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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: RobertB on November 14, 2010, 06:03:17 AM
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It's been a long time in coming, but Brian Bagnall, author of the book, "On the Edge: the Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore", has confirmed that his new book, "Commodore: A Company on the Edge", is at the printer right now and will be shipped soon. In fact, at Amazon.com there is page that says that Variant Press will release the book on December 15. Just in time for Christmas!
To see the initial announcement, go to
http://www.amazon.com/Commodore-Company-Edge-Brian-Bagnall/dp/0973864966/ref=sr_ob_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289706472&sr=8-1
Think of the new book as a second edition of On the Edge. Here is what Brian had to say, "It was a long road and a lot of work to get the second edition into shape. There was so much new information from the 15 additional interviews and tons of pictures that I had to split the book into two parts. A Company on the Edge deals with the period up until Tramiel leaves and the second part (slated for 2012) will tell the post-Tramiel years with the Amiga. Each book deals with about a 10 year period, and a lot of players change in 1984 so it worked out to be a pretty good split."
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
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Very cool. I enjoyed the first book and am looking forward to the second and third.
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Why on the Amazon's page it is said that it's the 2nd edition?
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It does seem to be a different book with a different title.. Maybe since the bulk of it came from the first book?
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This is great news. I loved the first one so I will order this one right away...
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Here is what Brian had to say, "It was a long road and a lot of work to get the second edition into shape. There was so much new information from the 15 additional interviews and tons of pictures that I had to split the book into two parts. A Company on the Edge deals with the period up until Tramiel leaves and the second part (slated for 2012) will tell the post-Tramiel years with the Amiga. Each book deals with about a 10 year period, and a lot of players change in 1984 so it worked out to be a pretty good split."
That sounds like a pretty good description of the differences.
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Check again.
It's been shelved, if you'll pardon the expression.
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Check again.
It's been shelved, if you'll pardon the expression.
I suppose that this book was already available in 2009 and this time it is something like reedition. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Are you saying the book has been cancelled?
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It's been discussed here a few times, apparently the 2nd Edition will not be published.
This is a shame as the original copies are hard to get, and sometimes go for silly money on Amazon. I've been trying to get a copy for a while now.
Good luck folks!
EDIT: A quick check on Amazon show there are '2 new from $170.62 11 used from $107.00'. LOL.
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Check again.
It's been shelved, if you'll pardon the expression.
It was available for preorder for a release in February 2010, which never happened. According to Robert's post, it looks like it's back on track for release... unless that's very old info.
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It was available for preorder for a release in February 2010, which never happened. According to Robert's post, it looks like it's back on track for release... unless that's very old info.
Hm, the only comment on that "initial annoucement" is from March...
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According to Robert's post, it looks like it's back on track for release... unless that's very old info.
The information came directly from Brian Bagnall in an e-mail message to me yesterday and has also been confirmed by Ian Matthews of http://www.commodore.ca Brian gave me permission to spread the news. If you have further questions, I can get you in contact with Brian.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
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The information came directly from Brian Bagnall in an e-mail message to me yesterday and has also been confirmed by Ian Matthews of http://www.commodore.ca Brian gave me permission to spread the news. If you have further questions, I can get you in contact with Brian.
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
Robert, could you see if Brian would be interested in coming onto ART after the new book is out? I tried to get a hold of Brian sometime ago directly, but never got a reply.
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O.K., I can forward your message to him.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
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The information came directly from Brian Bagnall in an e-mail message to me yesterday and has also been confirmed by Ian Matthews of http://www.commodore.ca Brian gave me permission to spread the news. If you have further questions, I can get you in contact with Brian.
Great to hear! Looking forward to this!
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This is good news. I have the first book and yes, this is in essence a second edition of the existing book. The First edition it was primised there would be a slew of "additional chapters" for download after it was published. I think he did release one or two. One was on the KIM. This edition adds acording to what I read, interviews with one of the Tramiel's and added information.
I tried ordering this when online bookstores first started listing it and had those cancelled as its date slipped and slipped. I thought for sure we'd never see it.
Great that it is, hopefully, close to our hands.
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The First edition it was primised there would be a slew of "additional chapters" for download after it was published. I think he did release one or two.
I never heard of a "slew" of chapters being promised, but Chapter 1.5 was released and was available on the website for quite awhile (1.5 no longer there now).
This edition adds acording to what I read, interviews with one of the Tramiel's...
Not just one of the Tramiels but Jack Tramiel!
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org
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It was a "slew". I dont recall the exact number. He had a website that listed at least, IIRC, 5 chapters to be added free. One being the chapter on the KIM where the Chapter title in the list of to be released chapters was turned into a link to get the PDF. I wish I could recall the other promised chapters but, hey, they were to be free so you can't really complain. The book was a great value without them.
I just wish I could find my copy of that chapter since you can't get it online anymore. I also wish the book was available somplace in ebook format since its a hefty thing to carry around and I have a great ebook reader I'd love to have it on not to mention my phone.
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I think I've got that KIM chapter somewhere. Drop me a PM with your email address...
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Yes, I'll be interested too. But then it has the same contents of the first book plus new things or is it a very different book?
I've been looking to buy the first, but I don't have $200 for a book...
I've found some chapters in pdf here:http://www.retrocomputacion.com/cgi-bin/foro/YaBB.pl?num=1226970524/23
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Brian Bagnall, the author of the book, has been posting here (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32729&forum=2&viewmode=flat&order=0)
If you want to ask him any questions, he might be keeping an eye on that thread, although email may be preferred.
#6
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Awesome, that forum post had the Kim additional chapter. The rest are mostly the 'few page' teasers but you can see, its not until Chapter 19 they hit Amiga which only has 5 chapters. Amiga side always felt rushed in the book to me so I am hopeing there are more of the stories from people to flesh that out in the new edition that my fingers are right now itching to get my hands on.
I've heard Dave Haynie speak as well as others involved in Amiga and I know there is more of interest there to people hopeing to keep the Commodore legacy in computer history alive.
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For those who haven't read the AW thread that number6 linked to: The version that's out shortly is covering mainly 1974 to 1984, so mainly the 8-bits and up until Tramiel leaves, but in more detail than the original. The Amiga will be covered far more thoroughly in a second volume which I think isn't due until 2012, but will cover 1984 to 1994.
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Yes I just read the thread over on the other forum. It is kind of odd that it isnt called "Second Edition: Volume 1" with the expected second edition volume 2 coming in 2012. Nice to see there is additional Amiga material as well as an interview with the designer of the Commodore 65. Though what he writes there seems to imply that the C65 stuff will be in the second volume since that happened suring the Amiga years. So we have to wait until 2012 for that.
Another thing I find odd is that the Variant Press site has the book for sale (signed by the author) without saying that its in essence a preorder.
I really hope buyond hope they make an electronic version available. Would love to carry this book around in my eReader and/or phone.
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Hi everyone. Thanks for all your comments. I’ve just received copies of the book and the publisher is ready to ship (anyone who pre-ordered from VariantPress.com will have them shipped today). The book’s distributor will receive them shortly and they should be able to get them out to the booksellers within a month.
I'll post a more detailed post about the new book in a day or two.
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I trust this version will be proofread and spellchecked a bit better ;).
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Hi everyone. Thanks for all your comments. I’ve just received copies of the book and the publisher is ready to ship (anyone who pre-ordered from VariantPress.com will have them shipped today). The book’s distributor will receive them shortly and they should be able to get them out to the booksellers within a month.
I'll post a more detailed post about the new book in a day or two.
Anywhere I can buy a copy from the UK? (preferably signed)
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Bump etc