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Title: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Drummerboy on November 06, 2010, 02:57:00 AM
Hello,

Yep.. any goo suggest about any soft for Amiga OS 3.0 prevent accidentally HD Format..

suggests... commments...

Best Regards
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: fishy_fiz on November 06, 2010, 07:54:36 AM
I cant really offer any suggestions sorry, but I am curious how one accidently formats a harddrive ?  :-)  You either have to use a shell and type stuff, or use an icon, which prompts you if you're sure and then asks for volume label, if you want disk cache/trashcan/etc.
These things arent easy to do by accident  :-)
Or does OS3.0 not have these things ?  It's been a loooong time since Ive used 3.0.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: zipper on November 06, 2010, 10:15:29 AM
Was it c: lock /drive /on - but then you can't write until lock off...
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Piru on November 06, 2010, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: zipper;589839
Was it c: lock /drive /on - but then you can't write until lock off...

Lock doesn't prevent format.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Piru on November 06, 2010, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: Drummerboy;589792
Yep.. any goo suggest about any soft for Amiga OS 3.0 prevent accidentally HD Format..

MCP can prevent accidental format.

http://mcp.a1k.org/
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: ChaosLord on November 06, 2010, 01:46:35 PM
My solution to this problem back in the olden days was to buy an external Magneto-Optical drive.  Each disk held 540MB and had a hardware write-protect switch on them.  Once you flip the switch, nothing on the drive can be erased.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: beller on November 06, 2010, 05:01:42 PM
As with any hard drive problem, regular backups prevent data loss.  I've added USB to my 4000 and regularly copy the hard drive to an SD card.  

Backup Backup Backup!

Bob
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Franko on November 06, 2010, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: Piru;589840
Lock doesn't prevent format.


WOW... Piru got something wrong... :eek:

Lock DOES prevent you from Formatting a HD, just tried it a moment ago from both the CLI & the Workbench

Result, A requester telling you "Device In DHX: is write Protected" Format Failed... :)

I should point out that this was tried on OS 3.5, not sure about 3.0 or 3.1 as I don't have any partitions on those machines that I can risk testing it on... :)
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Drummerboy on November 07, 2010, 02:49:42 AM
Quote from: fishy_fiz;589819
I cant really offer any suggestions sorry, but I am curious how one accidently formats a harddrive ?  :-)  You either have to use a shell and type stuff, or use an icon, which prompts you if you're sure and then asks for volume label, if you want disk cache/trashcan/etc.
These things arent easy to do by accident  :-)
Or does OS3.0 not have these things ?  It's been a loooong time since Ive used 3.0.


if you use a computer and work with programs file managers, you can pass a careless error that formatting the HD, or if someone else uses the computer does not have much experience with computers, can format a HD..
Exists many ways for mistake Format HD
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Drummerboy on November 07, 2010, 02:50:46 AM
Quote from: Piru;589842
MCP can prevent accidental format.

http://mcp.a1k.org/


Ok,

I will check

thanks!
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: marcfrick2112 on November 07, 2010, 03:41:07 AM
Quote from: Drummerboy;590032
if you use a computer and work with programs file managers, you can pass a careless error that formatting the HD, or if someone else uses the computer does not have much experience with computers, can format a HD..
Exists many ways for mistake Format HD

Drummerboy: First, you should be careful who you let use your Amiga(s) (The only other human being I trust around my miggies is Save2600) Another option is a Zip drive, which can be software locked... EDIT: Never mind, Zip's can still be formatted w/HDToolbox.. :(

And, I repeat what Bob said... 'Backup, Backup, Backup.'

And, you might as well install MCP, as it does this and Soooo much more....:)
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Karlos on November 07, 2010, 11:52:10 AM
How easy is it to accidentally format your hard disk, anyway?
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: zipper on November 07, 2010, 12:05:09 PM
I think once when I had a stuck workbench some click did start a format but happily I recognized it quickly. Some work was needed to get it back but nothing was lost: And I do have backups of everything.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: ChaosLord on November 07, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: Karlos;590082
How easy is it to accidentally format your hard disk, anyway?
When I was working with mentally handicapped ppl I had to lock most of the drives to keep everything from being erased.

Not just from format but they had this way of somehow selecting ALL icons and throwing them in the trash or something.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: amiga92570 on November 07, 2010, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;590089
When I was working with mentally handicapped ppl I had to lock most of the drives to keep everything from being erased.

Not just from format but they had this way of somehow selecting ALL icons and throwing them in the trash or something.

I would say that they purposely formatted the drive than, as they must have chosen "do you really wish to format" tab.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: ChaosLord on November 07, 2010, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: amiga92570;590090
I would say that they purposely formatted the drive than, as they must have chosen "do you really wish to format" tab.
Mentally ill ppl randomly click things without reading what it says.  Even smart ppl with severe ADD can do that.
Or ppl on drugz.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: Piru on November 07, 2010, 01:40:55 PM
Quote from: Franko;589906
WOW... Piru got something wrong... :eek:

Lock DOES prevent you from Formatting a HD, just tried it a moment ago from both the CLI & the Workbench
I'm fairly sure that this works only for quick format. Regular format (device level) will work regardless of filesystem lock. Normal format will just ACTION_INHIBIT the drive and then use CMD_FORMAT on device level. I can't see how FS lock could stop that.

Finally, whether Lock stops ACTiON_FORMAT depends on the filesystem implementation. I doubt every filesystem does this correctly.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: amiga92570 on November 07, 2010, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;590092
Mentally ill ppl randomly click things without reading what it says.  Even smart ppl with severe ADD can do that.
Or ppl on drugz.


Oh, now I completely understand.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: amiga92570 on November 07, 2010, 01:52:27 PM
Why do you not just move the format command to a workbench unavailable directory.
Title: Re: -any good recommendation of a Soft to prevent accidentally HD formatting
Post by: tone007 on November 07, 2010, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: amiga92570;590096
Why do you not just move the format command to a workbench unavailable directory.


Win!