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Title: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: arttu80 on October 16, 2010, 11:45:30 PM
Well, this is weird. Maybe it's weird because I don't get it..

My setup: A1200 /030/Idivision AGA OS3.1, 4GB CF-drive (2 equally sized partitions)

My problem:

When I run some games or demos off my dh1: partition, WHDLoad stalls and throw some errors, but if I copy same games  or demos to dh0: partition, it works fine. Why is it so?

For example Alien Breed game goes out before main menu appears with WHDLoad error; Exception "Address Error" ($B00C) ar $17F95BA2 (ExpMem $21BA2) occured.

Or second example Nexus 7 by Andromeda Demo stalls before begins with error; The data/disk-files are damaged or it is an unsupported version

But if I copy these files to dh0: they work fine! Strange.

So, can anyone tell me what's the problem?
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: fitzsteve on October 16, 2010, 11:54:59 PM
Sounds like 'Max Transfer' problem it should be 0x1FE00

Try that in HDToolbox and see if it helps :)
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: Franko on October 16, 2010, 11:57:25 PM
That is weird, I can run WHDLoad games from any one of the 30 different partitions on my two HDs and never have any problems like that, do you have problems with any other software or data stored on DH1: or is it just with WHDLoad stuff...

(reckon it may be your HD, think fitzsteve's advice may be right...)
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: kickstart on October 17, 2010, 12:29:52 AM
30 partitions best way to lost a file :P
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: Franko on October 17, 2010, 01:01:41 AM
Quote from: kickstart;585186
30 partitions best way to lost a file :p


Actually it's a lot safer that way, everything is categorized and should something go wrong with a partition you don't lose everything stored on your HD and it's easily backed up from DVD... :)
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: fitzsteve on October 17, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Franko;585176
That is weird, I can run WHDLoad games from any one of the 30 different partitions on my two HDs and never have any problems like that, do you have problems with any other software or data stored on DH1: or is it just with WHDLoad stuff...

(reckon it may be your HD, think fitzsteve's advice may be right...)

More evidence is that its large files that he is loading that are crashing, again pointing to Max Transfer issue.
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: Franko on October 17, 2010, 01:08:02 AM
Quote from: fitzsteve;585195
More evidence is that its large files that he is loading that are crashing, again pointing to Max Transfer issue.


I see he's using one of those 4GB compact flash drives, they are nothing but problematic to say the least, to get up and running correctly if you don't set the Max Transfer right.
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: kickstart on October 17, 2010, 01:32:26 AM
too many people using compact flash cards like hd for say that are problematic.
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: arttu80 on October 17, 2010, 09:16:41 AM
Quote from: fitzsteve;585174
Sounds like 'Max Transfer' problem it should be 0x1FE00

Try that in HDToolbox and see if it helps :)



Wow, that really helped, your THE man, thanks a lot!!! It's so soothing to know the real help is right here, my favorite forum.
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: mrmoonlight on October 17, 2010, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: kickstart;585200
too many people using compact flash cards like hd for say that are problematic.
   
 
 Hi kickstart,Franko has a valid point,the cf card hard drive is ok if its set up right ,but even then it can be troublesome ,i have one fitted in my 1200 amiga ,and a 20gb seagate normal hd fitted in my other 1200 Amiga and i have to say the normal seagate hd is better ,best wishes Brian:):):)
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: fitzsteve on October 17, 2010, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: arttu80;585249
Wow, that really helped, your THE man, thanks a lot!!! It's so soothing to know the real help is right here, my favorite forum.

Great news, thanks for letting us know its fixed :afro:
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: tone007 on October 17, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
I've put CF hard drives in a couple machines and never had any issues with WHDLoad, and never had to mess with any MaxTransfer settings.
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: fitzsteve on October 17, 2010, 01:15:29 PM
Quote from: tone007;585268
I've put CF hard drives in a couple machines and never had any issues with WHDLoad, and never had to mess with any MaxTransfer settings.

It depends what HD Tools you use, some set it correct like the one from OS3.9

Its the WB3.x HDToolbox that likes to set it wrong for CF cards.

Or maybe you just play small 1 disk games that are not loading large files?

Try Alien Breed 3D 2 :hat:
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: kickstart on October 17, 2010, 08:34:59 PM
There is one hdtoolbox "fixed" for cf cards.
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: actung_bab on October 17, 2010, 11:28:57 PM
thanks for that mate going set my transfer in my compact flash to that
l remember way back doing that on hard drive for some reason
maybe its reason my cnet bbs acting real werid never had problems in past cool your made
my day dam machine was locking up on boot up alot was driving me crazy
chouldint work it out should l change the block size from 512 l do remmebr something about
that ages ago saves the writing to the hd
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: magnetic on October 18, 2010, 12:55:31 AM
Hey guys
I'm new to WHD load dont mean to hijack the thread but maybe u guys have an opion on this. I have it configured and running nicely on my ntsc cbm 1d1 a1200 wtih ematrix 030@50mhz 16mb with Classicwb advn. I'm able to run games but some of them the sound doesnt work or works sproadically. My favorite game Neuromancer crashes a lot to with a "privledge exception" error. And the music only works for the title screen, then when i load a game, no music..

i was also unable to get any Dragons lair games to run and some other probs too..

any help tips with this?
tia
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: tone007 on October 18, 2010, 01:00:41 AM
One thing about the NTSC machines, you'll definitely want to make sure you're booted into PAL mode for the majority of games available online, they're mostly PAL friendly.

I had plenty of games that wouldn't run if I didn't use the two finger salute and pick PAL mode in the early startup menu.

Never came across a "no music" issue, though, that might be something else.
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: Franko on October 18, 2010, 01:28:41 AM
On one of my old A1200s with a GVP030 board all games run fine including the one's you've mentioned, the the only thing I can suggest is you set the ToolTypes/Options for all your WHDLoad games to NoCache & PreLoad, as these the options I use for running most games without any problems. :)
Title: Re: WHDLoad odd problem?
Post by: magnetic on October 20, 2010, 01:07:11 AM
thanks for the tips guys. Neuromancer is one of my fav games of all time.. i really want the cool DEVO soundtrack :)