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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: TheGoose on December 14, 2002, 02:46:50 AM
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What web editors do you use on your Amiga if you do? Anyone try that Metal Web program?
Another thing, how do the forums support HTML? I tried a simple link the other day but it wouldn't render. Looked at the source code and saw quotes turned in to single quotes, what's going there?
my web space (http://home.nc.rr.com/goose2000/)
Thanks :-)
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I have tried several MetalWeb, WebDesign, Webmaker, & Web Plug. Call me old-fashioned, but I use Cygnus-Ed with HTML-Heaven. I just save the web page and I flip to my open browser and say refresh. It may not be as new-fangled as a WYSIWYG editor, but I haven't seen a really good one for the Amiga yet. This works for me.
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I've tried MetalWeb. For extremely simple stuff, it'll do, but after that it's crash city. :( You'll wind up going back to a simple text editor or a text editor with an HTML support package as stated by another user.
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Do those text editors have line numbering? I'm just starting to consider doing something on the web using my Amiga for fun.
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What exactly do you mean by line numbering? CygnusEd tells you where your cursor is by column and row. Is this what you mean? I don't see how this helps or hinders web design though.
I do nearly everything web-related from my Amiga.
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Thanks, Yea, that sounds fine. I'm just use to debugging and like something with line numbers.
Have you or anyone, tried Amiga Apache?
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As for an editor, anything with context coding will do it for me since I build html by hand. However, it doesn't matter if there is context hilighting or not, I still do it by hand. The other requirement I look for in an editor is the ability to control tabs and the conversion of tabs to spaces. All of my html I build must have 2 space tabs with the tab character stripped and removed when saved. I do this type of tabbing for legibility sake when I go back to edit a web site or component.
My favorite editor is Eve (currently a work in progress by Roger Monkman) followed very closely by Blacks Editor. Neither of them have syntax hilighting but they are very powerful editors with enormous ARexx capabilities. If I had to choose between all of the editors available today, I would definately go with GoldED on a professional level followed by CygnusED.
What is needed are programs like HomeSite5 and TopStyle3 Pro. Take out quite a few of the meaningless features in both products and you have an awesome product.
To place a link in a comment, use the '[' and ']' in this fashion:
'['url=http://mypage.com']'Title of page'['/url']'
*Note: Remove single quote marks for the link to render. If you have a space in the url use %20 to substitute the space.
:pint:
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Ed, what more is there to say.
I like things simple and coding by hand.
On the PC I use TextPad.
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GoldED Studio 6
It has a really nice HTML plugin with the package which does some JS parsing too (IIRC). It has an "explorer" window that will scan the directory of the #?.html file you are editing and will put all of your sources at your fingertips. I haven't had the money to try the AIX package.
I have metal web, and have used it to set up the "base" page if I'm playing with frames. Tables are a no-no in metalweb, and TBH that package needs a LOT of work.
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@Argo "Ed, what more is there to say."
Ed's pathetic. It uses CON:, and if KingCON's scroll bar's are used it mangles up the text.
CygnusEd all the way baby!
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CygnusEd v4.20
Best little text editor on ANY platform.
And I don't use any plugins. Hand coded all the way!
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@JoNty
That's shoUlders.
8^)
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Didn't take much notice of the spelling at the time when I C&P it. :)
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I also write my pages by hand, I use GoldEd and the web world plug-in although to be honest I don't think I make the most of the Web World features - I never really seem to have the time to get into it properly. That said the syntax highlighting is handy for spotting silly mistakes (missing quotes and the like).
For the Total Amiga site I use hsc (http://www.linguistik.uni-erlangen.de/~msbethke/software.html) this is an HTML preprocessor which allows you to include external HTML files and and many other useful functions. It took me a while to get everything set-up but now I can make changes to common elements of the site headers and footers, the look of tables etc. much more quickly. If you're doing a site that's going to see a lot of updates and you're not up to writing something properly database driven it's a good option.
Robert
http://www.totalamiga.org (http://www.totalamiga.org)
http://www.seal-amiga.co.uk (http://www.seal-amiga.co.uk)
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I used GoldED to create the initial version of my website. It had been years since I had done
any html and the only thing I could remember was that "<" go around commands. Though I do want to do
a rewrite, as I know I could do better now. I`m pleased with it, but it does need redoing. The
webworld plug in is so helpful. For the beginner or the pro. You have a list of pages, images etc on
the right of the window. Useful!
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Hi,
For any editing and any platform, I use Vim.
And for those that say it isn't an amiga program, well, development for Vim started on Amiga.
It takes a while getting into it, but after that, it's all you'll ever need.
Best of all, it's free :-)
Check out at: www.vim.org
Greetz,
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I'm WebPlug's No. 1 fan, I hate HTML without it, it's a shame the author left the amiga a couple of years ago. It makes writing good HTML easy, and it's multiple document handling means that it's easy to work on a whole site in one go.
I run it on it's own screen (1024*768) with all the various toolbar windows around the edge for maximum efficiency.
The only problems are a couple of bugs in the 2.0Beta and the syntax hilighing is a bit basic, although as it is a plugin type system someone could always make a better one.
It's sad that it's often overlooked. A real hidden gem (and in my top ten most wanted OS4 apps.) :-D
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EditPad...:-D
Kay
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I set up basic page designs using Symantec Visual Page on my Win-DOHS laptop PeeCee. Then I transfer to Amiga and hand edit with GoldEd. I regret ever paying the shareware fee for MetalWeb. It crashes all over the place.
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WebPlug!
All my site are created with it!!!!!
And also www.iksnet.it (http://www.iksnet.it)
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I've tried a few different ones, but I always come back to CygnusED with a wackload of macros I put into it.
Its fantastic.
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@ ikir,
I tried WebPlug v1.45 and 2.0beta. 1.45 crashes on my machine, and 2.0beta won't even start up. Oh well.
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SilvrDrgn wrote:
@ ikir,
I tried WebPlug v1.45 and 2.0beta. 1.45 crashes on my machine, and 2.0beta won't even start up. Oh well.
That's a shame, you really don't know what you're missing out on. :-(
I use 2.0beta without any problems (there are a couple of bugs, but they're easy to avoid, not bad for a beta)
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Why would you use an HTML editor? Any text editor is fine for me.
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GoldED with its Webworld mode is a good code-oriented html editor. News sites like amiga-news.de (http://www.amiga-news.de) and Czech Amiga News are made with it. Here are some advantages:
- html is checked (tidy-based) and optionally corrected. Tidy runs as plug-in inside editor windows (see screenshot (http://members.aol.com/goldedstudioaix/images/screen_web.gif)), you can click on reported errors and are directly moved to the problematic line.
- files of site appear in the explorer (next to the text, see screenshot (http://members.aol.com/goldedstudioaix/images/screen_web.gif)), just click to insert a link to another page or to an image
- tags can be edited via dialogs (e.g. move cursor over , click a button, and a dialog opens to set attributes for font tag).
- preconfigured help
- send page to browser with click
- syntax highlighting for HTML, and, with php parser from Philippe, for Javascript, php, asp.
- tabbed toolbar to insert a lot of things with a mouseclick
- templates to get started quickly
- table to insert entities like (& )
- can convert "äöü", euro etc. to iso entities and back with a single mouseclick
- automatically inserts size information for all gif/jpg/png images
Btw, for html pages, GoldED Studio AIX is free (because the trial version has a 1000 lines limit and thag should be enough for html).
Download (http://members.aol.com/goldedstudioaix/projects/golded/demo.htm)
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> GoldED Studio
PS: if you are used to CED, also download face/on. This is a themes installer for GoldED which can install a CygnusED Professional 4 menu-lookalike (and the keyboard configuration that goes with it).
Download: face/on (http://members.aol.com/goldedstudioaix/projects/golded/updates.htm)
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TheGoose wrote:
Thanks, Yea, that sounds fine. I'm just use to debugging and like something with line numbers.
Have you or anyone, tried Amiga Apache?
I have. It's fairly stable on my machines. I've ran it on both an 040 and 060 machine with out many problems.