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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: tone007 on October 16, 2010, 02:16:17 AM
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..aside from OS4.0, since I'm not about to spend that much on an OS for a machine I don't have an RTG board for.
What's awesome and requires PPC on
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The coolest thing? You could give it to me!
Someone had to say it ;)
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I was waiting for "sell it," but that's a last resort.
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What's awesome and requires PPC on
With a bvision you can watch a good demo (http://ada.untergrund.net/?p=demo&i=169) or two, but without RTG I can't think of anything exceptional.
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..aside from OS4.0, since I'm not about to spend that much on an OS for a machine I don't have an RTG board for.
What's awesome and requires PPC on
Don't know what speed your card is, using my Blizzard060/PPC @ 60/240Mhz other than OS4.0 (which I don't use very much), on OS 3.1 & OS 3.5 I mainly use Lame for making MP3s, A version of Frodo (the C64 emulator) that runs at full frame rate & full speed for 99% of the games and all without an RTG graphics board. (there are other PPC prog I use, but I can't remember them off the top of my head at the moment) :)
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sell it to me for dollar hehe
quake runs cool on the blizzard ppc with aga l have archive if you want it
also use amiamp though ahi to play mp3s
lots things can run fast on ppc side
wipeout game etc
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Dipping it in liquid hydrogen is about the coolest thing I can think of.
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I was waiting for "sell it," but that's a last resort.
Probably the best choice, then take the money and get a SAM460 & OS4.1.2, or a used G4 PowerMac & MorphOS2.6, or start looking into AROS on the PC. Unless you are only interested in AmigaOS3.1>3.9, then keep it and use it for that.
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Dipping it in liquid hydrogen is about the coolest thing I can think of.
...liquid Helium? That's a little bit cooler!
What's awesome and requires PPC on
Well, since you mentioned RTG, I would actually suggest that connecting a BVision and running RTG stuff is amoungst the most awesome things you can do with a BPPC card, at least for a desktop machine.
I don't know if you're an app or a game man (I'm more of an app man myself) but there are a couple of pretty decent games that can take advantage of a BPPC/RTG set up. I used to really love Payback on my A1200 tower machine, with a BPPC@240 and a Voodoo3 RTG card the graphics and effects were truly awesome.
If you're an app man like me, then just running workbench and all your applications with a BPPC/RTG combination is a much much more awesome experience than AGA.
I've never run OS4 on a classic machine (though I plan to once I can get my BPPC cards working again) so I can't comment on what that's like...
AH.
AH.
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If you keep this card its truely a waste in AGA, you should think about RTG and enjoy everything this great card can offer.
Either a Blizzard Vision or Tower it like I have with Voodoo3 & Mediator PCI setup - check out my Youtube page for the Quake 2 running in MiniGL :afro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEmjuOSBrIY
Steve.
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Well, the most awesome thing you can probably do on it is use it to speed up everyday stuff on your Amiga. There quite some PPC builds of everyday tools (archivers, mp3, etc) that you can install on your system and use in place of the "regular" 68K tools.
That should make your system faster in overall daily use.
Other than that, sell it while it still works and buy a nice laptop or iPad for the amount you sell it for ;-)
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sell it while it still works
That thought accompanies every piece of valuable Amiga hardware I've had, and generally wins.
I've already got an AmigaOne for OS 4.1, but I guess having RTG in a desktop 1200 would still be pretty cool (or hot, really.) Maybe I'll just wait a couple of months and if no BVision falls from the sky I'll think about giving up on it.
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Join team amiga and use it to break keys
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having a BPPC card and no BVision??? what the heck is that about?? get that BVision and run RTG stuff now, it is the coolest you can do on a oldskool amiga....
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Turn it into a bong! Only joking kids cos remember, drugs are bad.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEmjuOSBrIY
:cool:
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I remember that one version of ImageFX took advantage of the ppc.
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That thought accompanies every piece of valuable Amiga hardware I've had, and generally wins.
Right, but the value of the CS PPC is insane compared to the prices you pay for any other Amiga related item.
For a 'normal' going price of a CSPPC you can get an A4000D in nice condition, decent 68040 accelerator, RTG card, Indivision AGA and maybe a Deneb... that does not justify the CS PPC for me in any way (except for OS4 - for which I don't care).
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having a BPPC card and no BVision??? what the heck is that about?? get that BVision and run RTG stuff now, it is the coolest you can do on a oldskool amiga....
I've had my BPPC for about six years now with no RTG card... Trying to get hold of one is more difficult than finding a decent program to watch on the BBC on a Sunday morning... :(
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I've had my BPPC for about six years now with no RTG card... Trying to get hold of one is more difficult than finding a decent program to watch on the BBC on a Sunday morning... :(
Whats wrong with Match of the Day?
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Whats wrong with Match of the Day?
We don't get Match of the Day here in Scotland...
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I've never run OS4 on a classic machine (though I plan to once I can get my BPPC cards working again) so I can't comment on what that's like...
OS4.1 on BPPC/240/256 with BVision is VERY NICE!!! :)
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OS4.1 on BPPC/240/256 with BVision is VERY NICE!!! :)
I thought classic only got up to OS4.0.
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I thought classic only got up to OS4.0.
I thought so too. I've often expressed an opinion that I'd like to see OS4.1 for classics, if it's not too much trouble for Hyperion to do so, but my understanding is they haven't (yet) and they've neither confirmed or denied that there ever will be an update for classics. Last I heard they were reviewing it.
AH.
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You can run morphos too
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You can run morphos too
I thought that required an RTG board, otherwise I probably would've tried it.
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Amiga OS4.0 on a Blizzard060/PPC @60/240Mhz, is like running your Amiga on chipmem only. Windows & icons are dreadfully slow to display on a 640x512 screen, not to mention the amount of crashes with JIT when running a lot of older Amiga Software.
Also a lot of the software for it requires a much bigger screensize (although you can slide windows on and of the screen) it's really quite annoying when a window opens up and you have to move it all over the place just to be able to use it. You can run an emulator like Frodo faster and better on the 060 side using OS3.x.
If you're going to run OS4.0 on this type of board without an RTG then expect to be quite disappointed, also Hyperion last updated it in 2007 not long after it was released and seem to have dropped support for it since. OS4.1 will not run on a classic Amiga set up.
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I thought classic only got up to OS4.0.
It did for lay people. :)
OS4.1 Beta for Classic is alive and well though.
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OS4.1 will not run on a classic Amiga set up.
I was using just last weekend and I daresay I'll probably be doing so tomorrow evening too. :)
Don't be fooled by the signature.
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I was massively disappointed with my bppc card when it worked. I'd have prefered an '060 card as at least it wouldve benefitted everyday use. Being restricted to a handful of ppc software it's a very expensive proposition, and somewhat useless for something like os4.x or MOS (way too slow for "modern computing use... sure the OSes run ok, but modern software still needs more resources than this sort of retro gear can provide, stick with old 68k type software and youre fine, but in that case why use the ppc at all?). There was a handful of software that ppc was good for (heretic2/wipoeout2097/some emulators (c64/snes/megadrive/mame/mess/etc)/mp3 player/mp3 decoding/videos), but mostly the '040 got in the way. In short, the experience wasnt what I was hoping (although '060+ppc mightve been a better experience,.... bppc '040 left you wanting(Even with RTG (I had a grex a1200 and voodoo3)).
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Personally I'd either get an RTG card and run OS 4.0 on your PPC or forget you've even got a PPC (unless you're into games..Wipeout 2097 etc).
I run OS 4.0 on a Cyberstorm 233MHz at 1920x1080 via a CVPPC and it's plenty fast for me. Icons are drawn fast...the only major slowdown is when dragging a busy window (i.e. OWB) but, other than that, I'm more than happy with the performance. That's with 128MB RAM which I consider a must have as I frequently get down to < 60MB free...the OS/software either leak like a bugger or it's got some sort of lazy garbage collection.
Did have a couple of AmigaOnes but got bored to death with OS 4.1 and, for me at least, it never felt like an Amiga...just another computer to get frustrated at over the weekend that had an OS that reminded me of the 68k Amigas. At least with a PPC classic you can use OS 4.x and still be on a real Amiga which, for me at least, is important.
To be honest, unless I'm booting 4.0 I forget I've even got a PPC unless I run SysSpeed or WhichAmiga which jolts my memory for me. They're fun to have and fun to own but, for all intents and purposes, I'm certain they only sell for the money they do because they're the bees knees for classic Amigas. Whether you actually use that functionality is entirely a different story and, if people took a real hard look at them and what they offer, the price would be nowhere near as high imo.
But that's just my opinion. I was hoping this thread would turn up some little gems and show my ignorance on the matter but, thus far, nothing seems to have appeared to change my mind.
As an aside it would be an interesting poll to see how many people with PPC accelerators use the PPC on a regular basis. I suspect more than a few would have used it once to maybe verify it was working or 'have a play' but forgot about it since and stuck with 68k.
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yeah, so many coolest posts.
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We don't get Match of the Day here in Scotland...
Well you could if you got Sky . Sky has all the versions of BBC1 and BBC2 and ITV
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Oh and is MOTD on BBC iplayer ?
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To be honest, unless I'm booting 4.0 I forget I've even got a PPC unless I run SysSpeed or WhichAmiga which jolts my memory for me. They're fun to have and fun to own but, for all intents and purposes, I'm certain they only sell for the money they do because they're the bees knees for classic Amigas. Whether you actually use that functionality is entirely a different story and, if people took a real hard look at them and what they offer, the price would be nowhere near as high imo.
Just go back to 68K only datatypes, media players etc. You'll soon remember. Alternatively, if you already are using those, try their PPC counterparts.
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What's wrong with keeping the card?. If i had a bppc i wouldn't let it go.
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I've decided to not be a computer collector, so if I can't find a use for it I'd rather not have it.
This PPC datatypes thing for OS3.9 sounds interesting, especially if it could make web browsing quicker...