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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: orb85750 on November 01, 2010, 04:22:08 PM

Title: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: orb85750 on November 01, 2010, 04:22:08 PM
and "Commodore" profiting (maybe) from all their hard work?  In this case, "Only AROS makes it possible," because Amiga Inc. could not do anything like this new venture without it.
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: vidarh on November 01, 2010, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: orb85750;588495
and "Commodore" profiting (maybe) from all their hard work?  


I can't speak for the rest, but why should we care all that much? The license of AROS explicitly allows commercial use, and others (ClusterUK, phoenixconsole) already sell hardware intended for AROS.

If it brings new users, cool. If it doesn't, everything is as before. If they decide to spend money on AROS development, great. If not, well, everything is as before.

There's really no ways for it to negatively affect AROS, and it doesn't seem all that likely that it'll make a major positive impact.

Quote from: orb85750;588495

In this case, "Only AROS makes it possible," because Amiga Inc. could not do anything like this new venture without it.


I don't know what you're getting at here, as none of what they're doing is dependent on AROS. I very much doubt that we'll see many people buying their boxes to buy AROS compared to Windows or Linux.
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: klx300r on November 01, 2010, 05:13:56 PM
well I hate to see AI make 1 cent off the back of AROS BUT saying that if CUSA want to be taken seriously by the community they should invest in AROS development for these PC branded Amigas....at least they'll be supporting an Amiga inspired OS rather than just another WinBox
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: orb85750 on November 01, 2010, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: vidarh;588498

I don't know what you're getting at here, as none of what they're doing is dependent on AROS.


What?  Of course it is.  What would the new "Commodore Amiga" machine be without AROS?
(just another Win or Linux machine with a different name)
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: Tension on November 01, 2010, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: klx300r;588507
well I hate to see AI make 1 cent off the back of AROS BUT saying that if CUSA want to be taken seriously by the community they should invest in AROS development for these PC branded Amigas....at least they'll be supporting an Amiga inspired OS rather than just another WinBox


But they blatently want to sell WinBoxes anyhow.  Cant see AI/CUSA doing anything positive for "the community"

P.S. I suppose they could print off some vouchers and then not honour them.  No, they wouldn't do that would they?
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: SysAdmin on November 01, 2010, 05:53:03 PM
It's Barry Barry strange.
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: eb15 on November 01, 2010, 06:15:19 PM
Anyone can produce a commercial AROS if they want.  Whether that's commercially viable in the marketplace is another question altogether.    It won't stop a "free" AROS from existing side by side.   I'd like to see the copyright and trademarks assets of "amiga inc"  purchased away from those who were directly involved with the Gateway  Amiga inc. and folded into a non-profit organization that supports all Amiga like platforms and their users.
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: Fats on November 02, 2010, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: orb85750;588495
and "Commodore" profiting (maybe) from all their hard work?  In this case, "Only AROS makes it possible," because Amiga Inc. could not do anything like this new venture without it.


AROS is open source so they can use the AROS code it they want. If they improve the AROS code they have to make the changes public.
If they want full support for their hardware from us they will need to earn our respect by showing commitment for working with the AROS community.

greets,
Staf.
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: Fats on November 02, 2010, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: eb15;588530
Anyone can produce a commercial AROS if they want.


but you'll need to rewrite the CD/DVD file system. This is currently licensed for non-commercial use only.

greets,
Staf.
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: fishy_fiz on November 02, 2010, 11:08:43 PM
My thoughts pretty much mirror what others have said in that Im somewhat nonchalant. If they want to be involved and contribute something, great, but if not nothing has changed.
Title: Re: How do the AROS guys feel about Amiga Inc
Post by: Debaser on November 02, 2010, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Fats;588894
but you'll need to rewrite the CD/DVD file system. This is currently licensed for non-commercial use only.

greets,
Staf.


Is that party going to have the means to bring legal action against that? Not that I know the answer to that but it hasn't prevent other companies in having a go with copyrights before.

I think the venture is/was dead before it began. Regardless if they buy/own Amiga - I would shudder to think anyone really thinks they will amount to a hill of beans. The owner of CommodoreUSA doesn't seem to know or understand the IP or the marketplace for an Amiga product and appears to be trying to get a crash-course on the message boards and in turn, poo-poo'ing on most of it possible only end customers.
Strange is an understatement.