you using DoomMasters video was bad.  I don't think that what DoomMaster did with your video was bad.

While you may have been offended that he didn't give you credit for the source material that you edited, you reporting him WAS bad.  No doubt, you don't give credit EVERY single time that you repeat something you got from someone else.  For example, I suspect that you have sung 'Happy Birthday' to someone in your life, and I doubt that you gave credit when you did.

Worst of all is the double standard that this community places on copyright.  I'm sure that there are people that will want to point out that they didn't comment in one thread or another, but chiming in about the evils of copyright when it is someone you have decided that you don't like, but staying quit while someone else defends the person you like for the same thing is still hypocritical.  Double teaming your enemies doesn't make bad behavior good.

A good example is with Piru.  In the CUSA threads, he made post after post explaining how unethical CUSA are for violation copyright.  He puts links showing how he has been interested in copyright for a long time.  How he wasn't using copyright as an excuse to attack CUSA when the real reason was something else.  It is pointing that he has not 'noticed' this thread.  Based on his professed values, he should be in here ripping you a new one.  It is clear by the thread title that this thread involves discussions about copyright.

So, while I cannot guarantee that Piru didn't just happen to miss this thread, when we see the same 'just happen' repeating itself over and over again with most of the boards members, it becomes pretty clear what is going on.

Honestly, given that DoomMaster has been permanently banned from this site, it is of questionable behavior that the moderators don't immediately lock any thread discussing him.  Moderators allowing the posters to say ANYTHING they want about someone, when that person has been disallowed to respond in defense of themselves is not really up and up behavior.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Karlos on December 03, 2010, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: Belial6;596805
Honestly, given that DoomMaster has been permanently banned from this site, it is of questionable behavior that the moderators don't immediately lock any thread discussing him

Oh great. We do anything remotely like that and all we get are people screaming until they are blue in the face about censorship. Here, do you want the bloody job?

People should just stop resurrecting his crap and we'd all be happy.

But no, somebody always has to "ooh look, Doomy!" :lol:
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 03, 2010, 08:22:19 PM
OH...

erm... does that mean I should stop working on my current "Only Amiga" remix (it's done with bagpipes this time, you know) that I was going to post here over the weekend... :(

(it's actually quite good and doesn't feature Doomy this time, I dood all the singing meself... :))
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: bloodline on December 03, 2010, 08:27:29 PM
@Belial6

Relax, the good news is that all violations have been removed... If you want a copy just send a nice PM to moto and I'm sure he'll send you a private copy.
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: adz on December 04, 2010, 02:09:19 AM
Quote from: Arkhan;596759
monty pythons not funny.
 
just sayin'


So, errr, you find Anime entertaining?

Right then smarty pants, why don't you provide a link to something you find funny and we'll go from there?
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: tone007 on December 04, 2010, 03:26:34 AM
Quote from: Franko;596811
OH...

erm... does that mean I should stop working on my current "Only Amiga" remix (it's done with bagpipes this time, you know) that I was going to post here over the weekend... :(

(it's actually quite good and doesn't feature Doomy this time, I dood all the singing meself... :))


This sounds good.  I never got around to buying a set of bagpipes myself..
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: Franko on December 04, 2010, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: tone007;596900
This sounds good.  I never got around to buying a set of bagpipes myself..


Look's like it's gonna be a few more days, woke up with a ruddy sore throat today and can't finish the chorus... :(

Handy Tip About Bagpipes: Catch yourself a plump wild haggis, stun it with a quick blow to the head, hollow out it's insides then stick a straw up it's bum and there you have it, One set of BagPipes... :)
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: slaapliedje on December 04, 2010, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: Arkhan;596771
well im mostly just expecting a laugh at some point, and never find them.   im still waiting for someone to show me a monty python thing that makes me laugh.

If you can't laugh at this, there is something wrong with you.  And yes, this sketch has a simple joke that makes me laugh every time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GH7pfVvCII
Title: Re: DoomMaster posts new "better" Only Amiga vid
Post by: desiv on December 04, 2010, 08:30:52 PM
OMG!  I'd forgotten most of that one...

HYSTERICAL!!!!  :-)  :-)
Thanx!

desiv