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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: trip6 on November 14, 2010, 12:23:06 AM
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I am in the process of setting g up a new CF hard drive for my winter project. Which is better AmigaSys4 or ClassicWB for a Workbench 3.1 rig? for a Workbench OS 3.9 rig? Thanks. All opinions appreciated. Please state why you like one better than the other.
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For me its Classic Workbench, both 3.1 and OS3.9 packs are nice.
I particually like the ADV SP pack becuase it looks just like 3.9 but runs much quicker.
IGame+ the screenshots pack is awesome and I prefer the layout and the Scalos/menu system.
The packs include all the useful tools you need and they're not overdone like I find with Amigasys4 which has too much going on.
Steve.
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AmiKit
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AmiKit
I thought that was a huge pain to get running on a non-WinUAE setup.
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AmiKit
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I was leanining toward Classic WB... I think this may have made my decision much more easy... Any other opinions?
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It's pretty easy to make two bootable partitions on your drive and install them both, then just use them for a little while until you find the one you like most. Or make three partitions, have plain Workbench 3.1 on one, ClassicWB and AmigaSYS on the other two, and make your own hybrid system, taking the best parts from either one and learning more about the Amiga Operating System along the way.
While they're both well put together and are great for people just getting back into the Amiga or using them for the first time, I still found them a little too limited or flawed in some small way for my own purposes, so I started working on my own Workbench distributions to see if I could do any better myself. I'm working on two packs, one for moderately expanded Amigas and another for low-end systems. These won't be ready for a while because we still need an Amiga project forum separate from the discussion forums where we can get work done on things like this, but they're coming so keep in mind ClassicWB and AmigaSYS (and AmiKit) won't be the only choices for long.
I'm not trying to say anyone should stop using AmigaSYS or ClassicWB! They're great, and they're ready now. But I just don't think either one is perfect, and couldn't tell you which one to choose over the other.
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...I'm working on two packs, one for moderately expanded Amigas and another for low-end systems.
Great! I love to see what ppl come up with when resources are restricted (like many of my Amigas).
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Gotta be honest, after using Dopus Magellen 2 on my miggies, I always felt hobbled going back to just plain workbench so if I had to choose, I'd go with anything that offered more than just the bog standard workbench.
Your mileage may of course, vary.
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. But I just don't think either one is perfect.
ClassicWB IS perfect. end of story. :afro:
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You need an expanded system but I have had it running on my 4000.
http://amikit.amiga.sk/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=9&topic=215
http://amikit.amiga.sk/download/misc/documents/AmiKit_on_real_Amiga.pdf
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You know one thing that is missing from all of these Amiga "distributions"? A how to guide to getting a stock install up to the same level. Well really all it would need is a list of what they include. Some may want to just take certain components and create their own setup.
A good example is that when trying to set up my A4000, I was trying to get the Netsurf 68k to work. It works right off the bat on AmigaSYS, but it kept saying I was missing all these MCC_ files on my real Amiga.
Never did quite get it to work right.
slaapliedje
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Will be new version?
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You know one thing that is missing from all of these Amiga "distributions"? A how to guide to getting a stock install up to the same level. Well really all it would need is a list of what they include. Some may want to just take certain components and create their own setup.
slaapliedje
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I will be writing a guide on installing each of the components of our upcoming packs so people can simply add parts of it to their own installations if they don't want to install the whole distribution. In fact I want to write a whole book full of guides on how to do things with the Amiga and make it free to download.
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I will be writing a guide on installing each of the components of our upcoming packs so people can simply add parts of it to their own installations if they don't want to install the whole distribution. In fact I want to write a whole book full of guides on how to do things with the Amiga and make it free to download.
Maybe you could write your book and then get people to donate a small sum of their own choosing via paypal and then they get the book from you via email Cammy?
I'm sure most of us would be willing to donate at least a couple of quid to help you out.
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I'm working on two packs, one for moderately expanded Amigas and another for low-end systems. .
With an abundance of 500s (plus) and 600s out there if you could get these to work on OS2.x that would be amazing. I'm using a custom 2.1 on my A600 but a barebones OS someone can just install from a 1 or 2 floppies on a carboot purchased machine would be excellent, if only for the resale value it would add.
I can image a perfectly designed attractive 4 colour 2.x based system running stock 1MB (optionally hard disk) with optional CF0: would be ideal... I'm running something like that :) with some stock games and apps thrown in on a second disk for the fun of it. Stick some nice labels on those disks, a printed txt file or PDF and you have a distribution. :)
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While I will make the iconset and separate components available for someone to make their own 2.x disk, I don't want to focus on it at all. I have a few A500s and A600s and they all have Kickstart 3.1 in them (some still have 1.3 as well on ROM Switchers).
The whole Amiga experience is better with Kickstart 3 instead of 2, and barely uses any extra RAM if any. Kickstart 3.1 EPROMs can be picked up so cheap these days, or you can flash them yourself if you have the hardware. I don't mind if someone wants to make a 2.x version, but I'd rather focus on one for A500s and A600s with 3.x ROMs and provide instructions on how to acquire the ROMs. If anyone needs a hand getting some they're welcome to send me a private message.
The idea of the smaller Workbench is to be able to run from floppy with the option to install it, so it should be pretty close to what you want.
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@Everyone - thanks for all the great comments and opinions...
@Cammy - as usual... you rock... looking forward to seeing the packs that you develop... and if I ever get to Australia to hangout with my brother who lives in Tuwumba (I think thats how you spell it...), maybe we can hangout someday...
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@Cammy - as usual... you rock... looking forward to seeing the packs that you develop... and if I ever get to Australia to hangout with my brother who lives in Tuwumba (I think thats how you spell it...), maybe we can hangout someday...
Is it dating? :) :)
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No I don't even know her besides from on the forums... I just like to meet C64\Amiga sceners in real life when I have the opportunity... If I am ever in your neck of the woods... wouldnt mind hanging out with you Xanxi...
Is it dating? :) :)