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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: mantisspider on December 02, 2003, 07:34:48 AM
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Hi Guys.
I been wondering with all the active members in the amiga community, who are actually using their amigas in the work place or for business use?
i.e.
* People using the amiga in the office as a word processing office horse.
* Graphic artists, using the amiga to make lovely works of art
* 3D artists, making models, images, etc
* Video editors, post production etc..
the list goes on...
will be fun to see how many people out there do find the classic amigas still able to hold their position in the workplace.
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Whilst I rarely use my Amiga hardware anymore, I still run various Amiga apps under emulation (Amiga Forever 5.3) and am currently using ImageFX 4.5 to create some visual FX for a straight-to-video horror movie. On the PC front I use the Video Toaster [3], LightWave 7.5 and Mirage (TVPaint 6) so I still keep the Amiga spirit in my work ;-)
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I work as an electronics engineer, and run various Amiga apps under WinUAE. Things like TV Paint, Term, Final Writer, CygnusEd, etc. Mainly because I'm used to the (decent) software. Plus the company's current offerings for a terminal prog is Hyperterminal, and their graphics editing suite = M$ Paint. Yeah right :-P
From home I do a lot of part time technical work and only use Amigas. That includes website hosting, FTP services and running a local network. Also technical documentation/manuals, schematics, image editing, scanning, internet, email... lots of stuff!
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who are actually using their amigas in the work place
I use WinUAE to run old games and demos here at work.. does that count? :-P
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We use two Amiga's: a 1200/030 and a 4000/030, both loaded with ScalaMM400. We use them to make titles and the occasional animation for our live broadcastings. For editing we use Media100, on Mac G4's, though.
I had school buy me MM400 for my own use; it sometimes is more convenient to make titles and animations at home, far away from the madding crowd.
Johan Banis
tv-tech dept
School for Journalism
Utrecht
Netherlands
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I work for the U.S.A. Federal Government. In 1987 (before I got here) my agency bought a Rev 4.2 A2000 and a Super-Gen so new that it came with software 0.9 and the manual had a single staple in the corner. With an 060 accelerator, a Video Toaster, & ethernet, I still use it. May well be the oldest regularly used desktop computer in the whole government.
I also have an A4000D & an A4000T with PPC & a Flyer editor. Don't do much with the Flyer these days as we bought a duel G-5 Mac based editor this year.
I regularly use Lightwave, ImageFX, (I even use AdPro for a few things.) plus DPaint 4.1 & 5, and TurboPrint to create signs, banners, logos, incidental art and the ocasional animated opening for our satelite broadcast studio.
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Don't know if this counts...
Till recently we used a "real" Amiga/040 (with DPS PAR) for frame storage, all during the 90's it was our main graphics workstation. It has now been retired (sold) as we went completely digital. Like Aegis above we do keep de spirit of Amiga alive by using progs like lightwave, aura and elastic reality. The one thing we definitely miss is arexx, throw together a few lines of code et voila you just improved your workflow 200%. Nothing like that on our current machines.
Come back Amiga ... Come back stronger than ever...
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I tend to use WinUAE and PPaint to pixel web icons, but that's about it.
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I still use my Amiga to do college work on. AKA typing out stuff, etc. Actually, i am after Mac Office (with Word, Excel and Power Point) so i can do even more work on Amiga via Mac emulation.
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I'm using my amiga almost every day...
I'm using it for programing reports to school and some graphical job I've got...
Got an 2,4Ghz Intel here wich I use less than my stabile A1260T :-)
True to the Amiga I guess...
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i am a games developer and yes i use only my amigas...
lw, dpaint , ifx4 , photogenics and devpak3.1x .
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@Lempkee
Is there an amiga app that is as simple and quick as MilkShape 3D (http://www.swissquake.ch/chumbalum-soft/ms3d/download.html)?
Have you used Rhino3D on the PC?
Does anyone use Aladdin4D on the Amiga? Hows it compare to PC/Mac high end 3D modeling and rendering apps?
Anyone know if Maxon are ever gonna bring Cinema4D back to the Amiga?
For 3D games developing, 3D Studio Max has been a popular choice with the professionals for years, however I find MilkShape a good choice for those without the big bucks wanting to make low polygon models. The reason I used it on the PC was that it reminded me of the way Imagine worked on the Amiga.
Has the amiga got any character animation applications, like character studio or character fx?
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carls wrote:
I tend to use WinUAE and PPaint to pixel web icons, but that's about it.
Still the best way to make web graphics :-) I had to make do with Corel Paint tonight though, which took some getting used to, but I needed 24bit colour...
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that_punk_guy wrote:
[Still the best way to make web graphics :-) I had to make do with Corel Paint tonight though, which took some getting used to, but I needed 24bit colour...
ImageFX 4.5 I never work in anything but the 24bit mode.
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I have tried, but not successfully. I have come to realize that I simply can't live without MS Office, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash, and Internet Explorer (I also have Opera installed on my Windows machine, and I like it a lot, but I tend to use Explorer nevertheless).
There simply are no real comparable alternatives. In the cases where there are some similar software on the Amiga, they are years behind and doesn't even come close to their Windows counterparts, and the effort of trying to do things with these softwares (just for the sake of it) would make my work unbearable. I want my tools to ease my work, not to bring up obstacles that weren't there before. I am sorry to say, but I could not live (work) without my Windows machine.
As a hobby it's a different matter ...
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With a deep sigh.... I wish I could!
I was using it as a web-development machine and test server. I was successful in getting Apache, MySQL, and PHP running like magic.
But with the cruddy state of AMiga browers, I'm forced to use Mac OS X most of the time, but I still use the Amiga when I can to test and deploy PHP/MySQL apps.
-Alex
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Kinda moving from the subject slightly
Has anyone tried using RealSoft 3D on the PC? is this on the same level as Aladdin4D or is RealSoft 3d better? cheers
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About 7 years ago, I was working in a support department, and doing very well, and my boss told me she needed a certain type of report.
Well I exported the data to a text file, and took it home, wrote a program to parse it out, in, of all things, Amiga's ACE basic (just a freebie basic from aminet)....(I still only owned an A1200 for my computer) ...after a while the program kept getting bigger and bigger and I was emulating database functions, and then I discovered something at work...my work PC, had SA access to a SQL Server database at work. This was like a whole new world opened up to me (also it was amusing when they discovered my tables in the database...but thats another story)
after that, I moved my reports/program into SQL Server and made a TCL front end. I chose, tcl/tk because..., you guessed it, there was a version for the Amiga on aminet, and it also worked on the PC's at work.
(though that was the reasoning, I never programmed it on the Amiga again, because the Amiga version was out of date and didn't have odbc extensions).
Anyway....so, long story short, that started a series of events, until eventually I became a senior database administrator(and amiga community lunatic)
After I sold that Amiga, I bought a mac for the home, I eventually moved into the Unix database world at work, and so I've been multiplatform ever since.
My favorite apps, currently, come from the Mac and PC world....I love photoshop on a Mac, I've been forced to use MS Word, long enough to like it some.
And I generally use internet explorer.
As for programming, I mostly do whatever programming I need in either a unix scripting language or ms visual studio .Net in windows xp.
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@MarkTime,
nice story. do amiga's finaly have odbc extensions yet?
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As I allready posted in several threads, I use my 5x A2000 and 3x A1200 in graphics over video overlay (Genlock).
I use Amigas for the job since Sep 1990 and I don't find any reason why I should upgrade to any other system :-D
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what software and hardware do you use in ur A2000's n A1200's?
Do you use Video Toasters with your setup?
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Nope, just classic amigas with some xtras.
A2000 just have hard drives and some extra memory(and Internal Genlock Cards)
A1200s have 4way buffered IDE interfaces, 2-4GB hard drives, CD-ROMs, Blizzard1240/16MB (x3) and external genlock boxes.
As simple as that :-D
For NLE (Non Linear Video Editing) I have:
2x PC ATHLON/1GB RAM/2x200GB HD + 2x250GB HD/ 2x Matrox RT2500
1x Silicon Graphics 02
1x Silicon Graphics ONYX w/Reality Engine2 + Sirius Video Rack.
Is that enough? :-P
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Used WinUAE once to rename a batch of files at work once. Simply I
couldn't find out any way to do it in windows, so I made a simple
shell script on the Amiga instead.
But, thats all. Tried to convert some work related stuff like Erlang
programming language to Amiga but failed due to it required some mayor
changes even to pass the pre-compiler.
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I used my amiga when I made the music for
Slap 'Em Out, an online beat 'em up, made for
the Swedish beer brewer Åbro. I made all character animations in UAE (didnt have access to an Amiga at the time..) You can check out
the result at http://www.abro.se
Click on SlapEmOut, it is made in Flash.
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@spotUP
Heh, just had a go at this, top game! On-line towel fighting, whatever next?
:-D
-john
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sadly the amiga version of tcl/tk was frozen at 7.6 for a long time, and I heard later, that maybe with geek gadgets and x, and a bit of luck, you could get 8.0 working (actually 7.6 might have required x too).
anyway, tcl/tk is at 8.3 or so, and as for odbc extensions, the amiga has never had odbc, as far as I know.
Even the Mac didn't have the greatest support for databases, and most people didn't think I could use a Mac for that work...however, they were wrong, in that there was an ODBC framework, and even a mac version of the tcl/tk driver, and I did do some work on the Mac at home.
Though, now I just do all my work at work, my wife had something to do with that.
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@mantisspider
Aladdin4D is basically...in one word..."Rubbish". I`ve used it only a tiny bit and wasn`t impressed. Also, have you seen the example renders? They explain why nobody uses it :-)
I do a bit of graphics work (when I have time). I use ImageFX4,TVPaint,DPaint5,Perfect Paint,Image Studio,Candyfactory, Lightwave...erm..and probably other stuff too.
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mantisspider wrote:
Does anyone use Aladdin4D on the Amiga? Hows it compare to PC/Mac high end 3D modeling and rendering apps?
Nothing on the Amiga compares to what we use on the PC/Mac. Lightwave, Softimage and Maya do not have to worry about the Amiga programs. However, I think a good case can be made that Aladdin is as good or almost as good as the last Lightwave version for the Amiga, or at least 4.0, and both have features the other could use. With lots more horsepower, and 3D graphics libraries now available for the PPC solutions, I think we'll see what will appear to be a big jump in performance due to the enhanced capabilities that can be used on the new computers.
-Tig
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Well, I'm writing this on a POS Win98 box running Opera 7.23 (registered), but my main machine is an Amiga 3000.
I use it for occasional video work, but my bread and butter is mySQL and Cold Fusion programming, with web development on top.
All of the business' day to day work is done on it, mostly in CED, YAM, Final Writer, TV Paint, IFX, AdPro, PPaint, TurboPrint, TurboCalc... on and on...
Invoicing and accounting is done on the 3000, as is all database design, CF programming etc. Its much faster and stabler than any version of Windows I've used thus far (2.0, 3.1, W95, W98, W2k, WXP..), so I'll probably keep using it until I have to switch.
The win98 box is for testing, surfing and DE/AA development.
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@AmiNTT
Te-He! I like your avatar! :-)
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For a long time I used my amiga 2000 for going online (miami,aweb), making web pages (CED for text) and using ImageFX for pics. and used all 3 amiga browsers to test my pages.
last fall I got a dell laptop and installed linux to make it mutiboot.
I can now make web pages in Quanta Plus. and use The GIMP for certain image creation. I use Opera to log on.
and I have WinUAE and still use IFX 4.5 for alot of image creation and manipulation for web sites.
I just got a pegasos (pre-april, so it has problems) and eventually will be using that as well.
i always say that no matter what i use the amiga is always with me. :-D