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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Franko on November 02, 2010, 02:07:25 PM
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Just in the past hour I've had a visit from my Local Governments Dept Council Tax Inspector. The snidey little toad was here to see if some building work I have done, would put my house into a higher bracket for the payments of my Council Tax.
Anyway, while he was in my home he commented on the two A1200's that I have in bit's just now spread all over my kitchen worktops and floor. His comments were, 'I haven't seen one of those toys in years, my kids used to have one but grew out of them when they went to high school' I pointed out to him that the Amiga was 'not a toy' and began to point out the merits of the Amiga computer.
He then had the cheek to say 'but yes, in this day and age no-one would seriously use one of those let alone call it a computer', at this point I promptly told him to shut his ruddy cakehole do his inspection job and bugger off... :madashell:
Talk about being peed off, reckon the little jobby wil now put me in the higher Council Tax bracket for telling him where to go... :furious:
(hope his poxy laptop he had with him breaks down and he loses all his data... :))
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Just goes to show the average intelligence of the scots :)
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Sorry to disappoint you JJ, but he was a typical job stealing sassenach... :)
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Well that makes even more sense :)
I mean you scots can't saty sober enough to do a job :) :)
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Ha ha ha, how utterly ridiculous! Some people really have no clue, do they? How is a computer not a computer just because it's old? I suppose the Eniac, the first electronic Turing complete computer, isn't a computer then, either :lol: And, a toy? Some people use peecees as toys :)
This really makes me :roflmao:
On the other hand, it could just be meant to be insulting, which isn't so funny :(
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I suspect he bought one for his kids as a games machine hence the association as a 'toy'.
For the vast majority of the public this is exactly how Amiga was seen. The marketing Commodore did at the time didn't exactly push it as a serious computer either!
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I had people give me that same attitiude back in 1996.
Just in the past hour I've had a visit from my Local Governments Dept Council Tax Inspector. The snidey little toad was here to see if some building work I have done, would put my house into a higher bracket for the payments of my Council Tax.
Anyway, while he was in my home he commented on the two A1200's that I have in bit's just now spread all over my kitchen worktops and floor. His comments were, 'I haven't seen one of those toys in years, my kids used to have one but grew out of them when they went to high school' I pointed out to him that the Amiga was 'not a toy' and began to point out the merits of the Amiga computer.
He then had the cheek to say 'but yes, in this day and age no-one would seriously use one of those let alone call it a computer', at this point I promptly told him to shut his ruddy cakehole do his inspection job and bugger off... :madashell:
Talk about being peed off, reckon the little jobby wil now put me in the higher Council Tax bracket for telling him where to go... :furious:
(hope his poxy laptop he had with him breaks down and he loses all his data... :))
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What a shame! I hate taxmen anyway...
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Sorry to disappoint you JJ, but he was a typical job stealing sassenach... :)
Not sure what that means, but I offer better-
Let's see, you are required to let in a person you pay with your taxes, who then proceeds to insult you and raise your taxes more. Idea! We have many extra, so how about we export a shipload of 'Tea Party' activists to Scotland? They will follow them around with bullhorns ranting about the taxes, gov'mnt overstepping, and hitler!
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"The Amiga Is A Toy."
This is a pretty good guage of what the average (non amigan) person thinks of the Amiga in 2010.
Most hobbies involve some sort of "toy".
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We have many extra, so how about we export a shipload of 'Tea Party' activists to Scotland? They will follow them around with bullhorns ranting about the taxes, gov'mnt overstepping, and hitler!
Given that there's universal health care, they'd probably be terrified of the thought of being shipped off to the communist gulag of Scotland and avoid going to the doctor at all cost in case they'd be subjected to the death panels.
I picture them trying to survive through winter in the Scottish highlands armed to the teeth, shooting at any government official trying to get to them.
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Not sure what that means, but I offer better-
Let's see, you are required to let in a person you pay with your taxes, who then proceeds to insult you and raise your taxes more. Idea! We have many extra, so how about we export a shipload of 'Tea Party' activists to Scotland? They will follow them around with bullhorns ranting about the taxes, gov'mnt overstepping, and hitler!
Absolutely Splendid idea. Maybe once they experience taxation outside the US they'll "shut their buggerin cak holes".
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@ Franko
I would have gone along with him and kindly asked him if he still had those old Amiga "toys' lying around as I would be glad to save those old toys from the dump:afro:
you'd be surprised what some people throw away....about 6 years ago a buddy of mine found a mint A4000T with PPC card in mint condition at a building he was working at just laying there pretty next to the garbage bin:insane:
also, I guess telling the guy AmigaOS4.x, MOS, and AROS are modern Amiga OS's would have just gone over his head
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.about 6 years ago a buddy of mine found a mint A4000T with PPC card in mint condition at a building he was working at just laying there pretty next to the garbage bin:insane:
Why does this never happen to me? :lol:
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Why does this never happen to me? :lol:
tell me about it !!!...the prick sold it for a fortune on EBay without even asking me if I wanted to buy it first:madashell::madashell:
should've know better.....damn Mac user:furious:
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Given that there's universal health care, they'd probably be terrified of the thought of being shipped off to the communist gulag of Scotland and avoid going to the doctor at all cost in case they'd be subjected to the death panels.
I picture them trying to survive through winter in the Scottish highlands armed to the teeth, shooting at any government official trying to get to them.
When I grow up, I want to be able to put in this much snark into my posts :lol:
Man that is epic, cheers for the chuckle :D
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Did you show him milky tracker, and aweb, and sensi soccer
:D :D :D
now if you'll excuse me I need to finish up this visual c project I'm working on for the Exidy Sorcerer
LOOOOOOL
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Not sure what that means, but I offer better-
Let's see, you are required to let in a person you pay with your taxes, who then proceeds to insult you and raise your taxes more. Idea! We have many extra, so how about we export a shipload of 'Tea Party' activists to Scotland? They will follow them around with bullhorns ranting about the taxes, gov'mnt overstepping, and hitler!
Its a derogatory Welsh language word for English or person of English heritage.
I still remember going to a Scotland V Wales rugby match and being vary impressed and amussed of the Scots chants of "We hate the English, we hate the english, we hate the English more than you"
:roflmao::roflmao:
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I LOVE TOYS as well..... Franko, sorry about your run-in with the taxman.... Sadly, the 'toy' attitude is common, usually until someone actually uses an Amiga for any length of time.
One nice thing about the US, we don't have to have the taxman in our house (at least in Milwaukee, they are not allowed in your house unless you explicitly let them in...I never let them in..):laughing:
But, the whole 'toy' thing.. It's really a matter of perspective. The 'Speak and Spell' is certainly a toy, yet ppl. have been using 'em to make weird 'synths', etc... See Wikipedia...
{I really want to say 'death to the taxman', but I'm sure that violates the TOS... :lol:.... How about....}
May the fleas of one thousand camels infest the taxman's trousers for one thousand years (just to be sure ;) ) :hammer:
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I don't see anything wrong with toys! It would be a sad and dreary world without toys!
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I certainly consider my Amigas toys - what's wrong with that?
I'm a grown up, I can have as many toys as I like. Yay.
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Its a derogatory Welsh language word for English or person of English heritage.
I still remember going to a Scotland V Wales rugby match and being vary impressed and amussed of the Scots chants of "We hate the English, we hate the english, we hate the English more than you"
:roflmao::roflmao:
Ah thats the reason why none of the island-apes teams ever win a flowerpot at the worldcup.
Except offcourse for that one time with the blind german referee with swiss passport.
So that should help keeping this thread alive for atleast another 3 pages.
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@ hardlink
Thanks but no thanks, we've enough nutters here in Scotland without those loony tunes Tea Party bamsticks being shipped over... :)
@ Vidarh
Communists... bunch of softies that lot are... and a trip to the gulag would be better any day than a trip doon ra water tae Saltcoats...
We scots avoid the doctors like the plague, if you do visit one your usually greeted with the words, 'sorry pal but you've only got three months to live...'
(PS:It's always winter here in Scotland, my granda once told me about this thing called the SUN but I think he was making it up...) :)
@ JJ
Now we Scots generally get on very well with the Welsh, cos we both have one thing in common, we both hate the English (it's a birthrite), but dinnae go n try nickin oor wurds "Sassenach" is a Scottish word... :)
@ marcfirck2112
May the fleas of one thousand camels infest the taxman's trousers for one thousand years (just to be sure)
That's too good for a Taxman, a better punishment for them would be...
May the fleas of a thousand rabid scaby dugs infest every orifice of you and all your descendants, or may you choke on the smell of a thousand drunken Scotsmens jockstraps... :)
@ Kronos
That referee was actually a one eyed German with a swiss passport, who's actual grandfather was Scottish and his Grandmother was Welsh with hint of Irish thrown in... :)
Sorry if I left anyone out but me brains starting to seize up... :)
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Now we Scots generally get on very well with the Welsh, cos we both have one thing in common, we both hate the English (it's a birthrite), but dinnae go n try nickin oor wurds "Sassenach" is a Scottish word... :)
We Irish can join in here and generally get on with you Scots and Welsh well for the same reasons... Though we won't need to steal any of your words - we've plenty of terms of our own for the English ;)
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand what is the only differnece between a Irishmen and a Scottsmen?
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what time in the morning they start drinking!!!!!
a thank ya' a thank ya very much!!!!:roflmao:
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Franko, you must have the patience of a saint for not sweeping him to the ground and smashing his head to a bloody pulp.
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We Irish can join in here and generally get on with you Scots and Welsh well for the same reasons... Though we won't need to steal any of your words - we've plenty of terms of our own for the English ;)
We have plenty of names for the Irish but just call them Paddy to avoid confusing them ;)
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Lol, I guess I asked for that one! :p
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@ Vidarh
(PS:It's always winter here in Scotland, my granda once told me about this thing called the SUN but I think he was making it up...) :)
Yeah, yeah.. I'm Norwegian. You guys don't know what winter is :P
(though apparently I probably have a Scottish slave amongst my viking-age ancestors, according to DNA testing one of my cousins had done, so I guess that explains why I'm a bit of a softie when it comes to the weather)
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All this nationalistic talk got me thinking back to the good old days of the Four Nations Tournament. Those were the days, when we would we Scots, Irish & welsh would descend on Wembley for the annual nicking of the the hallowed turf and the borrowing of the English goalposts. :)
That was until the English F.A. chickened out and banned us celts then took the ball and went home saying we're not playing anymore... :(
But as you know by now I'm a bit of dreamer when it comes to the Amiga and most things in life, never give up hope I say. Well looks like one of my remaining dreams may be coming true again, cos it looks like the Four Nations Tournament is coming back in 2011, albeit without the English (Boo... Chickens... Buck, Buck, Buck) :roflmao:
Four Nations Tournament To Return In 2011 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/13/scotland-england-match)
It's amazing but I'm actually in this picture from 1977, when we gubbed ra English 2-1 at Wembley... :biglaugh:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/Scotland-England-001-1.jpg)
Looks like 2011 will be the time to dig out the old Tartan Bunnet, the Ginger Curly wig and the flared jeans with tartan bottoms... :banana:
@ Cammy
Naw, I just made sure I took a double dose of me medication before he arrived, otherwise I might be up on a murder charge right now... :)
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Reminds me of the early 1990's when I went into a local computer shop and asked 'do you guys deal in Amiga computers' just to have the nerdy salesguy say "No, we only deal with professional computers in this store" in a snotty tone. I replied 'oh, you mean like windows computers' in a sarcastic tone and then I was literally asked to leave the store. I should have contacted the local Better Business Bureau on that but they went out of business in about 6 months.
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I suspect he bought one for his kids as a games machine hence the association as a 'toy'.
For the vast majority of the public this is exactly how Amiga was seen. The marketing Commodore did at the time didn't exactly push it as a serious computer either!
sadly its true and only ibm pc at the time was looked on as a computer, something you used at work...
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...(though apparently I probably have a Scottish slave amongst my viking-age ancestors, according to DNA testing one of my cousins had done....
dude..I'm not even gonna ask:huh:
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Yeah, yeah.. I'm Norwegian. You guys don't know what winter is :P
(though apparently I probably have a Scottish slave amongst my viking-age ancestors, according to DNA testing one of my cousins had done, so I guess that explains why I'm a bit of a softie when it comes to the weather)
Eye but you softy Norwegiks dinnae wer a kilt dae ye, try dain rat an see whit happens tae yer dangly bits in winter... :eek:
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Not sure what that means,
He called the limey git a Saxon. Read up on your Scotts English history. The Brits have never treated the Scotts well. Not that they every really got along in the first place.
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sadly its true and only ibm pc at the time was looked on as a computer, something you used at work...
Oddly, they rarely did work...
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All ya gotta do is towerize that A1200 and it suddenly becomes a "computer" to just about everyone -- even to stupid people.
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Eye but you softy Norwegiks dinnae wer a kilt dae ye, try dain rat an see whit happens tae yer dangly bits in winter... :eek:
All this talk of Norway and Scotland reminds me of Orkney!
Look out for Skullsplitter!
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He then had the cheek to say 'but yes, in this day and age no-one would seriously use one of those let alone call it a computer', at this point I promptly told him to shut his ruddy cakehole do his inspection job and bugger off..
Which is no doubt why he's doing such a technically demanding job as working out how much money needs to be screwed out of you based on the size of your house. I would have told him he was paid to tick the relevant boxes and if I wanted technical advice from someone totally unqualified to give it, I'd ring my ISP's helpline.
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Not sure what that means, but I offer better-
Let's see, you are required to let in a person you pay with your taxes, who then proceeds to insult you and raise your taxes more. Idea! We have many extra, so how about we export a shipload of 'Tea Party' activists to Scotland? They will follow them around with bullhorns ranting about the taxes, gov'mnt overstepping, and hitler!
You say that as if it were a bad thing. ;-)
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"The Amiga Is A Toy."
This is a pretty good guage of what the average (non amigan) person thinks of the Amiga in 2010.
Most hobbies involve some sort of "toy".
If they do they are idiots, Amiga was a revolutionary state of the art machine (A1000) to a genuine alternative (A4000 on launch day) and now they are all vintage computers. Amiga was never a toy, it was a creative machine or an awesome [when programmed properly] games computer that did some things better than a Megadrive (shit twangy music) pfff (Lotus II is impossible on the SNES) or PC (shit OS that broke at the mere though of multimedia in 1985-1993) and Mac (overpriced single tasking bollox)
This is my potted history of the computing past, feel free to print this out and superglue it to the eyeballs of non-believing Macwankers/Doswankers/Nintendopes :)
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I think the "toy" part is possibly a reflection of the times the Amiga was commercially succesful and to a degree Commodore wanting the Amiga to be Commodore64-The Sequel. Back in those days computers were regarded as toys geeks/nerds played with (the fact that videogames were thier main home use probably contributed to this a bit) by the general population. The Amiga500 was by far and away the most popular Amiga sold, and although it could be used for a lot of other stuff, it was considered a games machine. Most of Joe Public with no real interest probably do vaguely remember the Amiga as "oh, they had good games back in the 80's".
The irony here is that a big, clunky, heavy pc with either monochrome or cga display + beeps was considered a "serious" machine. Also perphaps a touch ironic is that the Amiga's real charms didnt really surface until after it's era of dominance. (sure, for it's time an ocs/ecs amiga had some impressive software, but for me at least the Amiga experience didnt really start maturing until ks2.x/wb2.x and a harddrive were involved, and only really starts shining with '030+fast ram+Ks3.x/OS3.x).
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When I grow up, I want to be able to put in this much snark into my posts :lol:
Man that is epic, cheers for the chuckle :D
yeah, that was quite brilliant.
and to that tax idiot, I would add: this "toy" also generated Emmy Awards so he can just go suck it.
so to speak :)
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If they do they are idiots, Amiga was a revolutionary state of the art machine (A1000) to a genuine alternative (A4000 on launch day) and now they are all vintage computers. Amiga was never a toy, it was a creative machine or an awesome [when programmed properly] games computer that did some things better than a Megadrive (shit twangy music) pfff (Lotus II is impossible on the SNES) or PC (shit OS that broke at the mere though of multimedia in 1985-1993) and Mac (overpriced single tasking bollox)
This is my potted history of the computing past, feel free to print this out and superglue it to the eyeballs of non-believing Macwankers/Doswankers/Nintendopes :)
Oh wow, you sure did tell off 21 years ago. Man I bet 1989 is feelin' the burn from that one.
HEAR THAT, PAST? YOU SUCK!
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Oh wow, you sure did tell off 21 years ago. Man I bet 1989 is feelin' the burn from that one.
HEAR THAT, PAST? YOU SUCK!
:roflmao:
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All this talk about the Amiga being a "toy" got me to thinking. In the context of the way the taxman spoke - I mean... did he sound condescending or was he just trying to spark a conversation? Talking about the kids growing out of 'em after high school could have just been genericmans mediocre way of trying to relate. Whenever I've had members of the mainstream over for whatever reason (ie: no real hobbies or creativity, just a wifey, kids, pets, "career" and a favorite sports team), every_single_time they will catch something 'cool' to talk about out of the corner of their eye. And every_single_time, it is in not only amazement that what they're gazing upon is in such nice shape, but they reflect on *whatever* with admiration of their past. Like the oldies, takes people back to a time they felt good about.
It's all in the attitude and inflection when they speak. I can't imagine anyone coming over to your home (as a guest, taxman, whatever), just to go out of their way to insult you. I also bet the guy couldn't tell the difference between a Famicom, Commodore 64 or an Amiga. More than likely thought it was a Spectrum or Commodore 64 for all we know. And if the guy had any common sense at all, he'd know that classic or vintage toys typically have great value behind them.
People call their yachts, toys. Their collectible autos, toys. Their jacuzzi, a toy. Toys are the reason for the season. What makes the world go 'round.... :laughing:
Besides all this, who cares. He's a taxman who's hated by all. Hated even more than telemarketers - who is made to feel like shit each and every day for choosing such a worthless occupation. Guy probably loathes himself and explains why he was such a dick (if that was his real M.O.), picking on a hapless vintage computer enthusiast ;)
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We Irish can join in here and generally get on with you Scots and Welsh well for the same reasons... Though we won't need to steal any of your words - we've plenty of terms of our own for the English ;)
Weeeeeeeell, I remember an episode that happened a couple of years ago where I met two really drunk men on a late saturday evening. We started talking and I understood that they weren't from Norway, so I asked them where they come from, and they replied "where do you think?". Then I said Ireland, which turned out to be a mistake since I later realized they were scottish. One of the men got very upset and suddenly had a red face, bulging eyes and clenched fists, and he mumbled something in a broad accent while the other guy tried to calm him down by saying that I didn't understand and that it all was a simple mistake.
He succeded with calming the other guy, but I was pretty sure I would get a serious beating for a while :lol:
So I belive that although the Irish, Scots & Welsh have in common that they hate the English, they do hate each other just a tiny bit as well Am I right or what? :)
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John Jameson and Sons. What's not to love about Ireland? :drink: :knuddel:
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Thats what I love about Amiga.org, I mean where else can a thread go so completely on & off topic yet still be so interesting and fun to read. Reckon that's why I feel right at home here it's a complete madhouse... :)
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Misc/Certifiably_Insane___Blank_by_Mearu-2.jpg)
You can only take the advice of the great Blackadder and say... WIBBLE... :crazy:
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/Blackadder_IV_-_Goodbyeee.jpg)
@ save2600
Naw, it was said in a condescending tone of voice with more than a hint of a sneer on the slimy little gits coupon.. (still he's only a Taxman and that's as low as you can get...) :)
@ PanterHZ
I think it's genetic in these isle's while we all claim to hate the English, your right we do jump at slightest opportunity to hate each of our little nations, especially when the weather is good and we've got nothing else to complain about (it's just considered a national pastime in these parts...) :)
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Eye but you softy Norwegiks dinnae wer a kilt dae ye, try dain rat an see whit happens tae yer dangly bits in winter... :eek:
Please tell me Franko, is it really true that kilt users have no underwear on?
But let me tell you what a real WINTER is: When I was in the army I was stationed in the northern part of Norway, where we sometimes had to sleep in a tent when there was -20° Celsius (and sometimes even colder) outside. Try to imagine going outside and pulling down the pants in order to do some "private business" in this cold. Oooooh! My dangly bits, I was almost afraid of losing them each time :lol:
I have never been so quick in doing what I had to do as I was back then.
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Please tell me Franko, is it really true that kilt users have no underwear on?
But let me tell you what a real WINTER is: When I was in the army I was stationed in the northern part of Norway, where we sometimes had to sleep in a tent when there was -20° Celsius (and sometimes even colder) outside. Try to imagine going outside and pulling down the pants in order to do some "private business" in this cold. Oooooh! My dangly bits, I was almost afraid of losing them each time :lol:
I have never been so quick in doing what I had to do as I was back then.
Personally I've never worn a kilt, cos with my spindly legs and knoblly knees it wouldn't be a pretty site... :eek:
I can only say that the funeral I was at on Monday, there were a few kilt wearers in attendance and as it was such a windy day some of the sights were not very pleasant to behold when the wind blew... :)
Minus 20, I think we achieved that high a temperature back in the summer of 86... :roflmao
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Absolutely Splendid idea. Maybe once they experience taxation outside the US they'll "shut their buggerin cak holes".
Yeah, I suppose we should roll our spineless selves over and take it in the back end like any good subject of the crown, whilst our empire is slowly dissolved.
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@ PanterHZ & Franko
pfffft -20 you say...we Canadians play shinny hockey outside on ponds in our t-shirts when it's that warm outside:afro:
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(hope his poxy laptop he had with him breaks down and he loses all his data... :))
... don't worry Franko, most likely this has happened to him on numerous occasions already.
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He called the limey git a Saxon. Read up on your Scotts English history. The Brits have never treated the Scotts well. Not that they every really got along in the first place.
Or just watch Brave Heart!!!:laughing::laughing:
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@ save2600
Naw, it was said in a condescending tone of voice with more than a hint of a sneer on the slimy little gits coupon.. (still he's only a Taxman and that's as low as you can get...) :)
Well, in that case - would have been nice to see the look on the wankers face after you explained to him that NASA employed several Amiga "toys" to perform some of their most important calculations ;)
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You know whats really funny..?
That fact that he was right..
And I don't care how much flame you guys bring in the next replies.
but it IS A TOY because my iphone has more power than your Amiga 1200.
and if my iphone is a toy which it is, how can the Amiga not be.
So you can try to hold on to the niche of it all for as long as you want.
In reality though, which is where the inspector was.
They ARE just a toy. a very expensive toy...
And whatever they "could" do 20 years ago they "can't" do now.
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And whatever they "could" do 20 years ago they "can't" do now.
It's a computer, not a human being. What can it not do today what it did 20 years ago? :huh:
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You know whats really funny..?
That fact that he was right..
And I don't care how much flame you guys bring in the next replies.
but it IS A TOY because my iphone has more power than your Amiga 1200.
and if my iphone is a toy which it is, how can the Amiga not be.
So you can try to hold on to the niche of it all for as long as you want.
In reality though, which is where the inspector was.
They ARE just a toy. a very expensive toy...
And whatever they "could" do 20 years ago they "can't" do now.
If it's packing a motorola 68040 that's an ex supercomputer cpu. In the old days there were no petaflops, but there were Crays Supercomputers with several 68040s in them.
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Save2600: Yup, good call about NASA (Amiga's were used to monitor telemetry, because, according to one NASA employee, 'They never crash') Not bad for a 'toy'...
mikrucio: Simply because a machine is no longer state-of-the-art has nothing to do with it being a 'toy' or not.
Trying to think of an analogy..... I inherited an old LED calculator from my dad, one of the first on the market, it works OK.. no scientific functions, base-conversion, graphing.... But hey, it works just as well for a basic calculator as the latest TI models.... The Amiga may be slow and under-powered compared to current PC's, but it is still quite useable as a computer, to say the least. Judging by some Amiga music I heard from A.org members, I would have to say the sound quality is equal to or better than any other PC I've heard.
And ya know, buddy, you can keep your Photoshop and GIMP... If I want to do Serious graphics work, it means DCTVPaint,DPaint5,PPaint7,and/or ImageF/x... or Lightwave, or Plotter3D, or.....On My Amiga... :afro:
Gonna just go and play with my 'toys' .... :roflmao:
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I could accept labeling the Amiga as a "Toy".
Toys are fun. Amigas are also fun (as well as useful)
I can't say that most other so-called "real computers" I've used were much fun, at least to me.
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All this talk of Norway and Scotland reminds me of Orkney!
Speaking of such - can we have Shetland back anytime soon? :roflmao:
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How about movie makers,TV stations,cable company's some toy there..
Chris :roflmao:
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@ hardlink
Thanks but no thanks, we've enough nutters here in Scotland without those loony tunes Tea Party bamsticks being shipped over... :)
@ Vidarh
Communists... bunch of softies that lot are... and a trip to the gulag would be better any day than a trip doon ra water tae Saltcoats...
We scots avoid the doctors like the plague, if you do visit one your usually greeted with the words, 'sorry pal but you've only got three months to live...'
(PS:It's always winter here in Scotland, my granda once told me about this thing called the SUN but I think he was making it up...) :)
@ JJ
Now we Scots generally get on very well with the Welsh, cos we both have one thing in common, we both hate the English (it's a birthrite), but dinnae go n try nickin oor wurds "Sassenach" is a Scottish word... :)
@ marcfirck2112
May the fleas of one thousand camels infest the taxman's trousers for one thousand years (just to be sure)
That's too good for a Taxman, a better punishment for them would be...
May the fleas of a thousand rabid scaby dugs infest every orifice of you and all your descendants, or may you choke on the smell of a thousand drunken Scotsmens jockstraps... :)
@ Kronos
That referee was actually a one eyed German with a swiss passport, who's actual grandfather was Scottish and his Grandmother was Welsh with hint of Irish thrown in... :)
Sorry if I left anyone out but me brains starting to seize up... :)
Sorry Franko not trying to steal your words. but its very simillar to to the bad word for English in Welsh, thought you had mis-spelt it :)
I cant say welsh and scots generally very similar, judging by the gibberish they seem to be talking on BBC Alba :)
Now cornish and Welsh very smiliar and also very similar to briton.
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Yeah, I suppose we should roll our spineless selves over and take it in the back end like any good subject of the crown, whilst our empire is slowly dissolved.
Given the election results, I see you've collectively already bent over and dropped your pants.
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But let me tell you what a real WINTER is: When I was in the army I was stationed in the northern part of Norway, where we sometimes had to sleep in a tent when there was -20° Celsius (and sometimes even colder) outside.
I think you confused the seasons. I've experienced -30 for several weeks straight near Oslo. That was starting to feel a bit nippy. When it was -20 I used to sleep with my window open.
That said, I've visited Northern Alberta, Canada in October and that makes me never want to set foot anywhere in Northern Canada during their actual winter.
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He called the limey git a Saxon. Read up on your Scotts English history. The Brits have never treated the Scotts well. Not that they every really got along in the first place.
They didn't exactly treat the Welsh well either if you want to look up that history also.
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So I belive that although the Irish, Scots & Welsh have in common that they hate the English, they do hate each other just a tiny bit as well Am I right or what? :)
Well, there's probably a grain of truth in there alright :) You will find a good number are just fiercely proud of their country and that's the end of it... And mix that with the types who go out to get totally drunk and look for a fight, and you have the guys you met there. If you'd bought him a drink you'd probably be best friends with him in the end ;)
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I believe the Amiga or any computer is what you make of it, if you just want to toy around with it fine, if you want to do some serious or creative stuff with it great, but it's none of the tax mans business and I think he's a total arse for spouting off about it.
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He then had the cheek to say 'but yes, in this day and age no-one would seriously use one of those let alone call it a computer',
Unfortunately I too would class the classic Amiga as a toy. The classic amiga compared to the behemoths of today is like comparing a Speak and Spell to an (aforementioned variety of) Amiga.
I'm quite happy to have them classed as that, since the common models were also classed as that back in the day and why CBM never really got into making massive sales in actual Amiga business machines (exceptions being Videotoaster etc etc).
Would you class a ZX Spectrum as a toy? Sir Clive intended it for an educational establishment audience but had to settle for the home games market (and very well he did out of it).
Edit: I wouldn't have expected the council guy to know about the more powerful Amigas (which is I'm assuming what you took offence at) - I would have excused his ignorance.
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Well that makes even more sense :)
I mean you scots can't saty sober enough to do a job :) :)
And this, from a welshman no less! ;)
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I would have be chuffed that he even recognised it at all!
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@ kolla
Tricky subject the old Shetland (hjaltland) is, let's just say we... erm borrowed them for a wee while and changed the name a wee bit and are taking good care of them... ;)
@ Tone007
Orkney is quite simply the land where the best mature Chedder Cheese in the world come from... (they're allowed to roam free on that windswept little place until they reach full maturity, when they are mercilessly culled, wrapped in cellophane and sent off to the shops for me to buy and eat as cheese on toast...) :)
@ mikrucio
Are you a Taxman, hmm you sound suspiciously like a Taxman, Burn him, Burn the unbeliever I say... ( or failing that just gently prod him with a long pointy stick...) :)
@ JJ
Not even when drunk can either of BBC Albas two viewers understand what is being said, still it's one more viewer than S4C has... :biglaugh:
@ All Across The Pond In The Good Ole U, S of A
C'mon, own up which of you voted for the Tea Party... :confused:
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I think you have to be drunk to speak Welsh.
Cwmhrdyceirw!
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Oh wow, you sure did tell off 21 years ago. Man I bet 1989 is feelin' the burn from that one.
HEAR THAT, PAST? YOU SUCK!
DOS Wanker? Mac Wanker or Nintendo loser in the 90s/80s then? LOL
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@ kolla
Tricky subject the old Shetland (hjaltland) is, let's just say we... erm borrowed them for a wee while and changed the name a wee bit and are taking good care of them... ;)
@ Tone007
Orkney is quite simply the land where the best mature Chedder Cheese in the world come from... (they're allowed to roam free on that windswept little place until they reach full maturity, when they are mercilessly culled, wrapped in cellophane and sent off to the shops for me to buy and eat as cheese on toast...) :)
@ mikrucio
Are you a Taxman, hmm you sound suspiciously like a Taxman, Burn him, Burn the unbeliever I say... ( or failing that just gently prod him with a long pointy stick...) :)
@ JJ
Not even when drunk can either of BBC Albas two viewers understand what is being said, still it's one more viewer than S4C has... :biglaugh:
@ All Across The Pond In The Good Ole U, S of A
C'mon, own up which of you voted for the Tea Party... :confused:
:lol:
S4C has a pretty decent amout of viewers considering the small population of wales of about 3.9M
The first time I put BBC Alba on I thought, What they on about, they must be pished.
I love the scots me. My gran is from edinburgh so I am part scot anyway. Must be the part of me that makes me ddrink every day :) No wait there thats the celt in me
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DOS Wanker? Mac Wanker or Nintendo loser in the 90s/80s then? LOL
Actually, monkey boy, I owned an A500 from '88 to '92, and an A1200 from '92 to '95. I had a C128 prior to the 500, a C128 before that, a 64, and a VIC-20 to start it all off. The only consoles I've owned: Atari 2600, Playstation, and a Wii the wife got at an office raffle.
I occasionally fire up WinUAE (the last time I played Quake 1 was under WinUAE - ran about 60fps in 800x600 with WinUAEgfx driver).
I'm just not terminally addicted to railing at the past for a future that will never be.
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I can only say that the funeral I was at on Monday, there were a few kilt wearers in attendance and as it was such a windy day some of the sights were not very pleasant to behold when the wind blew... :)
I closed my eyes and tried to imagine this scenario for a moment........ oh the horror!!! :)
@ PanterHZ & Franko
pfffft -20 you say...we Canadians play shinny hockey outside on ponds in our t-shirts when it's that warm outside:afro:
Well, I realize that it can be just a bit cold in Canada as well :)
But take a look here what can happen with some hot water and -30 here in Norway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSZC7KR00o&feature=related
I think you confused the seasons. I've experienced -30 for several weeks straight near Oslo. That was starting to feel a bit nippy. When it was -20 I used to sleep with my window open.
Yes but now you are talking about the lowest peaks, when I said -20 I meant the average temperature that was up in the north.
It must be said that every year it's the same, it snows in Oslo which in turn leads to complete chaos in the traffic, it's like you people suddenly realize too late that it's winter now, and maybe it will snow as well. Funny to watch every time :roflmao:
Personally I live on the west coast of Norway, and it rarely goes below -20 here. If it did, we will simply freeze to death.
Well, there's probably a grain of truth in there alright :) You will find a good number are just fiercely proud of their country and that's the end of it... And mix that with the types who go out to get totally drunk and look for a fight, and you have the guys you met there. If you'd bought him a drink you'd probably be best friends with him in the end ;)
Yes I realize that the word "hate" in this context should be taken with a pinch of salt, and I may add that what you mention here is the same between us norwegians and swedes as well :)
BTW. I did meet the same guys later that evening, and they were both in a good mood then.
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@ PanterHZ
Can't wait till January to try out that in the video... :)
By the way I almost understood what they were saying, sounded like a couple of drunken Scotsmen to me... :)
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It must be said that every year it's the same, it snows in Oslo which in turn leads to complete chaos in the traffic, it's like you people suddenly realize too late that it's winter now, and maybe it will snow as well. Funny to watch every time :roflmao:
I live in London now, and if you think what happpens in Oslo is chaos, you should see what happened last winter when it snowed in London. Whole town practically stopped for 2-3 days. People didn't dare to drive, or drove so slow I could overtake them on foot. Over maybe 20-30 cm of snow.
And of course tons of trains were cancelled, because, you know, a train couldn't possibly handle a tiny bit of snow on the tracks.
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did some things better than a Megadrive (shit twangy music) pfff (Lotus II is impossible on the SNES) or PC (shit OS that broke at the mere though of multimedia in 1985-1993) and Mac (overpriced single tasking bollox)
/Nintendopes :)
I second that. The mac looked like it was for simpletons and PC multimedia games were half baked.
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If it's packing a motorola 68040 that's an ex supercomputer cpu. In the old days there were no petaflops, but there were Crays Supercomputers with several 68040s in them.
I've never heard of Cray using 68040's, they'd be far too slow. NCR did some unix boxes with them, but they were outclassed by intel pretty quickly.
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I've never heard of Cray using 68040's, they'd be far too slow. NCR did some unix boxes with them, but they were outclassed by intel pretty quickly.
SGI and Sun and a bunch of others did 68k based Unix boxes too. My university still had a bunch of Sun boxes with 68020's in them in '94, though at point they were being slowly replaced by MIPS powered SGI's.
Also never heard Cray mentioned as a user. It's not that the CPU would be too slow per se for normal instructions, but that it's not a vector unit - the entire point of at least Cray's early machines was that they offered extremely wide vector units. As far as I know, Cray only used their own designed CPU's until 1993 when they released a series based on the DEC Alpha.
It's not impossible they might have used 68k CPU's in "support" functions (though I have no idea if they did) such as terminals/operator consoles or to control peripherals or stuff like that (just like some Amiga models had a 6502 derivative on the keyboard, and some Amiga SCSI cards had a Z80 on them...), but certainly not as the main CPU.
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I've never heard of Cray using 68040's, they'd be far too slow. NCR did some unix boxes with them, but they were outclassed by intel pretty quickly.
I saw one on a documentary. It had a sign on it, "Cray supercomputer." Next line said, "68040"
Also I heard of a supercomputer - not sure which one using about 8 or 12 68040s, when the 68040 was brand new.
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I saw one on a documentary. It had a sign on it, "Cray supercomputer." Next line said, "68040"
Unlikely to have referred to the main CPUs. When the 68040 was launched in 1990, Cray just released an "entry level" super computer at $2.2 million - their cheapest model at that point with one or two 166MHz custom CPU's with lots of vector math support.
However I think I might've found a clue. The Cray EL-90 used 68k series CPU's to control their I/O subsystem and serial port. So there might've been 68040's in some models as glorified embedded microcontrollers instead of custom chips. The Cray's were/are expensive enough that throwing a 68040 or ten in there to offload tasks like that off the main CPUs wouldn't affect the price much.
Also I heard of a supercomputer - not sure which one using about 8 or 12 68040s, when the 68040 was brand new.
There's a failed supercomputer company called Myrias that did actually launch a supercomputer called the SPS-3 that had 48 x 68040's in September 1990. It might've competed favorably with the very smallest (1 or 2 CPU) Cray model for vector maths, and likely beaten it for non-vector stuff (Cray's were at the time geared pretty much 100% towards vector math)
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You know whats really funny..?
That fact that he was right..
And I don't care how much flame you guys bring in the next replies.
but it IS A TOY because my iphone has more power than your Amiga 1200.
and if my iphone is a toy which it is, how can the Amiga not be.
So you can try to hold on to the niche of it all for as long as you want.
In reality though, which is where the inspector was.
They ARE just a toy. a very expensive toy...
And whatever they "could" do 20 years ago they "can't" do now.
there's hole in your "logic".
The computers NASA used to get people to the Moon don't have the power of the laptop I'm typing this post on. and YET, they worked well enough for this VERY important - possibly the most important - event in human history.
you can call any device a 'toy' but the bottom line is that it's the person(s) using that device that really get the most out of it.
da Vinci using a pencil is not the same as all of us reading here using that same pencil. Everyone using the Amiga just as a toy is simply proving their lack of imagination and talent. It's wasted on them.
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da Vinci using a pencil is not the same as all of us reading here using that same pencil. Everyone using the Amiga just as a toy is simply proving their lack of imagination and talent. It's wasted on them.
There is an even bigger hole in your logic. If you have imagination and talent, why would you limit yourself by sticking with twenty year old technology?
NASA wouldn't pick Amiga today. The total cost of ownership is too high.
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Yeah, I'm sure buying a few $20 computers from yard sales would cripple their budget.
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NASA wouldn't pick Amiga today. The total cost of ownership is too high.
Why do you think m68k CPUs are still being sold ? If not for the NASAs of the world and their contractual obligations, Freescale would have long stopped selling these CPUs.
greets,
Staf.
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The Cray-1 and Cray-2 supercomputers used proprietary vector processors. The 68040 wasn't released until 1990 or so whereas the Cray-2 was released in about 1985. It was already doing almost 2 GFLOPS then, so it's hard to imagine a machine based on 68040's trumping that.
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@ kolla
Tricky subject the old Shetland (hjaltland) is, let's just say we... erm borrowed them for a wee while and changed the name a wee bit and are taking good care of them... ;)
You better, or they'll revolt, huh? :roflmao:
As a Norwegian it's always a great joy to visit Shetland and Orkney, the people there seem very enthusiastic about their norse heritage and ties with Norway. Their flags and the way they use them speaks volumes :)
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SGI and Sun and a bunch of others did 68k based Unix boxes too. My university still had a bunch of Sun boxes with 68020's in them in '94, though at point they were being slowly replaced by MIPS powered SGI's.
Also never heard Cray mentioned as a user. It's not that the CPU would be too slow per se for normal instructions, but that it's not a vector unit - the entire point of at least Cray's early machines was that they offered extremely wide vector units. As far as I know, Cray only used their own designed CPU's until 1993 when they released a series based on the DEC Alpha.
It's not impossible they might have used 68k CPU's in "support" functions (though I have no idea if they did) such as terminals/operator consoles or to control peripherals or stuff like that (just like some Amiga models had a 6502 derivative on the keyboard, and some Amiga SCSI cards had a Z80 on them...), but certainly not as the main CPU.
SGI's Iris workstations were 68020 powered; but of course that was in 1987 or thereabouts.
Here (http://hardware.majix.org/computers/sgi/iptable.shtml) is a list of models and CPU types; here's a picture of the CPU board.
(http://[IMG]http://hardware.majix.org/computers/sgi.iris/images/iris3010.05.big.jpg)[/img]
Note the full 020 over there to the left.
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Weeeeeeeell, I remember an episode that happened a couple of years ago where I met two really drunk men on a late saturday evening. We started talking and I understood that they weren't from Norway, so I asked them where they come from, and they replied "where do you think?". Then I said Ireland, which turned out to be a mistake since I later realized they were scottish. One of the men got very upset and suddenly had a red face, bulging eyes and clenched fists, and he mumbled something in a broad accent while the other guy tried to calm him down by saying that I didn't understand and that it all was a simple mistake.
He succeded with calming the other guy, but I was pretty sure I would get a serious beating for a while :lol:
So I belive that although the Irish, Scots & Welsh have in common that they hate the English, they do hate each other just a tiny bit as well Am I right or what? :)
Hi,
In Pennsylvania we call people from Ireland Micks, we call Scots what else but Scots, and have a saying, If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it must be a Scot, but if it falls like a duck, and quacks like a dog, then it must be a mick.
smerf
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Hi,
In Pennsylvania we call people from Ireland Micks, we call Scots what else but Scots, and have a saying, If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it must be a Scot, but if it falls like a duck, and quacks like a dog, then it must be a mick.
smerf
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
(PS:What do you call or say about Pennsylvanians... :) )
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:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
(PS:What do you call or say about Pennsylvanians... :) )
Hi,
@Franko,
Most Pennsylvanians are Pollacks, it seems that they like the letter P, so Pennsylvania and Polish both start with P's which turns out to be PP, which somehow leads to drinking beer, because we all know that in heaven there is no beer thats why we drink it here, and when were gone from here our friends will be drinkin all the beer. So if it looks like a P and acts like a P then it must be PP.
smerf
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erm... I think I followed that, not quite sure though kinda lost me a wee bit after the PP, speaking of which... I suddenly feel like I need to visit the smallest room in the house... :o
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Hi,
@ all Scots and Irish,
Been sitting here drinking some Scotish whiskey and Irish whiskey, and do you know that after having 6 glasses of each, I still can't tell which one is better, and I swear to everything that is sacred that the end of the 7th glass of each they both seem to taste the same.
smerf
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Hi,
@ all Scots and Irish,
Been sitting here drinking some Scotish whiskey and Irish whiskey, and do you know that after having 6 glasses of each, I still can't tell which one is better, and I swear to everything that is sacred that the end of the 7th glass of each they both seem to taste the same.
smerf
Now that I can believe... :lol:
You've been conned with the Scotch though... only WHISKY comes from Scotland WHISKEY are poor imitations that the micks, sorry Irish sell you... ;)
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Now that I can believe... :lol:
You've been conned with the Scotch though... only WHISKY comes from Scotland WHISKEY are poor imitations that the micks, sorry Irish sell you... ;)
Hi,
Been drinkin some of the red grouse and mikey collins whiskey, and you know what, I am going to go to the old liquor shelf, and pull down the Crown Royal and see if it tastes the bloody same. If it does, that mean either I am really drunk or the darn micks ruined my taste buds again. Tried some of that jack daniels, but it tastes like darn sugar water or some kind of taste that a doctor serving you medicine might taste like. Any how almost done with the red grouse and mikey collins. I think I might go to bed, I feel a little sleepy about now.
smerf
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Why does this never happen to me? :lol:
its does to me but only in my dreams
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are but yes.. the irish have the coors buddy mmm lovley lovely
like the drummer mmm tasty and u2 for the ladys and you have simple minds hehe
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Methinks Smerfs been on a bender... :)
(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af79/frankosamiga/Funny/Smerf01-1.jpg)
Night, Night Smerf Pleasant Dreams... :)
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Tried some of that jack daniels, but it tastes like darn sugar water or some kind of taste that a doctor serving you medicine might taste like.
Yeah, Jack Daniels is pretty bad.