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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: runequester on November 07, 2010, 02:29:51 AM

Title: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: runequester on November 07, 2010, 02:29:51 AM
Does this exist ?

Basically, I really like the A2000 keyboard and Id love to be able to sit with the keyboard in my lap, instead of being hunched over the 1200.
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: smerf on November 07, 2010, 02:38:36 AM
Quote from: runequester;590027
Does this exist ?

Basically, I really like the A2000 keyboard and Id love to be able to sit with the keyboard in my lap, instead of being hunched over the 1200.


Hi,

Only way you are going to do this is buy an adapter from Amigakit, they have one for the A1200 with a ps2 connector, in order to have the A2000 keyboard work is to buy an ps2 to ibm keyboard adapter. So actually you will need two adapters,

1. A1200 to ps2 keyboard.
2. ps2 adapter to ibm type keyboard. (same as the large connector on the A2000 keyboard)

smerf
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: runequester on November 07, 2010, 02:43:24 AM
Quote from: smerf;590028
Hi,

Only way you are going to do this is buy an adapter from Amigakit, they have one for the A1200 with a ps2 connector, in order to have the A2000 keyboard work is to buy an ps2 to ibm keyboard adapter. So actually you will need two adapters,

1. A1200 to ps2 keyboard.
2. ps2 adapter to ibm type keyboard. (same as the large connector on the A2000 keyboard)

smerf


Thanks !

It looks like their adapters are for a towered model. I'll keep my eyes open though.
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: kolla on November 07, 2010, 02:46:35 AM
Easy route is to get a subway and use a USB keyboard.
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: smerf on November 07, 2010, 02:48:26 AM
Quote from: runequester;590029
Thanks !

It looks like their adapters are for a towered model. I'll keep my eyes open though.


Hi,

Take a look at this one, it looks good.

PC-Key 1200 Keyboard Adapter

The microprocessor-based keyboard interface for Amiga 1200 supports PC (WIN and AT), Amiga 2000 and Amiga 4000 keyboards.

$40.11

category/product code:   adapters/interfaces » ADAKEY003

@Amigakit.

smerf
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: smerf on November 07, 2010, 02:50:06 AM
Hi,

Hope Karlos doesn't accuse me of trolling here.

:-)

smerf
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: runequester on November 07, 2010, 02:56:46 AM
Quote from: smerf;590031
Hi,

Take a look at this one, it looks good.

PC-Key 1200 Keyboard Adapter

The microprocessor-based keyboard interface for Amiga 1200 supports PC (WIN and AT), Amiga 2000 and Amiga 4000 keyboards.

$40.11

category/product code:   adapters/interfaces » ADAKEY003

@Amigakit.

smerf


Ahh, that one looks like it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: Franko on November 07, 2010, 03:04:02 AM
Quote from: runequester;590027
Does this exist ?

Basically, I really like the A2000 keyboard and Id love to be able to sit with the keyboard in my lap, instead of being hunched over the 1200.


I use my old A1500 keyboard which is the same keyboard as the A2000 on my main A1200 set up, Nothing more than 4 Wires and a 5 pin Din connector to make it work, the only thing it lacks is the three finger salute but that was easily solved by adding a reset button on the Amiga... :)
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: mongo on November 07, 2010, 03:16:24 AM
Quote from: runequester;590027
Does this exist ?

Basically, I really like the A2000 keyboard and Id love to be able to sit with the keyboard in my lap, instead of being hunched over the 1200.


Does it exist? No.

Is is easy to make one? Yes.

Everything you need is here : http://aminet.net/package/docs/hard/a500key1
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: smerf on November 07, 2010, 04:39:19 AM
Quote from: Franko;590040
I use my old A1500 keyboard which is the same keyboard as the A2000 on my main A1200 set up, Nothing more than 4 Wires and a 5 pin Din connector to make it work, the only thing it lacks is the three finger salute but that was easily solved by adding a reset button on the Amiga... :)


Hi,

@Franko,

Last time I tried soldering wires on my Amiga, I was giving the 5 finger salute, as the soldering iron ran across my finger tips. With a lot of luck the only damage done was my burnt fingers, it could have been worse I could have damaged my miggy (now that would have been a ten finger salute with a lot of cuss words).

smerf
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: smerf on November 07, 2010, 04:51:23 AM
Hi,

@kolla,

I wouldn't advise that subway for the Amiga 1200 to anyone, bought one from Amigakit, installed it and it smoked like a big dog. Then I looked at my connections and saw that I missed an end pin on the A1200 and smoked the ribbon cable that connects to the clockport, Ya know this stuff never happended when I was younger, the old eyes just can't see that good any more. Actually I did not like the instructions that came with it. Finding pin #1 was quite difficult, and the instructions where vague, (I know who reads instructions, thats for wimps).

By the way anyone know where I can get a copy of OS 4.0, I now have my Amiga 1200 running with a 240 mhz ppc card and from all the stuff I could find on the OS 4.? is that OS 4.0 is the only one that works on the classic Amiga, so, anyone know where I could buy it, or does OS 4.1 work on the classic also, this I know where to buy (I hope, Amigakit?)

I used to shop at software hut, but they haven't answered any of my emails, anyone know if they still exist?

I know, I am acting like Karlos, and asking a lot of silly questions (oops, sorry Karlos, I forgot you only give silly answers)

smerf
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: runequester on November 07, 2010, 05:01:21 AM
Quote from: smerf;590053
Hi,

@kolla,

I wouldn't advise that subway for the Amiga 1200 to anyone, bought one from Amigakit, installed it and it smoked like a big dog. Then I looked at my connections and saw that I missed an end pin on the A1200 and smoked the ribbon cable that connects to the clockport, Ya know this stuff never happended when I was younger, the old eyes just can't see that good any more. Actually I did not like the instructions that came with it. Finding pin #1 was quite difficult, and the instructions where vague, (I know who reads instructions, thats for wimps).

By the way anyone know where I can get a copy of OS 4.0, I now have my Amiga 1200 running with a 240 mhz ppc card and from all the stuff I could find on the OS 4.? is that OS 4.0 is the only one that works on the classic Amiga, so, anyone know where I could buy it, or does OS 4.1 work on the classic also, this I know where to buy (I hope, Amigakit?)

I used to shop at software hut, but they haven't answered any of my emails, anyone know if they still exist?

I know, I am acting like Karlos, and asking a lot of silly questions (oops, sorry Karlos, I forgot you only give silly answers)

smerf


4.0 should work on powerPC classics, but no idea how usable or snappy it is.

They are working on 4.1 for classics but a lot of people have doubts if it'll be usable in reality
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: kolla on November 07, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: smerf;590053
I wouldn't advise that subway for the Amiga 1200 to anyone, bought one from Amigakit, installed it and it smoked like a big dog. Then I looked at my connections and saw that I missed an end pin on the A1200 and smoked the ribbon cable that connects to the clockport, Ya know this stuff never happended when I was younger, the old eyes just can't see that good any more. Actually I did not like the instructions that came with it. Finding pin #1 was quite difficult, and the instructions where vague, (I know who reads instructions, thats for wimps).


Sounds to me that you didn't really read the instructions :rtfm:
http://www.e3b.de/usb/soft/sw_manual.pdf
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: Xanxi on November 07, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
Both the keyboard adapters i own can use a standard amiga keyboard with automatic recognition. They are:

- the Ateo adapter:
http://www.bboah.com/index.php?action=artikel&cat=61&id=2587&artlang=en

- the Elbox PC-Key 1200:
http://www.bboah.com/index.php?action=artikel&cat=61&id=2600&artlang=en

Grab one of those and you can use A2000/A3000/A4000 keyboards flawlessly, including Ctrl-A-A reset.
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: kolla on November 07, 2010, 11:43:45 AM
I got the impression that the original question was how to connect an external keyboard to an A1200 as an addition to the original keyboard, not as a replacement. But I cold be wrong.
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: tone007 on November 07, 2010, 11:55:51 AM
The method Franko mentioned is the cheapest, though you'll want to know how to solder a bit before trying to attach wires to the CIA chip (only 2, the 5V and GND can be taken from anywhere.)

Here's some info, easily adapted to the A2000 keyboard given the pinout. http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=430612&postcount=6

Pinouts: http://www.l8r.net/technical/t-keyboard.shtml

I did this mod on an A600 and it worked fine.

edit: may or may not allow you to use both keyboards, never tried that.
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: Xanxi on November 07, 2010, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: kolla;590081
I got the impression that the original question was how to connect an external keyboard to an A1200 as an addition to the original keyboard, not as a replacement. But I cold be wrong.


In that case, the only way is to get a Subway.

Then, my fellow countryman from amigaimpact.org Pulkomandy has made some USB to Amiga keyboard adapters, basically to use A2000/A4000 keyboards on a PC, but they are also recognized by Poseidon.
I own one of the prototypes. Still buggy but promising. It is possible to update the microcode of these devices.

Honour us with a visit to http://www.amigaimpact.org to learn more :)
Title: Re: Adapter to use A2000 keyboard on a 1200?
Post by: runequester on November 07, 2010, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: kolla;590081
I got the impression that the original question was how to connect an external keyboard to an A1200 as an addition to the original keyboard, not as a replacement. But I cold be wrong.


That was the intention yes