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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: AmigaMance on September 22, 2010, 09:06:06 PM
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This is about classic Amigas with or without a PPC, so please be realistic.
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Amiga 4000 68060 @80Mhz 256MB Ram ;)
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Amiga 4000 68060 @80Mhz 256MB Ram ;)
I think you misunderstood the question.
I have no idea, its actually an interesting question.
All ive tried was the Sega Mastersystem using my A4000 060 and it was a little too fast :P
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A 68k Mac, I guess...
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On this setup :-
A1200 Blizzard060/PPC 60Mhz/240Mhz / 256Mb Ram / 2 x 500GB HDs / 2 x DVD Burners / FASTATA MKIII / SubWay USB / Cocolino Wireless Mouse
A C64 running at full speed/frame rates (Frodo PPC Emulator)... :)
Tried various SNES emulators but waaay tooo slooow.... :(
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A CD32 is the best Game Console that a Classic Amiga can emulate. :)
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This is about classic Amigas with or without a PPC, so please be realistic.
Sort of surprised nobody has mentioned it but there is FPSE (http://www.amidog.com/amiga/fpse/index.html)...
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Sort of surprised nobody has mentioned it but there is FPSE (http://www.amidog.com/amiga/fpse/index.html)...
I'm not sure, but don't you need a gfx card to run that... :confused:
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interesting question but I think you have to narrow it down some, because of the different ways of emulation;
mame-type: complete disconnect from hardware, can run anything on anything but costly in resources. (I remember running a 4MHz z80 game on A1200 28MHz at around 1-2 fps)
wine/shapeshifter type: can run at full speed (probably need MMU) but must be same cpu.
mix (psx emulators etc.): full cpu emulation while passing things like 3d functions to a 3d card.
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I'm not sure, but don't you need a gfx card to run that... :confused:
Sure, but then again, you need a graphics card to do many interesting things on an Amiga that aren't really feasible on planar screens.
Emulating highcolour screens on AGA is extremely difficult. I've seen it done, of course, the SavageAGA EVD for ShapeShifter was capable of 15-bit RGB emulation via HAM, but it was pretty slow in all but the lowest resolutions.
Installing a graphics card actually made more difference to the everyday use and performance of my A1200 than the PPC card did.
A1200 Blizzard060/PPC 60Mhz/240Mhz
If that's your configuration, and you don't already have one, you really ought should consider getting an RTG solution for it...
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Sort of surprised nobody has mentioned it but there is FPSE (http://www.amidog.com/amiga/fpse/index.html)...
I think you didn't understand what i mean by "please be realistic" or perhaps you are just kidding? :D
interesting question but I think you have to narrow it down some, because of the different ways of emulation;
I'm interested in any decent game machine that a classic Amiga is able to emulate at a reasonable speed.
This means no Atari2600 (too primitive) and no Playstation (too slow) emulators.
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I think you didn't understand what i mean by "please be realistic" or perhaps you are just kidding? :D
What's unrealistic about it? RTG? Amigas have been able to use 3rd party display cards, one way or another, since the A2000 days. Since OS3.1, RTG compatibility has been considered a feature that any well-behaved OS friendly application should be capable of supporting.
I'm interested in any descent game machine that a classic Amiga is able to emulate at a reasonable speed.
Well, the PS1 was considered decent in it's day. Not every game is going to run at full speed but FPSE runs respectably on classic PPC+RTG for many titles.
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Well, the PS1 was considered decent in it's day. Not every game is going to run at full speed but FPSE runs respectably on classic PPC+RTG for many titles.
It does?! My apologies. A playstation is definitely decent. My Amiga 1200 is PPC+RTG and i always thought that even with this setup, she is too slow to emulate a Playstation. I'm off to try some games then. Any suggestions?
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R-Type Delta, Space Invaders and WipEout would be the best PS1 games.
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This is about classic Amigas with or without a PPC, so please be realistic.
IMHO, a superb question. Have we got any good 3DO or Saturn emulations?
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i would think a Cyberstorm MkIII or a Cyberstorm PPC should be a starting point on performance/emulation on classic amigas.
with some users modifying their cards upto 400Mhz, perhaps someone can try what performance gains there are with this new speed for classic.
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MacOS 9 via iFusion, CSPPC233, was pretty fast but development stopped. No networking and slow drive access etc. Wasted money but sort of fun yet.
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interesting question but I think you have to narrow it down some, because of the different ways of emulation;
mame-type: complete disconnect from hardware, can run anything on anything but costly in resources. (I remember running a 4MHz z80 game on A1200 28MHz at around 1-2 fps)
Considering I could run a Spectrum emulator at full speed on a 14MHz A1200, I would hazard that the MAME issue is being totally disconnected via abstraction layers from the underlying hardware, being written in C, and also probably emulating some complex graphics chippery on top of that.
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Considering I could run a Spectrum emulator at full speed on a 14MHz A1200.
I'd say it's not a very exact emulator in that case ;)
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I'd say it's not a very exact emulator in that case ;)
I'd assume he means ZXAM which, while not totally accurate, it was about 90-95% compatible to 48k software and it emulated the AY sound chip as well.
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The most perfect emulator on the amiga is Amimastergear: perfect emulation of SEGA Master System and Game Gear even on a vanilla A1200. Glory to its author, who even released a free key for it.
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I'd assume he means ZXAM which, while not totally accurate, it was about 90-95% compatible to 48k software and it emulated the AY sound chip as well.
Compatible as in 'it loads and runs' or 'it actually looks and sounds like it's supposed to'? :) If it's the former then I can believe the 90-95%, but if it's the latter then not.
EDIT: a small clarification: 'it actually looks and sounds like it's supposed to while running at full speed and 50fps on an 14MHz A1200' :)
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If that's your configuration, and you don't already have one, you really ought should consider getting an RTG solution for it...
Been trying to get hold of a gfx board for years now, but had no luck so far even on ebay... :(