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Title: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: mousehouse on October 04, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
Hi all,

This weekend I got around to watching the Hi8 video put together by Dave Haynie, "The Deathbed Vigil". I downloaded it somewhere, but it is also online at Google Video and other places.

The movie did "get to me" after a while. You follow Dave as he strolls through Commodore a day or two before the final day as he chats with some colleagues and gets some video footage.

Even after all these years you get the feeling of something great being lost, something of what computing was around the 80's and early 90's, and of the spirit of (engineering) people in this line of work around that time in the US.

Absolutely loved watching it - even though really nothing happens ;-)
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: tone007 on October 04, 2010, 07:26:15 PM
I couldn't make it halfway through, not because of emotional distress but because of the horribly unsteady camera, it gave me motion sickness.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: scuzzb494 on October 04, 2010, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: tone007;582927
I couldn't make it halfway through, not because of emotional distress but because of the horribly unsteady camera, it gave me motion sickness.


Probably caused by Aikido... The art of fighting without fighting. Bit obscure that.. Never sure if he was a fan or just had a clever T shirt.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: koshman on October 04, 2010, 08:37:56 PM
Yeag, it is a great documentary. So nostalgic...
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: mousehouse on October 04, 2010, 08:54:24 PM
Dave also briefly showed his desk with the A3000+ prototype that he was working on. Very nice...
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: kolla on October 04, 2010, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: tone007;582927
I couldn't make it halfway through, not because of emotional distress but because of the horribly unsteady camera, it gave me motion sickness.

Dave was just being visionary - later on NYPD Blue picked up this style of filming, and it spread to the point where the movie "The Bourne Ultimatum" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTejGH15FE) was ultimately almost impossible to follow, the cameraman seemingly suffering from multiple sclerosis :lol:
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: Tension on October 04, 2010, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: kolla;582936
Dave was just being visionary - later on NYPD Blue picked up this style of filming, and it spread to the point where the movie "The Bourne Ultimatum" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTejGH15FE) was ultimately almost impossible to follow, the cameraman seemingly suffering from multiple sclerosis :lol:


Southland is another fine example of camera antics.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: TheGoose on October 04, 2010, 09:21:51 PM
You know, I've never seen it. Will google it up.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: cecilia on October 04, 2010, 09:45:42 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6995843800661768793#

here ya go
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: lsmart on October 04, 2010, 10:11:31 PM
Quote from: tone007;582927
it gave me motion sickness.


Then don´t eat anything before watching the next Star Trek movie. :roflmao:
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: Pentad on October 04, 2010, 11:13:35 PM
When Dave was walking through Commodore, I wondered how it must have been when the Commodore Vic-20 and Commodore 64 were selling extremely well.  I bet the assembly area was pretty amazing to see.

I also thought about the people from West Chester that must have worked there in the 'glory days' of Commodore and what it must have been like for them when Commodore finally closed.  I bet that was pretty stressful for many families.

It was also hard not to think about the future and what Commodore could have done.  There were some truly brilliant people there like 'our boy Elroy' and Julian.  (Kidding, if you read the Commodore book you will get that).

Honestly, isn't it amazing the number of brilliant people that worked at Commodore?  Folks like Chuck Peddle, Bob Yannes, Bil Herd, Dave Haynie, the entire Amiga team, Al Chapentier, Charles Winterble, etc...

All those gifted people ruined by a handful of idiots...what a shame.  :-(

To make myself feel better, I like to think that in the alternate universe on the show Fringe, Commodore is doing very well.  :-)

I think both "The Deathbed Vigil" and "On the Edge" made me ponder the 'what ifs' with the future of Commodore.  Ah, what could have been...

Cheers to the spirit Commodore!

-P
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: AmigaEd on October 04, 2010, 11:36:39 PM
Quote from: lsmart;582948
Then don´t eat anything before watching the next Star Trek movie. :roflmao:


+1

Star Trek TOS intergalactic turbulence can't hold a candle to what Kirk and the gang apparently experienced in their early beginnings! I guess they must have made some improvements to the suspension system of the Enterprise and their 5 year mission continued.

For your consideration I present...

http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/32845623/inertial-dampeners_1031025413_32845623

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia_negation

Phasers on stun!
AmigaEd
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: tone007 on October 04, 2010, 11:37:48 PM
Quote from: lsmart;582948
Then don´t eat anything before watching the next Star Trek movie. :roflmao:


Star Trek?  Not much chance at all of me watching any of that.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: mousehouse on October 05, 2010, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: Pentad;582956

It was also hard not to think about the future and what Commodore could have done.  There were some truly brilliant people there like 'our boy Elroy' and Julian.  (Kidding, if you read the Commodore book you will get that).


Agreed, so many brilliant people... I wonder where they all ended up and if they succeeded in joining another successful group like this. It's what Haynie comments as well... something like "once in a lifetime you get the opportunity to do something extraordinary, etc etc".

Anyway,

The Commodore Book seems to be sold out at Amazon. Anybody have any tips where I can get my hands on it?
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: jj on October 05, 2010, 12:38:30 PM
For some reason when I upgraded my Amiga forever premium version I went for a premium again even thoguh nothing had changed between years so have two copies of all the videos on the dvds.  never got around to watching them
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: TCMSLP on October 05, 2010, 12:53:20 PM
The second edition of the book 'On the Edge' is due out any time now I believe ...
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: runequester on October 05, 2010, 05:41:14 PM
Quote from: TCMSLP;583026
The second edition of the book 'On the Edge' is due out any time now I believe ...


Id be all over that. THey tend to go for stupid high prices on Amazon used
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: tone007 on October 05, 2010, 07:15:11 PM
I thought the second edition was cancelled.  I'm happy with my typo-ridden first edition signed by the author.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: Rob on October 05, 2010, 08:28:41 PM
Quote from: tone007;583066
I thought the second edition was cancelled.  I'm happy with my typo-ridden first edition signed by the author.


I believe the second edition would have had additional chapters.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: Tension on October 06, 2010, 12:27:03 AM
Quote from: runequester;583046
THey tend to go for stupid high prices on Amazon used


Yes it can currently be had on ePay for a cool £83.70.

(or best offer :rolleyes: )
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: TheGoose on October 06, 2010, 02:41:17 AM
Oh mann. That is so creepy to me. At this time I was working at my father's place of employment, Nortel; in the cafeteria making fried chicken and hot dogs and other healthy stuff geeks would eat.

It looks like the same place and people, just another company. Lots of white socks and Reebok tennis shoes.

Some time later, Nortel collapsed too. Oh, Nortel invented ISDN; just like AAA chipset, oh LOL.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: actung_bab on October 06, 2010, 03:04:46 AM
yes it was good watch but remember alot factorys close its just life
look all british car companys gone none left know apart from lotus
didnt the show a floppy drive burried in a wall . am not surpised they pain in the bum.
Title: Re: Just watched "The Deadbed Vigil"...
Post by: Tension on October 06, 2010, 01:10:16 PM
Quote from: actung_bab;583156
yes it was good watch but remember alot factorys close its just life
look all british car companys gone none left know apart from lotus
didnt the show a floppy drive burried in a wall . am not surpised they pain in the bum.


Aaah yes... The Hedley Davis Memorial Disk Drive. He came on here not so long ago and explained it thusly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxfrWnLI-dc


Sorry I meant:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5849

Shame he didn't post again after that thread...