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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Jose on December 05, 2003, 12:31:31 AM
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So, I've read that the torque with wich you mount an HD on each corner can have catastrophic consequences if very uneven, or something....
Being mounting a travelstar in my A1200 at this very moment I decided to stop and ask, because I was gonna use only two screws (the A1200 HD mouting surface doesn't have the right spacing).
Any suggestious beside the obvious one of making two more mounting holes? Some adapter?
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If you're using the A1200 mounting cradle then I assume you're installing a 2.5" drive. If that's the case, these things are designed for laptop use and so are more resistant to torque, tilt and vibration.
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Yap, that's the deal. I read somewhere that it's more advisable to have it mounted corrctly.
Probably if it's not well balanced or something some parts of the HD may wear faster than others and lower the lifetime of it ?
Guess I'm gonna need to buy some drills...
Has somebody did that?
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Nah, don't bother drilling new holes. The drives are far more robust than desktop drives (they're desiged to be shaken, moved around, etc. -- they are made for mobile devices after all).
All you need to do to ensure you're safe is to insulate the cradle near the rightmost part with a strip of electrical tape. Some notebook drives have components that might touch the end of the cradle when they're mounted with the only two screws that line up.
I know what you mean by the holes not lining up, some drives have a different screw placement (actually all newer drives have a different placement than older laptop drives) this does not effect the functionality and reliability of these drives in an Amiga 1200 in any way.
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@voytech
LOL! Ok I get the message :-D
I can give you the page where I read that if I find it. I 'm not up to date with recent HD's so....
Maybe there should be a pick up of the most weird /lame questions that have been asked. Should be a good read. Some of mine included :-D
Not that I was gonna drill the motherboard and processor :-P
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Jose wrote:
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Not that I was gonna drill the motherboard and processor :-P
I know, I know :-D
BTW, that is a real story, one of my friends worked in cmopu shop service, he told me bout that, even showed me that poor 'puter (not that I'm after pc's, but...), that's a shame we didn't make a photo of it..
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My favorite real story (related to me by Jesse Wong who I worked with at AST) was the lady who called the tech support people at Packard Bell with a "broken coffee cup holder" and demanded it be replaced under warranty. Tech support had no idea what "part" she was talking about and referred it to marketing. After this support question was forwarded around the offices trying to find out if there ever was such a promotion as a coffee cup holder for any Packard Bell machine sold, she was asked to describe what was "obviously" 3rd party accessory.
"It's on the front of my machine, it's tan l ike the rest of the computer so I KNOW IT'S FROM YOU PEOPLE. There is a button you press that makes it come out so you can set your cup on it, and you push it again to make it go back in when you aren't using it. But now it won't go back in, it's broken and I want a new one. This computer has a 3 year warranty you know."
She was using her CDROM tray as a coffee cup stand...
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I've drilled new holes in all of mine to mount it correctly. If you use the existing holes the drive will be hanging off the edge of the tray. It takes a few minutes to do the job right. (that said I ran out of space in my A1200 and I now have it mounted with tape, but...)
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You clever guy!
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i found this which is slightly off topic, but ever wanted to have a silent A1200? no drives buzzing or clattering away....
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/ituner_1758_1009721)
and sizes up to 4Gb (over 512Mb / 1Gb prices go crazy for compact flash cards)
Minibox.com (http://www.mini-box.com/cfadapter.htm)
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Yap, that's the deal. I read somewhere that it's more advisable to have it mounted corrctly.
A couple of months ago I needed to mount my new 3.5" Western Digital HD vertically instead of horizontally in my PC as is normal. I checked with Western Digital about this and how it would affect the drive and they said that it doesn't matter at all how you mount it, you can mount it anyway you like, even upside down if you wish without any consequences for the drive whatsoever.
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Speaking of funny stories, one good friend of mine is a student soooo poor, that after his cooling fan died, he didn't have money to buy a new one, so he found a new way of cooling his CPU... watercooling!!! He placed a sealed, water-filled nylon bag on top of the heatsink! It has been working great for a couple or three days, until a hole was cut on the bag........ ouch :-x !
edit: forgot to say, he had all the components spread on the desk!
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Van_M wrote:
Speaking of funny stories, one good friend of mine is a student soooo poor, that after his cooling fan died, he didn't have money to buy a new one, so he found a new way of cooling his CPU... watercooling!!! He placed a sealed, water-filled nylon bag on top of the heatsink! It has been working great for a couple or three days, until a hole was cut on the bag........ ouch :-x !
edit: forgot to say, he had all the components spread on the desk!
... I'm just shaking my head in disbelief ... that's just so amazingly stupid ...
Oh well. Sorry if someone feels offended now, but seriously. Common sense is something that everyone has.. Just stop to think for a while.
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Casper wrote:
Yap, that's the deal. I read somewhere that it's more advisable to have it mounted corrctly.
A couple of months ago I needed to mount my new 3.5" Western Digital HD vertically instead of horizontally in my PC as is normal. I checked with Western Digital about this and how it would affect the drive and they said that it doesn't matter at all how you mount it, you can mount it anyway you like, even upside down if you wish without any consequences for the drive whatsoever.
Yep ;-) I used my old 20GB drive to "hang on" cables, lay in "belly up" position, stand position, think every possible positions, and it still rocks
:-D
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i found this which is slightly off topic, but ever wanted to have a silent A1200? no drives buzzing or clattering away....
They are good i have a cf to ide adaptor fast as well. :-)
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Both my Compaq Deskpros came with the HD mounted on its side.
I hope you're talking bout drilling the case and not the HD, 'cause I reckon the drill vibrations would do more damage than it will suffer from being installed in a strange position...
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This is the easiest water cooling i have seen http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13793 (http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13793)
(http://download.qtec.info/_images/products/normal/13793.gif)
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darksun9210 wrote:
i found this which is slightly off topic, but ever wanted to have a silent A1200? no drives buzzing or clattering away....
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/ituner_1758_1009721)
and sizes up to 4Gb (over 512Mb / 1Gb prices go crazy for compact flash cards)
Minibox.com (http://www.mini-box.com/cfadapter.htm)
I'm wondering what's the lifetime os such disks??
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voytech wrote:
darksun9210 wrote:
i found this which is slightly off topic, but ever wanted to have a silent A1200? no drives buzzing or clattering away....
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/ituner_1758_1009721)
and sizes up to 4Gb (over 512Mb / 1Gb prices go crazy for compact flash cards)
Minibox.com (http://www.mini-box.com/cfadapter.htm)
I'm wondering what's the lifetime os such disks??
60-70000 writes. Microdrives probably last longer.
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Hmm my Pee See has got 3 HDDs, all hanging in there by 1 screw, etc i dont think it matters tbh.. but i dunno :-)
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amigamad wrote:
This is the easiest water cooling i have seen http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13793 (http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13793)
damn! if only i'd have known about this when i had my cyberstorm! :-D
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Quote: Van_M wrote: Speaking of funny stories, one good friend of mine is a student soooo poor, that after his cooling fan died, he didn't have money to buy a new one, so he found a new way of cooling his CPU... watercooling!!! He placed a sealed, water-filled nylon bag on top of the heatsink! It has been working great for a couple or three days, until a hole was cut on the bag........ ouch :-x ! edit: forgot to say, he had all the components spread on the desk!
... I'm just shaking my head in disbelief ... that's just so amazingly stupid ... Oh well. Sorry if someone feels offended now, but seriously. Common sense is something that everyone has.. Just stop to think for a while.
If you think that everyone has common sense, you better think again! You probably don't know of any Greek students in the UK.... In another occasion, this guy had no belt for his trousers and was using a computer mouse as one!!! He was tying the cable around his waist and kept the mouse in the pocket....now you probably understand of what type of person I'm talking about! Anyway, the hardware was already quite old by the time it happened, and I lend this guy an old mobo+CPU+RAM+PSU to get a system up & running again.... I might still have the photo of the ruined hardware....
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This reminds of something I read a while back..
Some guy wanted to upgrade his old computer, so he goes and buys a new , top of the range CPU (which at the time was a slot mounted P2).
He takes it home, fits it..doesn`t boot, he figures the CPU is faulty and phones the shop and complains, they tell him to bring the whole system in to look at.
When the shop tech opens the case, he couldn`t believe what he saw..the P2 was mounted in an ISA slot..
He told him that the CPU should go in the CPU slot...and this 486 didn`t couldn`t take slot type CPUs, and asks how he even managed to make it fit in the ISA slot..
"Well, it took me a while, but I eventually managed to file it down till it went in"
It goes without saying he didn`t get a refund.
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Well, I actually ended up drilling the mounting cradle to make the thing fit perfectly.... :-D Finally I have enouph HD space in my desktop A1200 (20Gb) :-o :-o :-D