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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Franko on November 12, 2010, 05:10:26 AM
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Just wondering what is the most popular Amiga OS used in the Amiga community, which OS do you use the most... :)
1) OS 1.3
2) OS 2.04
3) OS 3.0
4) OS 3.1
5) OS 3.5
6) OS 3.9
7) OS 4.0
8) OS 4.1
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Where is the 3.0 Kickstart and 3.1 Workbench option?
I've got my money on that one. ;)
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Sorry but I'm in the habit of calling OS 3.0 & OS 3.1 the same thing as kickstart... :)
Reckon myself 3.0 will lead the way as a lot of folk never got round to upgrading the ROMS to 3.1... :)
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For me:
On my Amiga Real Machine (ARM) I use AmigaOS 3.9
On my Amiga Virtual Machine (AVM) I use AmikitOS
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Sorry but I'm in the habit of calling OS 3.0 & OS 3.1 the same thing as kickstart... :)
Reckon myself 3.0 will lead the way as a lot of folk never got round to upgrading the ROMS to 3.1... :)
Guilty. Has 3.1 installed but 3.0 ROMs
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OS2.4? There was no OS2.4, only OS2.0x and OS2.1 (and Kickstart 2.0x, x=0,4,5).
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3.1 here. Heck, I've only recently acquired the hardware needed to run anything newer (well, except uCLinux, maybe.) I haven't gotten too far into anything power-userish, but unless I really need to use something that won't run on it I think I'll be sticking with 3.1.
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B2000: 3.1 with Classic WB Picasso96
A1200: 3.1 with Classic WB ADV (sp?).
PZ.
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OS2.4? There was no OS2.4, only OS2.0x and OS2.1 (and Kickstart 2.0x, x=0,4,5).
I know, made a typo and it's been years since I last used 2.04 on my old A1500, can't change it now though... :o
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OS 3.1 with relokick when needed.
Use to have 2.04 on my A2000. Just an early 1.3 on my A500.
Things are getting slow around here, how about some UAE threads to jazz things up?
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3.1 for me :)
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OS2.4? There was no OS2.4, only OS2.0x and OS2.1 (and Kickstart 2.0x, x=0,4,5).
Just dug out my old OS 2.04 floppies, so OS 2.04 did exist...
Thought I was losing my memory for a moment there... :)
@ ElPolloDiabl
What's there to discuss about UAE that would be interesting... :confused:
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Workbench 3.1 customised to the max on classic hardware.
I have a 3.9 partition for testing stuff though, but it's just too slow compared to 3.1.
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For me it is the OS4.1 on my SAM and 1.3 on the Minimig.
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3.x
(Did you see what I did there?)
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3.1 here, with some carefully picked add-ons which make it more functional than 3.9 and yet faster. 3.9 is a piece of bloatware in my opinion, the closest thing to Windows to be found on an Amiga :)
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3.1 here, with some carefully picked add-ons which make it more functional than 3.9 and yet faster. 3.9 is a piece of bloatware in my opinion, the closest thing to Windows to be found on an Amiga :)
WOW... the first person I've found that thinks the same about OS 3.9 as I do... :)
Cheers... Made my day that has... :)
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Kickstart 1.3 here on my Amiga 500.
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I pretty much use them all from 3.1 upwards at the moment. Currently, I'm using 4.1 most, but it's not a statistically accurate reflection of my usage.
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please delete
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I use 2.04 on my A600. But 99% of the time I use MorphOS, but neither that nor AROS were on the poll.
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Sorry but I'm in the habit of calling OS 3.0 & OS 3.1 the same thing as kickstart... :)
Reckon myself 3.0 will lead the way as a lot of folk never got round to upgrading the ROMS to 3.1... :)
Hmm... I am flabbergasted. If you treat Kickstart as the same thing as OS 3.0 & OS 3.1, then what option should you choose having ROM 3.1 and running OS 3.9 on it?
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Hmm... I am flabbergasted. If you treat Kickstart as the same thing as OS 3.0 & OS 3.1, then what option should you choose having ROM 3.1 and running OS 3.9 on it?
Well, AFAIK ROM 3.1 is patched during boot and it's seen by the system as Kickstart 3.9.
Varthall
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Well, AFAIK ROM 3.1 is patched during boot and it's seen by the system as Kickstart 3.9.
But what system are you using? Kickstart 3.9 or AmigaOS 3.9? I think the question was about the operational system. So the issue raised by Heiroglyph about 3.0 Kickstart and 3.1 Workbench option is clear that you can't mix them. OS 3.1 is OS 3.1 and it does not matter if it is on patched or non-patched ROM 3.0 or 3.1.
Just my 2 cents.
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I use 2.04 on my A600. But 99% of the time I use MorphOS, but neither that nor AROS were on the poll.
Yeah, noticed that. Perhaps the poll should have been entitled "Which version of AmigaOS do you use the most?" since that's what it appears to be asking. As it stands, I'm sure it's excluding a decent wedge of users here.
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The 3.0/3.1 thing was just a joke.
For years that's what I saw 99% of time on AGA systems. The ROM's were scarce but 3.1 would run with them, so people used it that way.
I'd still call it 3.1.
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I use 3.9 with BoingBags 1, 2, 3 , and 4. Then added some OS4.0 68k leftovers, and have made a lot of customizations and upgrades to make it even more usable.
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I like to get 3.9 running on anything that'll run it.
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3.9 with some patches. hate the icons though. actually pure look and content of 3.1 suits me best and is installed on other machines. just dont use them as frequently.
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No other choice, or AROS or MorhpOS options.
I use MorphOS the most
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OS 3.1 rules :-)
It only lacks the Reaction GUI and OS 3.5 icons: i really dislike softwares that make use of these, forgetting about OS 3.1.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - there's no reason for an OS3.9 setup to be more bloated than a 3.1 setup. You just have to tweak it a little, just like you do with 3.1 anyways. I run 3.9 on whatever I have, including Minimig where I really have to be carefull about what parts of OS3.9 I use, and revert to 3.5, 3.1 and aminet to fill in the gaps that are not 68000 compatible (like C:Makedir - what on earth could be 020+ optimized in C:Makedir?)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - there's no reason for an OS3.9 setup to be more bloated than a 3.1 setup. You just have to tweak it a little, just like you do with 3.1 anyways. I run 3.9 on whatever I have, including Minimig where I really have to be carefull about what parts of OS3.9 I use, and revert to 3.5, 3.1 and aminet to fill in the gaps that are not 68000 compatible (like C:Makedir - what on earth could be 020+ optimized in C:Makedir?)
Probably a compiler-generated addressing mode, 32-bit multiplication or something like that.
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3.1 and then Classic WB 3.1, 3.9 is like Cammy said, just slower.
I'm looking forward to 4.1 for classic Amiga's.
Edit: :laughing:my vote makes it a tie now between 3.1 and 3.9
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3.1 and then Classic WB 3.1, 3.9 is like Cammy said, just slower.
I'm looking forward to 4.1 for classic Amiga's.
Edit: :laughing:my vote makes it a tie now between 3.1 and 3.9
And do you actually think 4.1 for Classics is going to be faster than any of those?
I have a BlizzardPPC + Bvision and had to go back to 3.9 for better performance when 4.0 for Classics was released.
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And do you actually think 4.1 for Classics is going to be faster than any of those?
No, but nothing is for sure untill I have tried it and when some benchmarks pop up.
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Good point, lets wait and see.
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Just wondering what is the most popular Amiga OS used in the Amiga community, which OS do you use the most... :)
MorphOS here!
:-)
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Hmm... I am flabbergasted. If you treat Kickstart as the same thing as OS 3.0 & OS 3.1, then what option should you choose having ROM 3.1 and running OS 3.9 on it?
Not quite sure what you mean !!! :confused:
Although you can use the WB 3.1 disks with 3.0 Roms (be it with a few problems) I tried OS 3.9 a couple of times but gave up and went back to 3.5, to me 3.9 is 3.9 just like 3.1 is 3.1, you really need 3.1 Roms to run them both but if you were using 3.9 you wouldn't say you were using 3.1 just because the roms were 3.1 would you...
Hope you can understand what I mean here (cos I don't... :lol:)
Sorry to the MorphOS and Aros folks for leaving them out, just that not being a fan or user of either they kinda slipped my mind... :(
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For me it's 3.9!!!
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4.1 on my AmigaOne XE
3.5 on my A1200
2.1 on my A600 (but you left 2.1 off the options :( )
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4.1 on my AmigaOne XE
3.5 on my A1200
2.1 on my A600 (but you left 2.1 off the options :( )
Seems I left out quite a few options... :(
Look it was around 6 am when I started the thread, I hadn't had anymore than 3 hours sleep in the past 24 hours, have a bad head cold, a dose of the runs (after too many vindaloo's), it's been peeing down and blowing a gale here for the past few days, my kitchen window had blown open and the squirrels had got in and piddled all over the floor, I'd run out of coffee and my medication had worn off... :insane:
So apologies to everyone who feels left out and to the postman who delivered a package to me this morning, for me being a bit grumpy and ranting on at him like a crazed loon cos the package was soaking wet... :o
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amiga 3.1 cause lost my 3.5 cdrom dammit
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OS 3.1 rules :-)
It only lacks the Reaction GUI and OS 3.5 icons: i really dislike softwares that make use of these, forgetting about OS 3.1.
Hmm..OS 3.9 has large hard drive support, TCP stack, email, web browser, Action, updated multiview, updated dataypes, 24 bit printer support, cd file system and atapi support, built in dock, new icon information with drag an drop icon update, animated scrolling of icons within windows, correct aspect ratio of window's horizontal scroll bar. Probably a fair few other things that aren't visible on the surface.
You could do most of this stuff with 3rd party utilities, but its nice to have it all there for you when you boot.
Having said that I I use a 4 color 3.1 workbench and 3.1 ROM, flies. Eye candy no longer matters to me.
If you're using a 3.0 ROM with 3.1 I think its its worth getting the 3.1 ROM, seems more stable and screen re-draws seem faster.
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Sorry to the MorphOS and Aros folks for leaving them out, just that not being a fan or user of either they kinda slipped my mind... :(
It is not the first time you have neglected us and probably won't be the last, but your polls that do not include us have little meaning, since they leave out such a large percentage of the remaining Amiga community.
Also, it is very annoying that you repeat this pattern over and over again, just because of your personal preferences, which IIRC are for Classic Amiga computers only, yet you always seem to remember AmigaOS4.x, which is no more related to the old Classic Amiga hardware than MorphOS2.x is. In fact, MorphOS has been around for longer than AmigaOS4.x and had a free version for Classic Amiga computers with Phase5 PowerUp boards many years ago (10 I believe is the correct number).
If you are going to create this endless progression of polls here at Amiga.org, please try to make an attempt to include ALL of the members here, or think about moving such exclusive polls to Amigan.net instead.
Edit: Had I known that this thread was going to turn into an opinion of what members thought was the "Best" Amiga OS, or which Amiga OS does each voter use the most, instead of how it is literally worded "Which Amiga OS is used most?", I would boycot the poll completely, as the "best" Amiga OS IMHO, or the Amiga OS I use the most often, is not listed as one of the choices.
To me, that question means which Amiga OS is used the most by everyone in the world. Everyone is free to interpret it any way they like, but it lessens the validity of the result when people are voting with different perceptions of what the poll is asking. I mean really, how can 15 voters really think that AmigaOS4.1 is used more than the other Classic AmigaOS choices, unless they are thinking that the question is only for each user in their own homes, or which they think is the best Amiga OS for them?
There is enough division of this community from the past, please do not perpetuate it further by excluding half of it from your polls, or insulting us with your personal opinions on what "IS" and "IS NOT" an Amiga OS.
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It is not the first time you have neglected us and probably won't be the last, but your polls that do not include us have little meaning, since they leave out such a large percentage of the remaining Amiga community.
Also, it is very annoying that you repeat this pattern over and over again, just because of your personal preferences, which IIRC are for Classic Amiga computers only, yet you always seem to remember AmigaOS4.x, which is no more related to the old Classic Amiga hardware than MorphOS2.x is. In fact, MorphOS has been around for longer than AmigaOS4.x and had a free version for Classic Amiga computers with Phase5 PowerUp boards many years ago (10 I believe is the correct number).
If you are going to create this endless progression of polls here at Amiga.org, please try to make an attempt to include ALL of the members here, or think about moving such exclusive polls to Amigan.net instead.
The poll says AmigaOS..
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The poll says AmigaOS..
You mean like an OS that runs Amiga programs and games?
Of course you don't! That would be beyond your ability to reason and see the benefits of keeping what is left of the Amiga community together, instead of continuing to preach division and conflict (and jealousy).
How very sad for you!
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Another interesting question is: What OS did you use the most (total time since 1985).
To me this would be 1.3. I started with Kick&WB 1.2, but WB1.3 was already out when I got my RAM expansion. I didn´t upgrade to 2.04 until 1992 which makes it 5 years of daily usage for WB1.3. In 1995 I got my first LinuxPC and didn´t boot into Workbench that often anymore. So only 3 years for 2.04, 2.1 and 3.1 combined.
I am now in my second year of AmigaOS 4.1 and I hope it will be good for another three years. ;-)
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@ amigadave
First off, I didn't deliberately neglect you or anyone else, read the thread and you shall see my answers to that already.
If you find it annoying then sorry but what my own personal preferences and choices are have nothing whatsoever to do with you. If you don't like what I have to say or take part in polls that I post then just ignore them or start your own polls that you would feel suit your personal choices & opinions better. No one is forcing you to take part in them and no one is forcing you to read my posts. If I see a poll that if feel doesn't include or have an interest for my own choices or preferences then I simply don't take part in it, I certainly don't go whining to the polls creator that they left me out.
There is an option on this site to block or ignore what a particular person posts so perhaps you should put me on that list as others have done, then anything I have to say will not cause offense or upset you.
If other members wish to express their opinions on what they think is the best OS version then that is their own free choice and I'm not complaining that they do so and I'm certainly not responsible for what other members may post.
As for insulting you with my own personal opinions then that really is just pathetic to be perfectly honest with you, I may not like what your opinions are but I don't go on a rant telling you so. If I really did have an issue with you about something you had to say then I would have the decency to PM you about it first. As you chose to take this course of action I am simply responding in kind in this case.
As for taking my 'exclusive polls' elsewhere, let me make this perfectly clear to you, I don't take kindly to someone whom I don't even know telling me what to do in public and in such an offensive manner as you have chosen to do here, so if you would be so kind in future to take up any issues you have with me by PM then I can assure you you will receive from me the reply you deserve.
As for why you have chosen to do this I have no idea, but I consider myself a very reasonable and carefree type of person so if you wish to discuss this further in a more civil manner then feel free to PM me, if not then so be it. I wont be putting you on my ignore list but shall read your future posts but choose not respond to them in any way if this is the kind of silly & childish attitude which you have displayed here is all you have to say in future.
Yours Sincerely
Frank Spiers
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You mean like an OS that runs Amiga programs and games?
No I mean AmigaOS.
Of course you don't! That would be beyond your ability to reason and see the benefits of keeping what is left of the Amiga community together, instead of continuing to preach division and conflict (and jealousy).
How very sad for you!
Oh Lordy!
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It is not the first time you have neglected us and probably won't be the last, but your polls that do not include us have little meaning, since they leave out such a large percentage of the remaining Amiga community.
Also, it is very annoying that you repeat this pattern over and over again, just because of your personal preferences, which IIRC are for Classic Amiga computers only, yet you always seem to remember AmigaOS4.x, which is no more related to the old Classic Amiga hardware than MorphOS2.x is. In fact, MorphOS has been around for longer than AmigaOS4.x and had a free version for Classic Amiga computers with Phase5 PowerUp boards many years ago (10 I believe is the correct number).
If you are going to create this endless progression of polls here at Amiga.org, please try to make an attempt to include ALL of the members here, or think about moving such exclusive polls to Amigan.net instead.
Edit: Had I known that this thread was going to turn into an opinion of what members thought was the "Best" Amiga OS, or which Amiga OS does each voter use the most, instead of how it is literally worded "Which Amiga OS is used most?", I would boycot the poll completely, as the "best" Amiga OS IMHO, or the Amiga OS I use the most often, is not listed as one of the choices.
To me, that question means which Amiga OS is used the most by everyone in the world. Everyone is free to interpret it any way they like, but it lessens the validity of the result when people are voting with different perceptions of what the poll is asking. I mean really, how can 15 voters really think that AmigaOS4.1 is used more than the other Classic AmigaOS choices, unless they are thinking that the question is only for each user in their own homes, or which they think is the best Amiga OS for them?
There is enough division of this community from the past, please do not perpetuate it further by excluding half of it from your polls, or insulting us with your personal opinions on what "IS" and "IS NOT" an Amiga OS.
Fuck up :rolleyes:
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OS3.9 is winning, woohoo!
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I voted 3.9 in the end. Although it's not in most use right now it is certainly the one I use most over an extended period of time.
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I use them all depending what machine I use, but OS3.9 is used most often.
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1- OS4.1u2- Samflex
2- OS3.1, kick 3.1- A1200
3- OS1.3- A500
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@Franko
Depends on how you look at the question.
Current usage ... I use OS4.1 the most.
If I look at this question as which Amiga OS did I use most since 1985:
1st place goes to OS 3.1 on my A2000HD
2nd place would probably go to OS 1.3, the original OS on my A2000HD
3nd place goes to OS 4.0 on my MicroA1
4rd place goes to OS 4.1 on my MicroA1
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redfox
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@Franko
Depends on how you look at the question.
Current usage ... I use OS4.1 the most.
If I look at this question as which Amiga OS did I use most since 1985:
1st place goes to OS 3.1 on my A2000HD
2nd place would probably go to OS 1.3, the original OS on my A2000HD
3nd place goes to OS 4.0 on my MicroA1
4rd place goes to OS 4.1 on my MicroA1
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redfox
Never thought such a simple wee question could cause so much confusion or upset...:)
The way I meant the question to be was quite simply which amongst folk who answered the question is the OS system that you use on your Amiga the most. :)
Seems though it got a wee bit confused somewhere along the way, but you are asked when placing a poll to keep the title and options brief and are limited to 10 options. Now if the limit was raised to say around 200 options then I'm sure I could include everyone and their auntie in future polls... :)
(or maybe it's my Scottish accent that no-one can understand... :lol: )
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OS 3.9 and OS 4.1
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Amikit/AmigaOS3.x. Lately, I tinker more towards IcAROS on real hardware (laptop).
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@Franko
As a moderator, I can add MorphOS and AROS as options to the poll (since you've only used 8 of the 10 possible options), if you wish. It's your poll/thread, so your choice.
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I like to have different HD CF configurations, so I did a lateral slot for it on the Amiga. By now I "only" have 3, but all of them run under OS3.9:
-32Gb Transcend CF running Sys4Aga with OS3.9 BB4
-16Gb Sandisk CF running an Amikit conversion BB2 (lot of problems without graphic card, lots of things I like)
-16Gb Sandisk CF running ClassicWb OS39. Really nice
I have just thought now about the P96 ClassicWB. It looks great to be with Wb 3.1. Perhaps I will install it in a 4Gb Sandisk CF I've got, if it doesn't have support for big HD...
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@Franko
As a moderator, I can add MorphOS and AROS as options to the poll (since you've only used 8 of the 10 possible options), if you wish. It's your poll/thread, so your choice.
Wow... didn't realise you could do that, cheers Karlos... :)
Might be a wee bit too late now as the polls closed and I'd probably get more flack from folk who wanted to vote that way in the first place and who then chose something else...
If you'd care to change it then feel free to do so, maybe best just to consign this one to the archives though... :)
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Might be a wee bit too late now as the polls closed and I'd probably get more flack from folk who wanted to vote that way in the first place and who then chose something else...
It's nay bother, the poll can be extended to remain open for however long it needs. Can also fix that OS2.4 faux pas ;)
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Awe richt ren, go on then Karlos, make any changes necessary, just make sure you direct any flak to care of the twighlight zone... :lol:
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Options added, also noted that 2.1 was missing. Perhaps 1.x, 2.x would suffice as the first options as they are clearly a minority either way.
Right dudes, go for your lives...
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I think the poll should be closed, so 3.9 can stay at 40.68%!
Though of course something like 45.57 would be more appropriate.
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@tone007
Don't take this the wrong way, but has anybody ever told you that you look a bit like Seth Green?
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One person a few years ago, yes. No offense taken at all, but luckily I'm a good few inches taller than him.
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@ Karlos
Cheers, got me flak jacket on and taken a double dose of medication just in case... :lol:
@ Tone007
I was just wondering Tone, when you stand next to that lovely classic little Beetle of yours, does your head disappear... :lol:
(better retreat to me bunker now...) ;)
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I was just wondering Tone, when you stand next to that lovely classic little Beetle of yours, does your head disappear... :lol:
Nah, I took a shaver to the sides, now my hair is a very noticeable two tone.
..not that I've seen the Beetle in two weeks, it's still off getting a replacement engine.
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Nah, I took a shaver to the sides, now my hair is a very noticeable two tone.
..not that I've seen the Beetle in two weeks, it's still off getting a replacement engine.
What you replacing it with, 030, PPC or MiniMig... :)
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WarpEngine 4040!
Actually, just a plain old 1600DP like it had, only this one won't leave 6" diameter oil spills where I park it hopefully.
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Awe richt ren, go on then Karlos, make any changes necessary, just make sure you direct any flak to care of the twighlight zone... :lol:
What about OS 1.2 ? Well? Whinge whinge whinge. Blah blah blah...
whinge whinge whinge. Where's OS 1.2 ?
If you guys are going to put up polls you should at least ...
arrh too tired now.
I've never used 1.2 really. I had it on a A500 once, but replaced it with a 1.3. Still have 4 x 1.3 roms at hand. you never know...
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I boot 1.1 all day long!
..well, when it's the only disk I can lay my hands on while testing dirty old A500s..
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I was just wondering Tone, when you stand next to that lovely classic little Beetle of yours, does your head disappear... :lol:
Speaking of the Beetle and disappearing, some days I go around looking so ridiculous the Beetle disappears behind me!
(http://cbmvax.com/3.jpg)
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Separated at Birth... Tone007 & Eddie Izzard... :)
Tone & Eddie meet up for the first time... :)
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/ToneEddieIzzard01-1-1.jpg)
Sorry Tone007... Couldn't resist that one... :roflmao:
(Gawd, how many budding musicians do we have here on amiga.org... :))
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Now I haven't heard Eddie Izzard before, and I just don't see it.
(Gawd, how many budding musicians do we have here on amiga.org... :))
I'm too old to be a budding musician, by now I'm just mediocre!
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AmigaOS? pfft. Sorry.
On the other hand, I DO use Workbench 1.3.3 the most. :P
Well, on the A500. I actually prefer it.
On the V4000 (UAE pretending to be an A4000/040)....
I use 3.9. I'd use 3.1, but no disks :(
And which do I prefer? Honestly... Workbench 1.3. The color scheme is easier on the eyes, I like the icons, and unlike 2.x/3.x, the icons are always proportional. (But then again, afaik, you're stuck with one screenmode in Workbench, so go figure.) I've never seen much reason to upgrade. 3.9 is used for little more than preparing disk images to send over...
PS: My first thought when looking at Tone007's avatar: "Seth Green owns an Amiga???" Looks like I'm not the only one. xD
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@Franko
I use OS4.1 the most. :)
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redfox
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Separated at Birth... Tone007 & Eddie Izzard... :)
Tone & Eddie meet up for the first time... :)
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/ToneEddieIzzard01-1-1.jpg)
Sorry Tone007... Couldn't resist that one... :roflmao:
(Gawd, how many budding musicians do we have here on amiga.org... :))
There are one or two of us who have had music careers :)
honestly I use AROS more than another other OS now... though 3.0 gets fired up from time to time to get stuff off my A1200's HD... and 1.3 is run a couple of times a year just to remind me of proper computing.
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Separated at Birth... Tone007 & Eddie Izzard... :)
Tone & Eddie meet up for the first time... :)
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/ToneEddieIzzard01-1-1.jpg)
Sorry Tone007... Couldn't resist that one... :roflmao:
(Gawd, how many budding musicians do we have here on amiga.org... :))
More Derrin Brown than Eddie Izzard I thought...
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I'm using 3.5 with AmiKit on my Windows machine, and 1.3 on my trusty old A1000 (usually 1.3.3).
My A2000 with 3.1 is in storage at the moment, so that is not being used.
I actually like 3.9 the most, but I can't afford it....
Is that confusing enough for keeping within the "classic" OSes?
I too, play music although I am not in a band these days. Used to play Bluegrass and Rock (at different times, of course)
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Speaking of the Beetle and disappearing, some days I go around looking so ridiculous the Beetle disappears behind me!
Wow..
Funny, I had that same Yamaha keyboard back in the day...
(Never learned to play anything on it; or any keyboard actually..)
Wasn't the demo song on that keyboard, "Last Christmas" by Wham?
I got it with the intention of hooking it up to my Amiga, as that keyboard had MIDI!
But, as I never got around to getting the MIDI interface for the Amiga, that didn't go as planned.. ;-)
desiv
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\Wasn't the demo song on that keyboard, "Last Christmas" by Wham?
Last Christmas is indeed the song. It's a fun little keyboard.
I'LL GIVE IT TO SOMEONE SPECIALLL.
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More Derrin Brown than Eddie Izzard I thought...
I'd have to agree.
GIVE ME CELEBRITIES, I WILL CUT THEM UP AND BUILD MYSELF OUT OF THEM.
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I'd have to agree.
GIVE ME CELEBRITIES, I WILL CUT THEM UP AND BUILD MYSELF OUT OF THEM.
I agree with Tension about the Derrin Brown, just when I came across the Eddie Izzard pic with that haircut, beard and tash Tone007 spang to mind...:)
(wonder what other celebs we can find to donate to Tone's new project... :lol:)
On a side note, just before I logged in I was looking around ebay and spotted an old iMacG5 going for £250, dunno why but I ended up bidding on it and got it for £325 + £25 delivery, then I noticed the seller only live 7 miles away from me, crazy thing is he won't let me pick it up and insists on posting it and I should get it by Thursday, Gawd I could be their and back in less than 20 minutes, crazy or what... :)
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Argh. That's a lot of money to spend on Motorola architecture, you could get a nice Intel Mac for less and do more.
Edit: read too fast, didn't realize you'd won it already. Best of luck!
The G5 iMacs are still nice machines.
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There are one or two of us who have had music careers :)
If that's really you in the pic, then you must have been in one of those 80's bands like The Human league, ABC, or Spandau Ballet, I'll wager... :)
(or perhaps the pics to throw us off the trail and your were in The Wurzels instead... :roflmao:)
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Argh. That's a lot of money to spend on Motorola architecture, you could get a nice Intel Mac for less and do more.
Edit: read too fast, didn't realize you'd won it already. Best of luck!
The G5 iMacs are still nice machines.
The intel ones sell for well over £500 here on ebay and I've tried the one I've just bought before and it runs a hell of a lot faster than this G4 (you can actually watch youtube vids properly on it)... :)
My money's burning a hole in my pocket right now so I just had to buy something to keep me amused... :)
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G5 does have enough horsepower for today's stuff.
I just have a hard time spending money on anything that isn't Intel these days, since MacOS went x86 and then there's all the x86 Linux and of course good old reliable Windows* to run.
*Hi, I'm a Microsoft Certified Professional (the enemy,) nice to meet you!
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If that's really you in the pic, then you must have been in one of those 80's bands like The Human league, ABC, or Spandau Ballet, I'll wager... :)
Nah, all of those guys have lost their hair already!
(At least Phil Oakey sure did.)
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I reckon it should suit me, as I really only want it to be able to access the net more quickly than what this G4 can do, and the little play around I had with the last G5 I tried things like iDVD and iMovie ran at useable speeds on it. :)
I can put the G4 on ebay and get around £250 -to £280 for it quite easily as they very rarely go for much less than that here... :)
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I can put the G4 on ebay and get around £250 -to £280 for it quite easily as they very rarely go for much less than that here... :)
Well, crap. Let me buy them for $100 here all day and send them over that way. I'm no stranger to international shipping!
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Well, crap. Let me buy them for $100 here all day and send them over that way. I'm no stranger to international shipping!
Might be a nice little earner if you can get them for that price, seems people over here (like me) pay some crazy prices for stuff on ebay... :)
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Ere, Tone007, you seem to know quite a bit about macs, if I could pick your brain for a minute with a quick question... :)
What would be the best & quickest way to transfer my data from the G4 to the G5 when I get it, I was wondering if I could connect them up with a firewire cable and do it that way... :)
Cheers
Franko
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... and it runs a hell of a lot faster than this G4 (you can actually watch youtube vids properly on it)... :)
Yea. I told a mate to buy a mac-mini that was for sale locally, suggesting that it would be good to watch iPlayer and YouTube on, and imagine the shame of it... IMAGINE THE SHAME!!!!
How dreadfully embarrasing. Last time I recommend anything Mac.
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If that's really you in the pic, then you must have been in one of those 80's bands like The Human league, ABC, or Spandau Ballet, I'll wager... :)
(or perhaps the pics to throw us off the trail and your were in The Wurzels instead... :roflmao:)
That is me in the pic... and I fear you may be closer than you think ;)
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Ere, Tone007, you seem to know quite a bit about macs, if I could pick your brain for a minute with a quick question... :)
What would be the best & quickest way to transfer my data from the G4 to the G5 when I get it, I was wondering if I could connect them up with a firewire cable and do it that way... :)
Cheers
Franko
With a Mac it is simple... Boot the G4 in Target mode (with a firewire between them), and when you boot the install disk (on the new machine) select to transfer the accounts across. I have a brand new MacBook here where the user accounts are over 4 years old and originally set up on my old 12" PowerBook and have been transferred this way 5 times now!!!
In all seriousness, though should really think about an intel mac... the PPC ones are really long in the tooth now.
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That is me in the pic... and I fear you may be closer than you think ;)
Wow... a real live member of the Wurzels is amongst us, give us a quick chorus of "I've Got A Brand New Combine Harvester"... :lol:
Can I have your autograph pleeeaase... (luved the Wurzels I did)
Joking aside, gonna have to do a bit of detective work here and find out the REAL band you were in, I have a couple of ideas but need to double check first... ;)
PS: Thanks for the info on the Mac, I'll see how it works out sell the G4 and if I decide to sell the G5 I can easily get my money back on it and buy an intel one instead... :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIFwlkV6ANk
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulders of Orion . I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the...."
Where was that near again.. hmm..
Wow.. this seems pretty unrelated... I must be confused, or google has led me astray....
desiv
p.s. D'oh!! Just a bit too late.. Oh well..
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That is me in the pic... and I fear you may be closer than you think ;)
Well you're obviously a fan of The Cure...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIFwlkV6ANk
Nah, your taking the P here.... aren't you... :confused:
If not then I apologise, I really liked that very professional and polished piece of work, gonna have to start adding your stuff to my music collection... :)
@ Desiv
I don't think anything in this thread is related anymore, but what the hell, it's kinda interesting...
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I'm using AmigaOS 3.9 on my main A1200, AmigaOS 3.1 on my second A1200 and AmigaOS 2.1 on my A600. I do also have a A500 in storage on which I used a highly modified WB2.04 floppy in the past.
I kind of like the idea of using all versions of AmigaOS that I have used in the past.
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Lol! My old band we had an album out on Universal Records a few years back... we were doing to sort of Electronic Rock music that was popular for a while... our stuff is still available via iTunes if not in your local HMV anymore :)
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Well you're obviously a fan of The Cure...
Actually yeah :) Though I'm a synth guy, so I'm more Depeche Mode!
-Edit- my nickname is actually a clue!
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Actually yeah :) Though I'm a synth guy, so I'm more Depeche Mode!
-Edit- my nickname is actually a clue!
A Little Piece Of You - Cool tune!! Nice work!
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@ Desiv -I don't think anything in this thread is related anymore, but what the hell, it's kinda interesting...
And the rest of that quote from the movie Blade Runner is:
"I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate."
Any band named after a Blade Runner ref is a great start..
And Depeche inspired/influenced on top of that?? :)
desiv
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Actually yeah :) Though I'm a synth guy, so I'm more Depeche Mode!
-Edit- my nickname is actually a clue!
Depeche Mode was one of the bands I was thinking you may have been in and thought that was an old photo, but I couldn't spot you in any of the pics when I googled them... :)
Still now we know the answer, can I still get your autograph, might be worth a few bob on ebay one day :lol:
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And the rest of that quote from the movie Blade Runner is:
"I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate."
Any band named after a Blade Runner ref is a great start..
And Depeche inspired/influenced on top of that?? :)
desiv
Yeah, spotted the Blade Runner quote straight away, best version was the Directors Cut though... :)
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On a side note, just before I logged in I was looking around ebay and spotted an old iMacG5 going for £250, dunno why but I ended up bidding on it and got it for £325 + £25 delivery, then I noticed the seller only live 7 miles away from me, crazy thing is he won't let me pick it up and insists on posting it and I should get it by Thursday, Gawd I could be their and back in less than 20 minutes, crazy or what... :)
@Franko,
That sounds like a lot of money for a G5 iMac ($565 US, what size and speed is it), but of course it depends on what the prices for such computers usually sell for in your area. For that amount of money, I could get a Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, or even a Quad Core, Dual 2.5GHz G5 last generation PCI-e PowerMac (or a Dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac and a 20" to 23" LCD wide-screen monitor too, with money left over).
If VAT or other import taxes were not so expensive to ship computers from the USA to the UK and EU, it would be worth the trouble to get them from here and ship them over the Atlantic. Anyone want to go into partnership of selling of old computers in the UK and EU? I will be the source and responsible for finding what customers want here in the States, Canada, or Mexico and then ship them to you, or directly to the customer's address. There was a month or two where the prices for G4 and G5 PowerMacs had fallen to really low prices just a few weeks ago, but now prices seem to have crept back up a bit, but not too much and certainly not nearly as much as the amount Franko just spent on his G5 iMac (sorry, don't mean to run it in). Six weeks ago I could have purchased a Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac w/2-4gb RAM & 250-500gb hdd capacity for about $390 to $475, a top of the G5 range Quad Core, Dual 2.5GHz G5 PowerMac w/PCI-e slots & 2-8gb RAM for about $450 to $575 and Dual 1.25GHz, or 1.42GHz G4 PowerMacs for about $75 to $125, or less. If you can find dead PPC Mac computers that you want over there that still have nice cases and other peripherals, I could get just the motherboards and CPU units here and save a lot on cheaper shipping costs. Then I would part out the rest of the computer here, the heavy parts that don't make sense to ship overseas.
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@ amigadave
First off, I didn't deliberately neglect you or anyone else, read the thread and you shall see my answers to that already.
If you find it annoying then sorry but what my own personal preferences and choices are have nothing whatsoever to do with you. If you don't like what I have to say or take part in polls that I post then just ignore them or start your own polls that you would feel suit your personal choices & opinions better. No one is forcing you to take part in them and no one is forcing you to read my posts. If I see a poll that if feel doesn't include or have an interest for my own choices or preferences then I simply don't take part in it, I certainly don't go whining to the polls creator that they left me out.
There is an option on this site to block or ignore what a particular person posts so perhaps you should put me on that list as others have done, then anything I have to say will not cause offense or upset you.
If other members wish to express their opinions on what they think is the best OS version then that is their own free choice and I'm not complaining that they do so and I'm certainly not responsible for what other members may post.
As for insulting you with my own personal opinions then that really is just pathetic to be perfectly honest with you, I may not like what your opinions are but I don't go on a rant telling you so. If I really did have an issue with you about something you had to say then I would have the decency to PM you about it first. As you chose to take this course of action I am simply responding in kind in this case.
As for taking my 'exclusive polls' elsewhere, let me make this perfectly clear to you, I don't take kindly to someone whom I don't even know telling me what to do in public and in such an offensive manner as you have chosen to do here, so if you would be so kind in future to take up any issues you have with me by PM then I can assure you you will receive from me the reply you deserve.
As for why you have chosen to do this I have no idea, but I consider myself a very reasonable and carefree type of person so if you wish to discuss this further in a more civil manner then feel free to PM me, if not then so be it. I wont be putting you on my ignore list but shall read your future posts but choose not respond to them in any way if this is the kind of silly & childish attitude which you have displayed here is all you have to say in future.
Yours Sincerely
Frank Spiers
Replied to via PMail, as requested.
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So, AROS is exactly twice as popular as MorphOS? :)
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So, AROS is exactly twice as popular as MorphOS? :)
I guess OS4.1 is 22 times as popular as MorphOS...somehow I doubt the accuracy of those numbers ;)
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SHOCK... are you guys trying to say this poll was rigged, It kinda reminds me of the results when George W Bush and his bother Jeb made an erm... little discrepancy with his second term results... :eek:
But of course this poll is more important than electing a president... :D
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@ amigadave
It's an iMacG5 PPC iSight 2.1Ghz 20" model as I got for £325 that's the best deal I've seen in months on ebay, just wish I could have collected it as the seller only lives 7 miles away but he said no and it's costing me another £25 shipping and I have to wait till Thurday to get it, crazy or what... :)
here's a link to the current ones on ebay
UK Ebay Prices For iMacs (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A3444&rt=nc&_nkw=imac+g5+20&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=1&_sc=1)
If you keep your eye on them you'll see the silly prices they go for over here and it's always within the last 15 minutes of the sale that thing go mad.
But thats the problem here for folk like myself, if you really want it it's going to cost you... :(
(Wish I could get hold of them at the prices you have in the States, could be even richer than I already am... :) )
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@ amigadave
It's an iMacG5 PPC iSight 2.1Ghz 20" model as I got for £325 that's the best deal I've seen in months on ebay, just wish I could have collected it as the seller only lives 7 miles away but he said no and it's costing me another £25 shipping and I have to wait till Thurday to get it, crazy or what... :)
here's a link to the current ones on ebay
UK Ebay Prices For iMacs (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A3444&rt=nc&_nkw=imac+g5+20&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=1&_sc=1)
If you keep your eye on them you'll see the silly prices they go for over here and it's always within the last 15 minutes of the sale that thing go mad.
But thats the problem here for folk like myself, if you really want it it's going to cost you... :(
(Wish I could get hold of them at the prices you have in the States, could be even richer than I already am... :) )
I can only sympathize with you and agree that if you want something and don't want to wait while looking around for better prices, eBay will get you where it hurts (the wallet) every time. The best price I could find here for the same computer as yours on eBay was about $350 to $420. Shipping is expensive due to the size and weight of such computers, so buying here and sending it there is not really an option for these models, but if you ever need parts for yours, that is another story.
That is a nice computer for web browsing, Skype calls, iChat with family and friends, listening to music and watching movies/dvd's. When my 80+ year old Dad wanted a new computer a couple of years ago, my sisters and I talked him into buying a used 17-inch G5 iMac from eBay USA, instead of buying a new eMachine with no monitor or webcam, for about the same price. He loves it and is very happy with the switch from Windows98 to MacOSX. You will now have a much better iMac than your 800MHz G4 iMac. Since one sister lives near Auckland, NZ, my Dad likes using the iSight and iChat to see and talk to her from time to time.
If yours is the model I think it is, it should have an ATI X600 graphics card, which gives you a better chance than models with NVidia graphics cards, for a possibility of MorphOS2.x being ported to it some day in the distant future (just in case you want to see what it looks and feels like, the demo is always free, but time limited to 30 minutes before a reboot is needed to give you full speed again). One drawback of getting the G5 model of iMac, instead of the newer Intel Core2Duo models is that the Intel models run WinUAE and Amiga emulation much better than the G5 and E-UAE.
Lastly, I am usually very wary of eBay sellers that live so close by, but still refuse to allow you to pick up your won auctions in person. It can be nothing more sinister than the seller not wanting to bother with trying to arrange a time to meet with you, or the seller has had bad luck in the past where the buyer changes his/her mind after seeing the item in person, or worst case, the G5 iMac is in bad physical condition (or does not work at all) and the seller does not want you to know where he/she lives after the sale, so you can't bother him/her afterward and try to get a refund, or some kind of compensation to resolve a less than perfect, or less than described item. Hopefully you won't have any such problem, but I know how you feel when the seller won't allow you to pick up your item, no matter how close you are to them and you are forced to pay the shipping. Another reason that some sellers will not allow local pick up of your won auction item is because they have added a few pound/dollars/euros to the shipping cost to pay them for their time to box it up and take it to the shipping company and they might not want to lose that few extra dollars/pounds/euros because they did not get as much from the auction as they would have liked to get.
Good luck with your new computer purchase. Now what are you going to do with that G4 iMac 800MHz? It has a very unique case and monitor design, some hate it and others love it. Too bad it could not run MorphOS2.x for you due to the graphics card inside it as well as other drivers probably. 800MHz G4 is plenty fast for MorphOS2.6 and you could have gotten some good use from it for a few more years.
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Wow... didn't realise you could do that, cheers Karlos... :)
Might be a wee bit too late now as the polls closed and I'd probably get more flack from folk who wanted to vote that way in the first place and who then chose something else...
If you'd care to change it then feel free to do so, maybe best just to consign this one to the archives though... :)
Now there is problem that I already voted AmigaOS 1.3 and I can not change my vote... not big deal tho but the original poll was more useful. When it comes to the original AmigaOS I am using 1.3 only.
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@itix
Piru voted for 3.1, but it's probably a fair assumption that you both use MorphOS more. Just mentally subtract 1 from 1.3 and 1 more from 3.1 and add them to the MorphOS option :)
If you do that, it doesn't change 3.9 as first place, in fact, it increases it's lead over 3.1
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Piru voted for 3.1, but it's probably a fair assumption that you both use MorphOS more. Just mentally subtract 1 from 1.3 and 1 more from 3.1 and add them to the MorphOS option
No it really isn't the same thing. The original poll was about AmigaOS. The option for MorphOS and AROS were added later on. I really wonder what use is a poll that has options added after the fact? The poll result is now useless as there is no way of see only the results before and after the new options.
The correct way to handle situation like this would be to have a new vote with title "Which Amigoid OS is Used Most", and to have the correct options to begin with.
Even then, it would likely get dismissed by most who already voted in the first poll ("didn't I already vote in that poll?").
So whose great idea was it to modify the poll anyway? Well done, you made a mess out of it.
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So whose great idea was it to modify the poll anyway? Well done, you made a mess out of it.
That'd be me actually :o
I figured it wasn't such a big deal anyway. Does anybody take these things that seriously?
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Well im guessing Piru might given his vested interest in MorphOS. The poll does make it look like very few poeple are using MorphOS.
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Well... my vote would need to be changed as well, so subtract one more from 3.1 and add one to MorphOS....
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Well im guessing Piru might given his vested interest in MorphOS. The poll does make it look like very few poeple are using MorphOS.
Seriously, I doubt anybody really cares that much. Aside from the people that complained at the start, which is why the additional options were added. It's an ad-hoc poll on a forum, not a piece of market research. It was never going to be genuinely indicative of anything anyway.
Even if we moved all the known MOS users that have voted for other versions to the MorphOS column, 3.9 would still be far and away in the lead.
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Still... I don't really appreciate to have my vote in a poll I didn't vote for.
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Seriously, I doubt anybody really cares that much. Aside from the people that complained at the start, which is why the additional options were added. It's an ad-hoc poll on a forum, not a piece of market research. It was never going to be genuinely indicative of anything anyway.
Even if we moved all the known MOS users that have voted for other versions to the MorphOS column, 3.9 would still be far and away in the lead.
I personally couldn't give a mutts nuts
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Still... I don't really appreciate to have my vote in a poll I didn't vote for.
Sounds like someone voted just for the hell of it, even though their ideal option wasn't listed!
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I didn't bother to vote until there was an AROS option, since I use (or rather test) AROS far more than the other options :)
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Ok, for all those people that are bothered that the poll was changed to include options they may have otherwise voted for and wish to have their votes recast, I have 2 options:
1) I make the poll anonymous so the inconsistency between names and counts is abrogated, users send me a PM to say what they would have voted for and I reassign their votes accordingly. It isn't voting in a new president, so a Bush style Florida vote remix is fine by me :lol:
2) I close the thread and open a new one with all the options already available and you can all cast your votes again.
Take your pick.
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I didn't bother to vote until there was an AROS option, since I use (or rather test) AROS far more than the other options :)
This is exactly what I would have done, under the same circumstances.
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This is exactly what I would have done, under the same circumstances.
To be honest I had difficulty choosing between 1.3 and 3.0... I use both so infrequently now :(
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3.1 mainly here. Really enjoy its speed compared to 3.9, although like Cammy, I do have a 3.9 partition I rarely use on my 25mhz 030 machine. 1.3 on the A1000 and 3.1 on both the A2000 and A3000.
I'd like to get MorphOS back on a real machine (a nice Mac for instance). Had the Efika and it was "fun" for a few minutes, but its RAM limitation kept me from taking the machine seriously at all.
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I didnt bother voting until new options were added. Why would you ?
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Sounds like someone voted just for the hell of it, even though their ideal option wasn't listed!
This is a different poll, but I'm not allowed to change my vote with the new options added. (In case you didn't notice, the new options are not Amiga OS)
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I didn't bother to vote until there was an AROS option, since I use (or rather test) AROS far more than the other options :)
Ditto, I voted for MorphOS when it was added as it's what I'm currently using the most due to having two old Macs to put it on.
Now that AROS 68k is getting some long deserved loving if I was asked the same question in a couple of weeks my answer might be different.
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I didnt bother voting until new options were added. Why would you ?
Perhaps he uses 3.9 mostly from the list of Amiga OS's first given to choose from, but now MOS has been added he has to change his vote as he uses MOS even more than he uses 3.9.
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This is a different poll, but I'm not allowed to change my vote with the new options added. (In case you didn't notice, the new options are not Amiga OS)
See post 128.
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I guess, despite all the changes in the poll, there is one conclusion to be drawn:
Nobody voted for AmigaOS 4.0, so it means that OS4 on Classics sucks bigtime compared to older OSes.
I wonder if this says anything about the viability of the forthcoming OS4.1 for Classics?
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I guess, despite all the changes in the poll, there is one conclusion to be drawn:
Nobody voted for AmigaOS 4.0, so it means that OS4 on Classics sucks bigtime compared to older OSes.
I wonder if this says anything about the viability of the forthcoming OS4.1 for Classics?
Let's add MorphOS 1.4.5 to the list of options eh? ;)
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That'd be me actually :o
I figured it wasn't such a big deal anyway. Does anybody take these things that seriously?
I doubt that this poll reflects anything meaningful, if that's what you mean Karlos.
How about a poll on which OS posters use as a primary OS?
AOS4, AROS and MorphOS numbers would have to be higher with that, but you'd probably have to add Windows, Mac OS, asnd Linux options for many of those who post here that don't use an Amiga related OS on their primary system.
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@Karlos
Thanks
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I guess, despite all the changes in the poll, there is one conclusion to be drawn:
Nobody voted for AmigaOS 4.0, so it means that OS4 on Classics sucks bigtime compared to older OSes.
I wonder if this says anything about the viability of the forthcoming OS4.1 for Classics?
Ok, for all those people that are bothered that the poll was changed to include options they may have otherwise voted for and wish to have their votes recast, I have 2 options:
1) I make the poll anonymous so the inconsistency between names and counts is abrogated, users send me a PM to say what they would have voted for and I reassign their votes accordingly. It isn't voting in a new president, so a Bush style Florida vote remix is fine by me :lol:
2) I close the thread and open a new one with all the options already available and you can all cast your votes again.
Take your pick.
Number 2 but there better be pancakes!
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Ok, two votes have been recounted, consequently the poll is now also anonymous.
Anybody else? Send me a PM...
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Let's add MorphOS 1.4.5 to the list of options eh? ;)
I'm afraid there's no room. A poll has a maximum of 10 options and they are all used up.
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I'm afraid there's no room. A poll has a maximum of 10 options and they are all used up.
It's a conspiracy I tell you!
I'm going to start a new forum called amigaexodusnumberthree.net in protest! ;)
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COR Blimey... :eek: I nodded of for a few hours more than usual and come back to find all hell's broken loose... :whack:
I just hope that flak jacket your wearing Karlos is armour piercing shell proof as well as the bog standard bullet proof type... :uzi:
C'mon folks , hold the bus, whoa , stop getting you knickers in a twist, take a chill pill, pass the valium, have a nice cup of tea & a chocky biccie... :)
It's only a wee silly poll started by a nosey bugger (me) who was just trying to get a rough idea of which OS was generally the most popular amongst the users here.
It's not as if this was a government election being held in Red China where if you did or didn't vote the outcome would always be the same, also your not likely to get life or disappear if you didn't vote or the way you did vote was not liked by the party leadership, erm... at least I hope not... :nervous:
There are more important questions in life to be answered and taken more seriously, like Why is their always a sock missing every time I do a wash or Why do old pensioners smell so bad.... :D
Love, Peace, Harmony, Chill Man... :afro:
(Gawd... and my shrink say's Im mad... :rolleyes:)
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Why is their always a sock missing every time I do a wash)
Bloodline????????
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Bloodline????????
:roflmao: I was just waiting for someone to say that. I was almost worried it was going to have to be me :D
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Remember, a sock in the hand is worth two in the wash.
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Reckon this is the best way to end this poll... :)
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:roflmao: I was just waiting for someone to say that. I was almost worried it was going to have to be me :D
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Remember, a sock in the hand is worth two in the wash.
And a w**k in a sock is worth two on a bus!
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And a w**k in a sock is worth two on a bus!
And a w**k in a bush is worth two in a sock...
Wow! AROS has 3 users!
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I've got lots of old single socks if anyone want's them... :) (free to a good home... freshly washed...) :)
(this thread has gone to pieces... just noticed someone's nicked me meds... couple of likely suspects just above methinks... ;))
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And a w**k in a bush is worth two in a sock...
Wow! AROS has 3 users!
looooooooooooool!!!! :)
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I've got lots of old single socks if anyone want's them... :) (free to a good home... freshly washed...) :)
(this thread has gone to pieces... just noticed someone's nicked me meds... couple of likely suspects just above methinks... ;))
Oh I've got my own supply mate, no need to steal em! ;)
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Frankly, I'd be scared to mix whatever meds Franko's taking with the ones my Dr's are already giving me. ;)
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looooooooooooool!!!! :)
Actually I'm surprised there are as many as three... Most AROS users are too busy using their systems to waste time voting in some stupid poll ;)
Ok, 3... that's Me, ClusterUK and someone else... Hmmm... :)
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I guess, despite all the changes in the poll, there is one conclusion to be drawn:
Nobody voted for AmigaOS 4.0, so it means that OS4 on Classics sucks bigtime compared to older OSes.
I wonder if this says anything about the viability of the forthcoming OS4.1 for Classics?
OS 4.0 was Amiga's 'Vista moment'.
4.1 was the real deal.
(Apparently)
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Actually I'm surprised there are as many as three... Most AROS users are too busy using their systems to waste time voting in some stupid poll ;)
Ok, 3... that's Me, ClusterUK and someone else... Hmmm... :)
Its a tossup 3.1, or aros, I play alot of old games, I voted 3.1 though.
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Think I've found a potential market for those of you with one odd sock collections... :lol:
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@ Iggy
Not sure what meds I take anymore (too many to count and I can't even pronounce the names...) I just follow the docs advice and "keep taking the tablets"... :)
(erm... what was this thread all about again... :confused:)
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@ Iggy
Not sure what meds I take anymore (too many to count and I can't even pronounce the names...) I just follow the docs advice and "keep taking the tablets"... :)
(erm... what was this thread all about again... :confused:)
Who needs meds when you've got Bucky? ;)
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Who needs meds when you've got Bucky? ;)
Even the mention of the word makes me shudder. That stuff is big over here as well.
Messy messy messy.
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Being 100% tea-total, I can only say when you see the nasty effects that the Bucky has on some folk, the stuff should be banned... :(
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Being 100% tea-total, I can only say when you see the nasty effects that the Bucky has on some folk, the stuff should be banned... :(
I'm a heavy drinker... I have no idea what ¨bucky¨ is...
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Being 100% tea-total, I can only say when you see the nasty effects that the Bucky has on some folk, the stuff should be banned... :(
Now you're talking my language! :)
The negative effects of alcohol far outweigh any positive effects it may posses.
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I'm a heavy drinker... I have no idea what ¨bucky¨ is...
KennyR's fave tipple IIRC. ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8462042.stm
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I'm a heavy drinker... I have no idea what ¨bucky¨ is...
It's what the neds (hoodies I think they're called these days) drink, it makes the little shites even more violent and nasty than they already are...
Suppose the good thing about it is, if they drink enough it'll rot their livers more quickly and we can be rid of the the nasty little tossers... :)
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KennyR's fave tipple IIRC. ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8462042.stm
Ahh yup, I know the stuff... that's not the type of wine I drink :)
Oh, KennyR... I do miss him :(
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Oh, KennyR... I do miss him :(
What became of him?
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KennyR... Who he... :confused:
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KennyR... Who he... :confused:
Even after he stopped posting... it still took me years to beat his post score!
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Even after he stopped posting... it still took me years to beat his post score!
I must have at least 4000-odd posts on my old chemical named account, so even with that combined figure you're still well past me! :)
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At the current rate, Franko is set to wipe the floor with all of us!! Like China I suppose.
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What became of him?
IIRC he had a falling out with Wayne over (what Kenny claimed to be) untrue accusations of being a paid Genesi troll, so he just stopped posting here.
This was like 2003 or even earlier I think.
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IIRC he had a falling out with Wayne over (what Kenny claimed to be) untrue accusations of being a paid Genesi troll, so he just stopped posting here.
This was like 2003 or even earlier I think.
Being paid for being a troll... What a job!!
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Being paid for being a troll... What a job!!
Indeed, I gladly do it for free! ;)
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Even after he stopped posting... it still took me years to beat his post score!
Likewise. And he's still right there in the top few :)
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At the current rate, Franko is set to wipe the floor with all of us!! Like China I suppose.
Just wait till I get that new G5 on Thursday, should be a faster browser and faster net connection, gonna beat Karlos & Bloodline's high scores even if it kills me... :roflmao:
(PS: @ karlos... what's happened to my little teddy bears paw (medal) it's been nicked...)
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IIRC he had a falling out with Wayne over (what Kenny claimed to be) untrue accusations of being a paid Genesi troll, so he just stopped posting here.
This was like 2003 or even earlier I think.
Holy crap... time has passed by much too quickly for my tastes... :(
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Holy crap... time has passed by much too quickly for my tastes... :(
What have your testes got against time travel?
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Just wait till I get that new G5 on Thursday, should be a faster browser and faster net connection, gonna beat Karlos & Bloodline's high scores even if it kills me... :roflmao:
(PS: @ karlos... what's happened to my little teddy bears paw (medal) it's been nicked...)
Franko,
What have you got against MorphOS compatible Macs?
Your G4 wasn't a supported model and now you're buying a G5 model that isn't likely to be supported in the future.
Damn it man, you're ruining my sense of the universe scheme of things!
How can we prove to you the obvious superiority of MOS if you keep buying Macs that you can't run the OS on?
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Franko,
What have you got against MorphOS compatible Macs?
Your G4 wasn't a supported model and now you're buying a G5 model that isn't likely to be supported in the future.
Damn it man, you're ruining my sense of the universe scheme of things!
How can we prove to you the obvious superiority of MOS if you keep buying Macs that you can't run the OS on?
Ah didnae ken rat did ah... :(
Fraid 20 odd years sitting here on me jack jones surrounded by nothing but Amigas & 13 squirrels, I've not kept up to date with the world of modern computers... :(
I know even less about Macs than I do about MorphOS, I'll just need to go back on ebay and find something better then... (seen a nice ZXspectrum going cheap, think that'll do ? ) :)
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Ah didnae ken rat did ah... :(
Fraid 20 odd years sitting here on me jack jones surrounded by nothing but Amigas & 13 squirrels, I've not kept up to date with the world of modern computers... :(
I know even less about Macs than I do about MorphOS, I'll just need to go back on ebay and find something better then... (seen a nice ZXspectrum going cheap, think that'll do ? ) :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Apple-MAC-G4-QUICKSILVER-800Mhz-1Gb-40Gb-DVD-RW-OS-X-/300488472272?pt=UK_Computing_Apple_Desktops_CV&hash=item45f68236d0
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Ah didnae ken rat did ah... :(
Fraid 20 odd years sitting here on me jack jones surrounded by nothing but Amigas & 13 squirrels, I've not kept up to date with the world of modern computers... :(
I know even less about Macs than I do about MorphOS, I'll just need to go back on ebay and find something better then... (seen a nice ZXspectrum going cheap, think that'll do ? ) :)
ZXspectrum? Isn't that one of those tiny 8bit computers built for people that were too poor to buy a VIC-20?
Stick with yours Macs and Amigas.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Apple-MAC-G4-QUICKSILVER-800Mhz-1Gb-40Gb-DVD-RW-OS-X-/300488472272?pt=UK_Computing_Apple_Desktops_CV&hash=item45f68236d0
Yes, that would do - if its got a supported video card (the listing doesn't mention what video card the unit has).
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Apple-MAC-G4-QUICKSILVER-800Mhz-1Gb-40Gb-DVD-RW-OS-X-/300488472272?pt=UK_Computing_Apple_Desktops_CV&hash=item45f68236d0
Bit confused here... :confused:
That macs only got the same 800Mhz speed as the one I'm using now and if this one's too slow and not any good for running MorphOS, how is that one going to help ? :confused:
(or are you one trying to sell it... :lol: )
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Bit confused here... :confused:
That macs only got the same 800Mhz speed as the one I'm using now and if this one's too slow and not any good for running MorphOS, how is that one going to help ? :confused:
(or are you one trying to sell it... :lol: )
Your existing one is not too slow to run MorphOS, it is just not supported by MorphOS due to missing drivers for the graphics hardware (and perhaps other bits). Speed wise, an 800MHz G4 ought to run MorphOS extremely well. The 800MHz G4 in my A1 runs OS4.1 very nicely and that's on rather less well designed hardware than the G4 Mac. MHz for MHz I'd expect the G4 Mac to outperform the A1 and since MorphOS is, I believe, heavily optimised for G4 (liberal use of altivec) with a supported Mac, you should have no trouble.
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@ Karlos
Cheers... that's a bit clearer now... :)
I've just remembered why I'd promised myself not to buy another one of those ruddy iMacs, you can't upgrade the silly thing. Oh well too late now... :(
(sometimes wish the missus was still here to stop me spending money on things that I don't really need... :lol: )
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sniff sniff... i smell Franko. He must be about to post something...
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Karlos is dead on with that. I'm currently using a 933Mhz processor in my Powermac under MorphOS 2.6. While I do have a 1.8 Ghz Sonnett upgrade coming soon, I'm not in any way disappointed with how the slower G4s operate under MOS.
Because its decended from a tight compact OS, MorphOS is more responsive than OSX.
About the only thing I miss is the wider selection of browsers (OWB is not bad, but I miss Opera and Firefox).
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If yours is the model I think it is, it should have an ATI X600 graphics card, which gives you a better chance than models with NVidia graphics cards, for a possibility of MorphOS2.x being ported to it some day in the distant future (just in case you want to see what it looks and feels like, the demo is always free, but time limited to 30 minutes before a reboot is needed to give you full speed again). One drawback of getting the G5 model of iMac, instead of the newer Intel Core2Duo models is that the Intel models run WinUAE and Amiga emulation much better than the G5 and E-UAE.
Lastly, I am usually very wary of eBay sellers that live so close by, but still refuse to allow you to pick up your won auctions in person. It can be nothing more sinister than the seller not wanting to bother with trying to arrange a time to meet with you, or the seller has had bad luck in the past where the buyer changes his/her mind after seeing the item in person, or worst case, the G5 iMac is in bad physical condition (or does not work at all) and the seller does not want you to know where he/she lives after the sale, so you can't bother him/her afterward and try to get a refund, or some kind of compensation to resolve a less than perfect, or less than described item. Hopefully you won't have any such problem, but I know how you feel when the seller won't allow you to pick up your item, no matter how close you are to them and you are forced to pay the shipping. Another reason that some sellers will not allow local pick up of your won auction item is because they have added a few pound/dollars/euros to the shipping cost to pay them for their time to box it up and take it to the shipping company and they might not want to lose that few extra dollars/pounds/euros because they did not get as much from the auction as they would have liked to get.
Good luck with your new computer purchase. Now what are you going to do with that G4 iMac 800MHz? It has a very unique case and monitor design, some hate it and others love it. Too bad it could not run MorphOS2.x for you due to the graphics card inside it as well as other drivers probably. 800MHz G4 is plenty fast for MorphOS2.6 and you could have gotten some good use from it for a few more years.
The GFX board in it is an Radeon X600 XT...
Full Specs can be found here...
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/stats/imac_g5_2.1_20.html
It's bought now so I'll just have to wait and see if it's in perfect condition like the seller claimed, just hope it's not like the one I bought before on ebay that had a tiny 2.5" inch laptop HD stuck to the shielding with brown parcel tape. Got my money back in the end (£399) but it was a lot of hassle...
One of these days I'll buy the right machine and give MorphOS a try, think I'd better ask here in future before making any more non Amiga purchases... :)
Reckon I'll end up keeping the G4 and add it to all my other stuff that I can never bare to part with... :)
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... presto!
Once again my feline senses have detected trouble even before he arrives!
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sniff sniff... i smell Franko. He must be about to post something...
I'll have you know my dear chap I once sat here online for a full 14 minutes and 37 seconds without posting anything... :lol:
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I didn't want to infer that we had some kind of superior knowledge about hardware.
For all I know, you may find OSX preferable to MorphOS.
But since your primary experience has been with Amigas, I think you'd find MOS very familiar.
Frankly, I think anyone with an Amiga background, were they to give MorphOS a try, would come away with a positive impression.
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I didn't want to infer that we had some kind of superior knowledge about hardware.
For all I know, you may find OSX preferable to MorphOS.
But since your primary experience has been with Amigas, I think you'd find MOS very familiar.
Frankly, I think anyone with an Amiga background, were they to give MorphOS a try, would come away with a positive impression.
Primary... more like ONLY... :lol:
But it's nice to know that folk will point me in the right direction before I make any more hasty purchases... :)
(just need to remember to ask first before I do, Oh yeah... not too impressed by OS X but that could be due to this machine being pretty slow... :) )
@ Kesa
That was at least a full 4 minutes between posts... :)
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@Franko
4 minutes. It must of been hard for you. But if you think thats impressive i once went 3 hours without licking my own bum! :kitty:
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Primary... more like ONLY... :lol:
But it's nice to know that folk will point me in the right direction before I make any more hasty purchases... :)
(just need to remember to ask first before I do, Oh yeah... not too impressed by OS X but that could be due to this machine being pretty slow... :) )
@ Kesa
That was at least a full 4 minutes between posts... :)
I thought G4s were pretty slow too, but they're actually pretty capable. It's OSX, its a serious resource pig.Using the processor I have installed right now (the 933Mhz), video under OSX simply wasn't fast enough (even for simple Flash animation).
Now I can view most common files without stutter and I anticipate being able to view 720p files once I upgrade the processor.
When G5 support is introduced, I expect MOS to be able to display anything up to 1080p resolutions.
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3.1 on the a1200 and morphos on macmini but i vote morphos for all the os4 fans :P
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Interesting,
Outside 3.1 and 3.9, the most used OS' are PPC based (AOS4.1 and MOS).
With all the posts suggesting a shift to X86, you might expect more AROS users to vote for their OS.
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Three votes have been recast from M68K AmigaOS versions to MorphOS. Anybody else want to change their mind?
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Bit confused here... :confused:
That macs only got the same 800Mhz speed as the one I'm using now and if this one's too slow and not any good for running MorphOS, how is that one going to help ? :confused:
(or are you one trying to sell it... :lol: )
MorphOS only has driver support for certain models of Mac. The Quicksilver range of G4 towers is the best supported of them, outside of the 1.25GHz eMac model.
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Interesting,
Outside 3.1 and 3.9, the most used OS' are PPC based (AOS4.1 and MOS).
With all the posts suggesting a shift to X86, you might expect more AROS users to vote for their OS.
I don't think the votes can easily be looked at in those terms. You have to bear in mind that each "camp" tend to have their own forums and may even not post here at all. What you see here is approximately representative of those amiga.org users that could be bothered to cast their vote, nothing more.
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Drat... I was just about to say something but now I've forgot what it was, time for bed I think, it's just about 11:25am and I think my brains dozed off before the rest of me... oh well it can wait, it probably wasn't important anyway... :(
Night, Night all... :)
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I don't think the votes can easily be looked at in those terms. You have to bear in mind that each "camp" tend to have their own forums and may even not post here at all. What you see here is approximately representative of those amiga.org users that could be bothered to cast their vote, nothing more.
As if... Next you'll say there is no Santa Claus!
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Drat... I was just about to say something but now I've forgot what it was, time for bed I think, it's just about 11:25am and I think my brains dozed off before the rest of me... oh well it can wait, it probably wasn't important anyway... :(
Night, Night all... :)
I'll take it from here Franko.
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As if... Next you'll say there is no Santa Claus!
That's just sily. Of course there's a Santa Claus.
It's the existence of God that's questionable (at least according to Steven Hawking).
And to go completely off tangent, here's a quote from Frank Zappa I'm fond of.
The Bible tells us God made us to be just like him.
So, if we're dumb,
Then God is dumb.
And maybe even a little ugly on the side.
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When G5 support is introduced, I expect MOS to be able to display anything up to 1080p resolutions.
IIRC Fab already said that a quick test with MPlayer on G5/MorphOS showed that these maschines are pretty easy able to handle that. But I am not the "Wolfbot", hence no link for that.
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IIRC Fab already said that a quick test with MPlayer on G5/MorphOS showed that these maschines are pretty easy able to handle that. But I am not the "Wolfbot", hence no link for that.
"Wolfbot"? ;) That's amuzing. I'm still trying to figure out how Andreas indexs and keeps track of all those references.
I've asked him about it, but he won't reveal his secrets to me. If it is just recall, then he very well might be cybernetic.
Still, I've learned not to question him (on most things) and since he defers to Frank (Pega-1 @ MorphZone) I definately don't question Frank.
With such sharp minds in our corner, I don't question my OS choice.
The G5 will give us the boost needed for really processor intensive tasks, but we're not going to get that for awhile. Meanwhile, I'm interested in seeing just how well the Sonnett upgrade I just ordered works.
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Hard to believe but the tracking number that I got for the G5 I bought on ebay wouldn't work, so after trying to contact the seller since yesterday I finally got this reply just now...
Dear xxxxxx,
Hello,
I bought the postage online but this has not been posted as yet.
It will be taken to the Post Office this afternoon, after it has been
scanned in to the system the tracking number will work. Delivery
as per ebay auction is 48 hour so you should receive this on
Friday.
Regards
- xxxxxx xxxx
He didn't even mention the fact that the tracking number he has given me is not accepted on the couriers site as it's too long, even though I pointed this out to him.
Talk about crazy, the payment was cleared at the end of the auction on sunday afternoon, the ruddy things less than 7 miles (probably a less than 20 minute round trip) from my house and now I have to wait till Friday to get it, gimme a car boot sale any day... :rolleyes:
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Hard to believe but the tracking number that I got for the G5 I bought on ebay wouldn't work, so after trying to contact the seller since yesterday I finally got this reply just now...
He didn't even mention the fact that the tracking number he has given me is not accepted on the couriers site as it's too long, even though I pointed this out to him.
Talk about crazy, the payment was cleared at the end of the auction on sunday afternoon, the ruddy things less than 7 miles (probably a less than 20 minute round trip) from my house and now I have to wait till Friday to get it, gimme a car boot sale any day... :rolleyes:
The guy sounds mental to me.
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The guy sounds mental to me.
He might be a relative of mine... :lol:
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How did you pay him Franko?
Hopefully, it was via some method you can request a charge back because it sounds like a scam.
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How did you pay him Franko?
Hopefully, it was via some method you can request a charge back because it sounds like a scam.
Let us not jump to conclusions just yet!
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Let us not jump to conclusions just yet!
You have to admit that the seller not allowing Franko to just pick up the system is a little weird. Then there's that tracking number issue.
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but hopefully Franko has made sure he's covered in case he is being taken advantage of.
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You have to admit that the seller not allowing Franko to just pick up the system is a little weird.
Well, I've seen a fair number of people who don't do that, because they don't want to get into the whole "so how much less do I pay for shipping, since you aren't shipping it" argument, as they make money on the "handling" side.
Also, some people don't interact with other people in person much.
And finally, I've picked up stuff from people's houses sometimes and REALLY wished I had just paid to have them ship it.. There are some weird people out there.. :roflmao:
desiv
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@ Iggy
Thank's for the concern, not to worry paid via paypal so I'm covered if it doesn't turn up. The guy seems genuine enough he's got a 100% feedback record and he's sold three identical machines this month with good feedback.
I'll need to check it out properly (if it arrives) and get my mate Ron who's an Apple service engineer to have a good look at it, as I reckon he might be putting them together himself having sold three this month already. As long as it arrives and works fine I'll be more than happy, if not ebay have always been very quick in returning my money if something goes wrong, just have to wait and see now... :)
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@ Iggy
Thank's for the concern, not to worry paid via paypal so I'm covered if it doesn't turn up. The guy seems genuine enough he's got a 100% feedback record and he's sold three identical machines this month with good feedback.
I'll need to check it out properly (if it arrives) and get my mate Ron who's an Apple service engineer to have a good look at it, as I reckon he might be putting them together himself having sold three this month already. As long as it arrives and works fine I'll be more than happy, if not ebay have always been very quick in returning my money if something goes wrong, just have to wait and see now... :)
Sorry, I shouldn't have even questioned on this. I know you're sharp enough to have this covered. And its been pretty rare that for me to experience bad transactions (especially with a seller with good feedback).
The only bad experience I've had recently was with a Radeon 9200 video card that I bought from a seller who offered a return policy. On plugging the card in, it damaged my motherboard.
After contacting the seller (who was PO'd that I'd posted negative feedback) I was inforfmed the card was untested and offered a return on the card.
Since postage back to the seller was higher than the cost of the card (and I was afraid he'd re-sell it to someone else) I took the loss. After all, the real loss was my motherboard.
I'm going to be really careful the next time I buy anything that could cause that kind of loss.
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Really interesting to see OS3.9 taking such a lead while even the Classic Workbench version is too dead slow for most Amiga's, even 030 ECS machines.
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Interesting,
Outside 3.1 and 3.9, the most used OS' are PPC based (AOS4.1 and MOS).
With all the posts suggesting a shift to X86, you might expect more AROS users to vote for their OS.
When I voted, the AROS option didn't exist. I selected OS3.9 running on WinUAE/Amikit.
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Three votes have been recast from M68K AmigaOS versions to MorphOS. Anybody else want to change their mind?
Could you change my vote to AROS?
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Could you change my vote to AROS?
Done.
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Three votes have been recast from M68K AmigaOS versions to MorphOS. Anybody else want to change their mind?
Yes. You could guess which one I want my vote changed to, but I'll forget about my sarcasm for the moment and just ask you to change it to MorphOS.
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If those results are an accurate representation of current Amiga users, over the past 10 years the NG Amgia flavours combined have only capture 30% of the market.......good grief Penfold!
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That's just sily. Of course there's a Santa Claus.
It's the existence of God that's questionable (at least according to Steven Hawking).
I wonder if God believes in the existence of Steven Hawking?
I'm guessing no
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Yes. You could guess which one I want my vote changed to, but I'll forget about my sarcasm for the moment and just ask you to change it to MorphOS.
I need you to confirm what your original vote was for before I can change it.
I'd prefer it if people just requested this by PM as I'm not exactly trawling this thread.
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I need you to confirm what your original vote was for before I can change it.
In that case I want all 33 of my votes for 3.9 to be changed to AROS ;)
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In that case I want all 33 of my votes for 3.9 to be changed to AROS ;)
:roflmao:
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Whoo Hoo, it's arrived... :banana:
Just took delivery of the G5, the case is pretty badly scuffed and the screens was manky but it came up ok after a quick clean with UPVC cleaner. Haven't switched it on yet cos it's freezing, need to leave it room temperature for a while before I can see if it works. :)
Unusually it came with all the original install disks + the genuine iLife disks & a brand new remote, just need to hope it's working ok, fingers crossed... :nervous:
I've got a spare 500Gb HD, anyone know if I install this will the original Install disks that I've got setup/format this HD if I swap it for the 250GB one already in it. (never installed/set up a Mac HD Before)... :confused:
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Franko have you got a SAM440/460?
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Franko have you got a SAM440/460?
Naw, just another iMac that I bought cos I was bored on Sunday... :(
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Well, I've just switched on the iMac, perfect picture no dead pixels everything was just like the seller said, only trouble is he hasn't told me what the admins password is and now I can't change anything until I get the password... :(
Anyone know if there is a way change or find out the password on a mac without knowing what the original one was... :)
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Put install DVD in drive turn on holding down C... A reinstall will start :)
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Put install DVD in drive turn on holding down C... A reinstall will start :)
Cheers bloodline... :)
I'll give it a try now... thanks... :)