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Title: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Franko on October 18, 2010, 06:13:39 AM
If you had to choose one new piece of software that you would like to see written for the Amiga what type would it be... :)

1. New Games
2. New Web Browser
3. New Art/GFX Package
4. New USB Drivers
5. New Printer Drivers
6. New Audio Utilities
7. New Video Utilities
8. New FileSytem For HD/CD/DVD
9. Other
10. Something That's Never Been Done Before !!!
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: ChaosLord on October 18, 2010, 06:26:34 AM
All the above :D
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Franko on October 18, 2010, 06:30:30 AM
Quote from: ChaosLord;585450
All the above :D


I agree... :)

Just thought I'd see what folk would really want the most, as I haven't written anything for a long while and thought I'd see what folk are really looking for... :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Marcb on October 18, 2010, 06:49:22 AM
Ideally all of the above but if I could have only 1, then I'd like printer drivers!
 
The rest I can make do with what we already have but I'd like to print from the Amigas instead of going through WinUae...
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: runequester on October 18, 2010, 07:27:47 AM
Turn based strategy games, but I imagine a web browser that "understands" CSS might be handy too
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: ognix on October 18, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
Well, I voted for a new/updated Web browser because I think it's the most important piece of software Amiga would need nowadays (even and especially 68k).
But I'd love to see more gfx, video and audio (especially) new modern applications.

C U!
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: yssing on October 18, 2010, 12:31:39 PM
New webbrowser +1 ,  but I would really like to se new games.
Turnbased strategy games, a lá battle isle. But really also a new and updated settlers game. OpenGL based:)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: ChaosLord on October 18, 2010, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: runequester;585456
Turn based strategy games,
I am working on a new Turn Based Strategy game just for u. :idea:

It involves LaserTanks, Cannons, UFOs, Rocket Cars and Smelly Green Aliens from Planet 27b/6. :D

Secret Hint to RuneQuester: Its 2010, time to get more ram :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: yssing on October 18, 2010, 01:11:49 PM
You are one of my heroes... :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: ChaosLord on October 18, 2010, 02:01:45 PM
@yssing
How much ram do you have on your Amiga?
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: commodorejohn on October 18, 2010, 03:13:13 PM
I'd like to see new games written for unexpanded OCS Amigas. Some of us aren't running on PPC-accelerated AGA machines with SDL, y'know :/ But hey, at least it gives me an opportunity :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: ferrellsl on October 18, 2010, 03:18:05 PM
What about some productivity software?  A decent word processor, spreadsheet and presentation program are sorely lacking.  Did you leave that out of the poll purposely?
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Tension on October 18, 2010, 03:24:07 PM
My Amigas are USELESS without a decent browser!!

Simple!
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Heiroglyph on October 18, 2010, 03:26:05 PM
I chose other but I was really close to saying web browser.

I'd like to see an open rtg standard for OS3.x.  We're on lock down in the 90's as it is.

No new drivers, no DDC configuration, no future.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: commodorejohn on October 18, 2010, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: ferrellsl;585506
What about some productivity software?  A decent word processor, spreadsheet and presentation program are sorely lacking.  Did you leave that out of the poll purposely?
Wait. People actually use those things? I mean, besides because the mucky-mucks at the office said everything has to be handed in in Word format?
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: motrucker on October 18, 2010, 03:46:22 PM
I guess I am a die hard, since I still use my Amigas for graphics work (along with my Windows machine). But software is really dated for the Amiga.
A good browser is at the top of the list, but we could use almost everything you can think of. As much as I like the Amiga, it has slipped to my second computer these days...
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: ferrellsl on October 18, 2010, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;585511
Wait. People actually use those things? I mean, besides because the mucky-mucks at the office said everything has to be handed in in Word format?



Yes, hence the reason why most people view the Amiga as an antiquated toy for fanatical hobbyists with too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Gulliver on October 18, 2010, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: commodorejohn;585511
Wait. People actually use those things? I mean, besides because the mucky-mucks at the office said everything has to be handed in in Word format?


If we had an upto date web browser, we could even use Google docs.
Of course, I voted for a modern web browser for 68k & PPC that doesnt require as minimum a 060 or PPC and a ton of ram!
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Tripitaka on October 18, 2010, 05:38:19 PM
Chaos Engine 3, A DVD Maestro clone and yes ...a more up to date browser. For graphics at least we have GIMP on Amicygnix. A 68K GIMPalike? That would be nice too. Let's face it, the list is endless. However, my vote goes to making a new RPG toolkit, to allow non-coders to bake some RPGs. TBH game making toolkits as a whole would be fun. If it's done right award winning games can still be made on Amiga. It's a shame Darwinia, Defcon and Uplink are not Amiga games, they show just what can be done with moderate computing power. Having said that, I appreciate all efforts made for new 'miggy software. It takes some real drive to make that sort of effort.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: ChaosLord on October 18, 2010, 06:04:03 PM
Quote from: Tripitaka;585529
my vote goes to making a new RPG toolkit, to allow non-coders to bake some RPGs.

Okay, I will code an RPG toolkit into Total Chaos AGA just 4 u :)

I have also been planning to create a new Vegetarian unit (or statistic) or something based on you.  I wanted to call it "Tripitaka" but I have no idea what that actually means so I was then leaning towards giving it a darkly mysterious name such as "Vegetarian".

Vegetarian*
The Vegetarian refuses to attack or eat any animals but it deals a lot of damage vs. helpless vegetables and minerals.

The Vegetarian is greatly feared by Rocks, Trees, Walls, Plants and Machinery.

When a Vegetarian makes 3 kills it becomes Triptaka the Veggie Hero.

Or something like that. :)


Only trouble is that all my spare gfx are dudes with swords.  We will hafta come up with a gfx that fights with a fork or spoon.  Or maybe a lawnmower.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Tripitaka on October 18, 2010, 08:14:54 PM
LMAO, I'm flattered!

Tripitaka is a traditional term used by various Buddhist sects to describe their various canons of scriptures as well as the name of the monk in the TV martial arts adventure series "Monkey".
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: marcfrick2112 on October 18, 2010, 09:46:10 PM
Oh Man, I'd also say we need 'all of it' LOL!

Definitely, a modern web browser of 68K machines is needed...:hammer:

I know, people think I'm nuts for still doin' 3D rendering on my miggies.....

But I'd love to see a new 3D package for the Amiga... ideally load/save LW and Imagine objects/scenes, RTG and PPC support, AREXX port, network rendering, IK, particle system.... Maybe different rendering techniques could be offered... Radiosity, anyone?

Then all I need is a few network cards for my miggies... :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: mpiva on October 18, 2010, 10:00:39 PM
Quote from: ferrellsl;585506
What about some productivity software?  A decent word processor, spreadsheet and presentation program are sorely lacking.  Did you leave that out of the poll purposely?



  I agree.  I want a decent Word Processor (my personal preference would be for a Final Writer remake that's been brought up-to-date).  I still generally would rather do my writing in Final Writer on WinUAE than in MS Word.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Franko on October 18, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
Does anyone know if any of the current 68k Amiga browsers are open source. I fancy having a go at either improving or writing one myself... :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: kolla on October 18, 2010, 10:06:50 PM
AWeb is open source, I think http://www.greyhound-data.com/gunnar/aweb/ is as close as you get to the sources currently, as http://aweb.sunsite.dk/ no longer has it.  http://www.xs4all.nl/~yrozijn/aweb/index.html appearantly has sources.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Franko on October 18, 2010, 10:10:38 PM
Quote from: kolla;585581
AWeb is open source, I think http://www.greyhound-data.com/gunnar/aweb/ is as close as you get to the sources currently, as http://aweb.sunsite.dk/ no longer has it.  http://www.xs4all.nl/~yrozijn/aweb/index.html appearantly has sources.


Thanks for that Kolla, I've just downloaded them and will check them out later... :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: kolla on October 18, 2010, 10:15:23 PM
I'm quite sure that there are newer sources somewhere, but I don't know where :(

My personal "most wanted" is an updated "ROM-able" kingcon for 68000, still - I think Cosmos is fiddling with it, but I don't know if he managed to pull it off yet :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Gulliver on October 19, 2010, 03:09:42 AM
Quote from: kolla;585584
I'm quite sure that there are newer sources somewhere, but I don't know where :(


The newest sources of AWeb, Aweb 3.5.10 ;)
http://amigan.1emu.net/aw/aweb-src.rar
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: SamuraiCrow on October 20, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
I voted Other for programming environments.  The others won't be possible until we get this show going on the right feet.  Then I can use the programming environment to write games with!
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: jsixis on October 21, 2010, 04:53:52 AM
I would love a working browser for a 68k machine OS3.1
 I miss being able to download files directly to my 3000T
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: jsixis on October 21, 2010, 04:55:08 AM
what is an src.rar file?
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Tripitaka on October 21, 2010, 05:13:20 AM
An abbreviation used to denote source code that has been archived as a .rar file.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Franko on October 21, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
@ kolla
Unfortunately the using the links you provided only resulted in the actual programs themselves being downloaded and not the source code, thanks anyway, I'll just need to scour the net and see if I can find them somewhere else. :)

@ Gulliver
I tried the link you provided thank you, but all I got on my browser screen was a load of ascii, it looks like the actual data contents of the rar file, but for some reason I can't download it. any ideas... :)
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: SamuraiCrow on October 21, 2010, 07:29:11 PM
@Franko

Try right-clicking the link and using the "Save Target As..." or similar option.
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: yssing on October 21, 2010, 09:22:02 PM
Quote from: ChaosLord;585496
@yssing
How much ram do you have on your Amiga?


Right now I have 146 megabyte fast ram in My A1200
Title: Re: Which Type Of New Software...
Post by: Franko on October 22, 2010, 04:32:11 PM
Quote from: SamuraiCrow;586111
@Franko

Try right-clicking the link and using the "Save Target As..." or similar option.


Thanks for that tip, it worked... :)

Unfortunately the source code is in C(rap)... :(

I don't like C code, far too bloated and messy stuff and the compiled results are just as bad... :(

Now that I know AWeb's open source I'll just have to disassemble it with ReSource and work with the proper A68k code. If nothing else I should be able to optimize it a bit as it was originally written in C (yuk)... :)