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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Crom00 on September 22, 2010, 11:27:30 PM
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I've seen posts on EAB and here about sme new jenns CPU cards. Wouldn't it be cool to see Power PC A1200 cards that undercut the high cost X1000 and Sam boards and Phaser 5 PPC cards. I mean talk about a decent installed base of users, there seem to be a decent number of us A1200ers. I think for many of us that would be a win win situation.
It would have to take the concept of the Ami-Joe and follow throught, that is a PowerPC solution with an 030 0r 020 emulation.
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It would be nice, and I would be interested.
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Might not be a "win-win" situation for the people making the X1000 & Sam boards!
But I doubt that Jenns is making a PPC board for the A1200, so I don't think they need to worry just yet.
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Nice news, when do they come out?
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Nice news, when do they come out?
They are 68030's with 64M RAM (32M for the A600 I believe).
He said he is shooting for out by Christmas (or in time for Christmas or??)..
desiv
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My current 030 card is 8 megs of RAM, so a new 64 meg card would be rad, particularly if the price isn't too crazy
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Wouldn't it be cool to see Power PC A1200 cards that undercut the high cost X1000 and Sam boards and Phaser 5 PPC cards. I mean talk about a decent installed base of users, there seem to be a decent number of us A1200ers. I think for many of us that would be a win win situation.
It would have to take the concept of the Ami-Joe and follow throught, that is a PowerPC solution with an 030 0r 020 emulation.
You're underestimating the cost of developing these things. Also, there would be need to write firmware and drivers for these things, and they don't write themselves. Without some major hacking you wouldn't be able to run powerup or warpup. OS4 and MorphOS won't run either.
Considering the limited audience I doubt it would be "win" for the party creating the devices.
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I dont know about PPC, but i honestly believe that if somebody had to produce well priced 68030 accelerator cards (under 100 euro) they would sell out.
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The fact is that you can`t easily produce a high clocked ppc A1200 without raising temperature in a stock A1200.
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Building an expansion for an A1200 which could rival even the bottom of the range Sam 440ep would not only cost a lot more than the Sam, but would also have to basically use the A1200 as a glorified keyboard and mouse adaptor. The rest of the system is just too slow.
Remember, if Phase 5 were charging £500 and were making PPC cards in the thousands, why would a new card with a tenth the market cost any less?
Trust me, new PPC cards are not going to happen. It makes zero sense both technologically and financially. 68030 cards, on the other hand are a different ball game entirely...
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I think there is too much people dreaming about PPC boards: if you go PPC you need an ugly tower to run anything without crashing because of the heat or low power, and you only get some PPC datatypes or unstable programms to use.
I have myself abandonned my Blizz PPC for years. 68k is really better for classic amiga. 68060 is the ideal CPU.
Hope that new affordable accelerators based on 060, with some extra features like RTG, sound card or fast USB, will be made in the future.
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Hope that new affordable accelerators based on 060, with some extra features like RTG, sound card or fast USB, will be made in the future.
You are talking about Natami. Sadly the Natami is not out yet. If it came 5 years ago, we would have different classic Amiga market today.
It is yet to be released to see what really it will bring on the hardware front.
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I dont know about PPC, but i honestly believe that if somebody had to produce well priced 68030 accelerator cards (under 100 euro) they would sell out.
I read in one of the posts that he is aiming at a synchronous card to keep costs low, eg. a card that runs at a multiple of 14.1MHz...
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What about new Toaster cards?
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What about new Toaster cards?
SO what about them? Adding toaster cards to a cpu card?
I like the 060 route and I love the Natami route but they move at the speed they move. Slower than I would like. IT's been 2 years or so since the website went live, and I remember seeing the other prototype for years here on Amiga.org.
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>I have myself abandonned my Blizz PPC for years
?!??!
With a BlizzPPC, you can put a BVision and use RTG in the A1200 Desktop...
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Does it not make any sense that if anything they produce an External PPC accelerator board that connects to the expansion slot using some sort of ribbon cable?
That way there would be no space or heat concerns and can reduce the cost of producing the card.
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External PPC accelerator board that connects to the expansion slot using some sort of ribbon cable?
Crosstalk = fail.