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Title: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: orb85750 on November 04, 2010, 07:44:31 PM
Seems that there was a time after the demise of Commodore that there was (or could have been) an officially accepted by all/most 'Amiga.'  Now, even the use of the trade name is fragmented, and it appears to me that there are many Amiga enthusiasts that don't accept Hyperion/OS4 as the "real" Amiga -- and almost nobody accepts anything Amiga Inc. is involved with either.  So 'Amiga' has *irreversibly* become this cloud of various Amiga-like and Amiga-related projects, OS, etc.?  Not possible to put Humpty Dumpty together again.
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: commodorejohn on November 04, 2010, 07:53:39 PM
Only if you hold the Amiga name/brand to be an essential component of a true Amiga. Personally, I feel far more strongly about the elegant hardware architecture and understandable-yet-flexible OS than I ever did about having Spanish lesbians on the nameplate (not that I'm opposed to that, mind.)
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: jorkany on November 04, 2010, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: orb85750;589358
So 'Amiga' has *irreversibly* become this cloud of various Amiga-like and Amiga-related projects, OS, etc.?  Not possible to put Humpty Dumpty together again.


I think you've got it.
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: bloodline on November 04, 2010, 08:57:09 PM
Quote from: orb85750;589358
Seems that there was a time after the demise of Commodore that there was (or could have been) an officially accepted by all/most 'Amiga.'  Now, even the use of the trade name is fragmented, and it appears to me that there are many Amiga enthusiasts that don't accept Hyperion/OS4 as the "real" Amiga -- and almost nobody accepts anything Amiga Inc. is involved with either.  So 'Amiga' has *irreversibly* become this cloud of various Amiga-like and Amiga-related projects, OS, etc.?  

That sounds about right... Amiga is what we make it now :)
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Not possible to put Humpty Dumpty together again.


Well, what do you expect? One is a crooked company that wanted to trade on the Amiga brand but with no tangible ideas and another company who's product has two essentially equal competitors...

The computer world moved on from what the amiga was trying to do over 15 years ago... The devices we use now are so far in advance of anything amiga was it is like comparing a model t ford with a Toyota prius... If anything we are lucky to have what we have got, so why not fire up your Amiga, UAE or AOS4, or MOS or AROS... Crack open a beer and have a bit of fun :)
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Karlos on November 04, 2010, 08:59:18 PM
Quote from: bloodline;589382
If anything we are lucky to have what we have got, so why not fire up your Amiga, UAE or AOS4, or MOS or AROS... Crack open a beer and have a bit of fun :)


^ this, sans the beer in my case.
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: takemehomegrandma on November 04, 2010, 09:23:34 PM
Quote from: orb85750;589358
Seems that there was a time after the demise of Commodore that there was (or could have been) an officially accepted by all/most 'Amiga.'  Now, even the use of the trade name is fragmented, and it appears to me that there are many Amiga enthusiasts that don't accept Hyperion/OS4 as the "real" Amiga -- and almost nobody accepts anything Amiga Inc. is involved with either.  So 'Amiga' has *irreversibly* become this cloud of various Amiga-like and Amiga-related projects, OS, etc.?  Not possible to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

That happened a long time ago already. Amiga Inc put the corner stone in this development by the "the Amiga is dead, long live the Amiga" announcement (announcing their Amiga Anywhere, or whatever they called it), and it has been downhill ever since. Most people I know made up their mind about "Amiga" way back in time, when ANN.lu was still active. These people (we, us) couldn't care less about the Amiga trademark; what's interesting to us is what technological merits a system has, features, specs, performance, backwards compatibility. This was key points for developing MorphOS, and this is the reason to why MorphOS is so popular among Amigans who are more interested in the experience than the trade mark. I am very pleased to see the "but it's not teh reeel!!1!!!1" argument finally being torpedoed down the depts, and I applaud Commodore for this! Your own post is a sign of awakening. Maybe people will start to *think* now!

And at the same time, I would actually consider one of Commodore's HTPC machines with the aumro/karmadigital cases as pictured on their web page. I'm looking for one for my living room anyway, and having a Commodore Amiga logo on it would make it a true gimmick! :)
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: nicholas on November 04, 2010, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: Karlos;589383
^ this, sans the beer in my case.


Let's crack out the Mango Lassi! :)
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Karlos on November 04, 2010, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: nicholas;589388
Let's crack out the Mango Lassi! :)


I have to be in the mood for that stuff :D Which usually involves curry. Say, there's an idea ;)
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: nicholas on November 04, 2010, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: Karlos;589389
I have to be in the mood for that stuff :D Which usually involves curry. Say, there's an idea ;)


Not forgetting the obligatory Shloer to go with it. :)

Sanams is a tempting mistress!
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: actung_bab on November 04, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
oh for pitess sake they saying this when amiga 600 came out and 500 + owners
where crying gezz before people crying when theres no new hardware no pleaseing some people
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Franko on November 04, 2010, 11:13:11 PM
Just had two Vindaloos myself tonight... :)

Washed down with some ice cold Irn Bru... :)

Lovely, Jublly ma bums a bit bubbly... :roflmao:
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: TheGoose on November 05, 2010, 12:13:33 AM
Quote from: orb85750;589358
Seems that there was a time after the demise of Commodore that there was (or could have been) an officially accepted by all/most 'Amiga.'  Now, even the use of the trade name is fragmented, and it appears to me that there are many Amiga enthusiasts that don't accept Hyperion/OS4 as the "real" Amiga -- and almost nobody accepts anything Amiga Inc. is involved with either.  So 'Amiga' has *irreversibly* become this cloud of various Amiga-like and Amiga-related projects, OS, etc.?  Not possible to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

Welcome into the light brother. Just get Ubuntu with a nice Amiga theme, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: tone007 on November 05, 2010, 12:18:26 AM
All this talk of Indian food is making me hungry. My dinner tonight was some pistachios straight from Iran, until I noticed the maggot-like creatures sharing them with me.  Took the rest of my bottle of Absinthe to defeat the urge to vomit.
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Franko on November 05, 2010, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: tone007;589425
All this talk of Indian food is making me hungry. My dinner tonight was some pistachios straight from Iran, until I noticed the maggot-like creatures sharing them with me.  Took the rest of my bottle of Absinthe to defeat the urge to vomit.


Them maggoty things would be fine in a vindaloo... :)
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Karlos on November 05, 2010, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: tone007;589425
All this talk of Indian food is making me hungry. My dinner tonight was some pistachios straight from Iran, until I noticed the maggot-like creatures sharing them with me.  Took the rest of my bottle of Absinthe to defeat the urge to vomit.


Pistachio nuts do that to me regardless. I have an allergy or intolerance to them that makes me suffer intense cramps, shakes and sweats for hours if I have even a small amount.
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Franko on November 05, 2010, 12:32:48 AM
Psst... Karlos...

Wanna buy some Pistachio nut's... :roflmao:

(my squirrels don't like them either, it make them hyperactive and they go nuts... :))
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Karlos on November 05, 2010, 12:36:28 AM
Quote from: Franko;589434
Wanna buy some Pistachio nut's...


(http://avatargraveyard.extropia.co.uk/av/msc_06.gif)
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Franko on November 05, 2010, 12:40:50 AM
Quote from: Karlos;589436
(http://avatargraveyard.extropia.co.uk/av/msc_06.gif)


SHOCKED... :eek:

Thing is, that little avatars speaking in scottish and I can understand it, not very pleasant you know... :shocked:
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: Karlos on November 05, 2010, 01:23:56 AM
He's the fundamentalist apostrophe and he's outraged at your abuse of his bretheren.

Quote from: Franko;589439
Thing is, that little avatars speaking in scottish and I can understand it, not very pleasant you know... :shocked:


Quote from: Franko;589434
Wanna buy some Pistachio nut's...
Title: Re: The end of the bonafide 'Amiga'
Post by: coldfish on November 05, 2010, 03:06:48 AM
LOL!  Maggots is free protein.

/topic:

Maybe if gateway had done something with the Amiga there might be a closer nit community these days?  Meh.

My bet is on a AROS/UAE based platform.  Leave all the expensive niche hardware and copyright wrangling behind.