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Title: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 05, 2003, 10:16:45 PM

 Hi all, nice to meet you. I was an Amiga 500 owner and im about to receive a bog standard Amiga 1200 from a friend who doesent use his.

Now it doesent have a HDD, CD rom drive or any goodies, its just a plain A1200. Correct me if im wrong but that wont have an operating system will it? just workbench on floppy disk?

Exactly what do i need to get it up and running with Amiga OS? what goodies etc do i need?

Many thanks  :-D
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 05, 2003, 10:21:07 PM
Oh and can i get any PD games for it?? like the ones i used to get from magazines? and wheres the best place to get games? :-D

(and no i dont wanna use an emulator!) :-)
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: blobrana on December 05, 2003, 10:29:33 PM
a 2.5" HD will slot right into the machine anything bigger than 80Mb will do...
You could consider an  `accelerator` that will allow you to increase the memory.
The internet is full of PD to download...just use google.com

I used to run an 1200 off just one floppy, but you really need all the disks, try to get at least 3.0
You can then install them onto your new Hard-drive...



 :-D
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 05, 2003, 10:55:25 PM


I take it ill need a CD rom drive as well to get OS on it? this is going to be costly!

so i can get PD games of google? and how do i get this onto my Amiga

thanks  8-)
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: whabang on December 05, 2003, 11:32:13 PM
The best place to find PD-games would be Aminet.
I'm to lazy to explaiun what Aminet is and how you get the games from there to your 1200. I'd recomend that you get an old 2.5 HD (a few hundred megs should do) first.
A CPU-upgrade is not really neccesary if you only plan to use the 1200 for retro-gaming, allthough a RAM expansion would probably be nice.

If you're not planning on putting any money into it, I'd recomend that you find a local Amiga user group and see if they can help you with getting games onto floppies.

BTW, there is plenty of old commercial games that has been released for free on the Internet...
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: Doobrey on December 05, 2003, 11:35:23 PM
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godspeed wrote:

I take it ill need a CD rom drive as well to get OS on it? this is going to be costly!
 


Nope, as Blobby said above, just copy the OS from the floppies onto the hard drive..
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: tweek on December 06, 2003, 12:26:52 AM
@ godspeed :

Back to the roots (http://www.back2roots.org) would also be a nice place to go if you're looking for old Amiga games.

-Tweek
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 06, 2003, 12:17:12 PM
Those Assasins disk look just what im after, but arnt they all in ADF ??I have nearly all the Amiga 1200 games on ADF but its just not the same running WINUAE. The whole process of downloading games on your pc and getting them on a disk for an Amiga seems eternaly impossible! :-?
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 06, 2003, 12:35:18 PM


Also, can you run Amiga 500 games on a 1200? so many questions i know :-)
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: lempkee on December 06, 2003, 12:41:17 PM
did u get 5 or 6 Floppies with WORKBENCH 3.0 with your a1200 ?  , if you have the DISK labelled "INSTALL" then you just insert that and install workbench 3.0 (or 3.1 if thats what u got) onto your hdd.

anyway i would recomend you to get 1. A hdd , 2. A Acceleartor (any... 020 with 4mb fast is infact abig Speedup (just adding fastmem to a trapdoor card) ..  3. is to add a cdrom , but if u add a cdrom then u will need a new psu also..

i would advice you to look on EBAY and on AMIBENCH.COM for people selling second hand gizmos like 020 or 030 cards for a1200 and maybe a 2'5 inch hdd etc..

goodluck...
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: lempkee on December 06, 2003, 12:44:08 PM
yes a1200 is backwards compatible with a500 ... BUT there is always some games which wont work unless you degrade with software like "RELOKICK" etc..

if you have a hdd then you can use stuff like " WHDLOAD "  check the site at Whdload.de  ...

perfect tool to play classic games on any amiga...


oh and...yes EMU suxx...cool that you want to use the real thing..
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 06, 2003, 12:51:28 PM

Thanks man, i was beginning to think i was sad for not wanting to use an emulator, i hate them!! grrrr

The real dilema is, i spent a couple years gathering together all the games i used to love in ADF, but really dont like playing them on an emu. Wanted a real Amiga again and couldent get any games i wanted on it, madness!

My ultimate question is, can you get ADF's back onto a rea; Amiga with relitive ease, and if so how?

Many thanks to you all ;-)
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: GiGa on December 06, 2003, 01:18:11 PM
To put the ADFs onto amiga disks you need to first transfer them to the amiga (using floppy disks or PC2Amiga software and a laplink [null modem] cable).

Once they are on the amiga you need to downloada  program called ADF Blitzer which will then allow you to make the ADF file into a readble amiga formatted floppy disk.

Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 06, 2003, 01:40:27 PM

Thanks man thats good advice. So if i put the ADF's on a disk, what format should the disk be?

Thanks again
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: godspeed on December 06, 2003, 01:41:17 PM

Oh and do i download ADF blitzer on my pc first?
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, please help!
Post by: Ryu on December 06, 2003, 01:45:35 PM
Id say the easiest way to get your ADF games over to you Amiga is by getting yourself a Catweasel Flipper. This is a PCI card that allows you to use an amiga floppy drive on your PC... so then you can unadf them on the PC side directly to an amiga floppy, then you can pop the floppy into your real amiga and off you go... you can get some more info from:

http://www.jschoenfeld.de/products/cwmk3_e.htm
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, Cd-drive
Post by: jonnyboy on December 06, 2003, 01:53:41 PM
Or, you could get hold of a cheap modem (I use a MagicXpress) and get hold of an Amiga browser such as IBrowse or Voyager and download games files from there. But if you have a lot of ADFs on your PC hard disk then the above solution is applicable. But make sure they're legal! There are still developers making stuff for the Amiga, and not everything is yet classified as "abandonware".
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, Cd-drive
Post by: godspeed on December 06, 2003, 02:16:21 PM

Right ok thanks chaps. Tell me, anthing with .LHA on the end. Thats for use with a real Amiga??
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, Cd-drive
Post by: alx on December 06, 2003, 02:37:48 PM
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godspeed wrote:

Right ok thanks chaps. Tell me, anthing with .LHA on the end. Thats for use with a real Amiga??


LHA is a form of compression, like ZIP, but mainly used on the Amiga (although some PC programs like UltimateZip can load them).  You can grab LHA from Aminet here (http://www.aminet.net/util/arc/LhA.run) as a self extracting archive - once extracted and moved somewhere, you can call it from the CLI (you could also download a GUI seperately)
Title: Re: Questions about the A1200, Cd-drive
Post by: godspeed on December 06, 2003, 04:56:27 PM

Excellent, im learning all the time! Next question:-

How do i use HD games with WinUAE. For example this fine game;
http://www.amigagames.com/gage/m/megaball-aga.html