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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Retrofan on September 12, 2010, 07:05:54 PM

Title: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 12, 2010, 07:05:54 PM
Hi:
As I don't have friends to show my improvements with the Amiga, I want to show an small but nice one I've just done: To put the HD compact flash aside the Amiga.
Why? I had always the Amiga opened, to use the Compact flash HD with WinUAE, and to change between different CF Hard Drives I have. Finally, putting the HD aside with an slot on the Amiga, I can close the Amiga with all the screws (I had to search for them).
So this was the chance to try the internal cd rom I installed months ago. As you can see it opens and closes perfect, and the HD on it's side I believe is great.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iKiBfZt0wc
 
What do you think?
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Seaquest on September 12, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
Nice:-)
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 12, 2010, 10:49:58 PM
To the ones that didn't answer: haven't you thought putting it outside like this? Don't you like it?
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: spaceman88 on September 12, 2010, 11:09:58 PM
Hi,
Nice setup. I want to install a CDROM in my 1200 like you did. I have already installed a removable CF card on my A4000 (on the back, in the unused "expansion slot" so it wouldn't use up a Zorro slot)
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: alexh on September 13, 2010, 08:09:36 AM
Nice. I'd like to see how it all fixes together inside.

Lots of users including myself have their CF card connected to the IDE removable from outside.

My technique was to glue the 2.5" IDE->CF adapter to the top of the internal PCMCIA connector and then increase the height of the PCMCIA slot in the case using a series of fine files. This makes the slot much cleaner (and easier to do especially for a novice) than cutting a hole in the case with a Dremel or something.
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 13, 2010, 11:40:02 AM
So you have the IDE-CF adapter on top of the PCMCIA? But there isn't much room there, and if you haven't got a Pcmcia card on, you have only the upper "wall" to guide the CF into. In mine it's like connecting the card to the pcmcia slot.
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 13, 2010, 11:42:00 AM
One more.
The Ide-Cf is holded with a screw at the lower part, to the sheilding, and with double side tape and a glued rubber to get it higher at the top part.
To make the slot I only used a drill to make holes along it and a chinese file to give it the right measurements.
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Franko on September 13, 2010, 11:51:55 AM
Hi Retrofan, :)

That has to be one of the neatest solutions I've ever seen on a standard A1200 case, congratulations one some very nice work and ideas there... :D
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: alexh on September 13, 2010, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: Retrofan;579068
So you have the IDE-CF adapter on top of the PCMCIA?
Yes. This is a picture of a user AVErsiv who used the same technique I do on an A600. http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/922/img7031r.jpg

Quote from: Retrofan;579068
But there isn't much room there
?? Never felt like a problem.

Quote from: Retrofan;579068
if you haven't got a Pcmcia card on, you have only the upper "wall" to guide the CF into.
Plus the receptacle sides & bottom of the CF card adapter.

I like what you've done though.
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 13, 2010, 06:42:02 PM
Yes, it has to be easier that way. I prefer mine because I can take the card from above and below, and over the Pcmcía card you'll have to take it by it's sides, but it isn't a real problem...
 
I've seen too the Ide-cf in the trapdoor under the floppy drive, but I will need that place for the Indivision Aga connection whenever it will be for sale again...
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: kolla on September 13, 2010, 07:07:17 PM
@retrofan
Great setup :)

Quote from: alexh;579095
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/922/img7031r.jpg

What's that wiring with the RF modulator and power? And for completeness, which fast RAM card is that? :)
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: alexh on September 13, 2010, 07:21:46 PM
@kolla
That is not my A600 but I can answer your questions.

Quote from: kolla;579098
What's that wiring with the RF modulator and power?
That is the Kickstart switch. It is just a standard 3-pole, two way switch (+5v, 0v, A17) which switches the 1Mbyte 27C800 EPROM containing two kickstart images KS3.1 v40.63 & KS 1.3 (v34.5 with A600 IDE patch). It is the cheapest and easy to fit kickstart switcher there is taking up almost no room in the case.

Quote from: kolla;579098
And for completeness, which fast RAM card is that? :)
It is one of the remakes (http://www.guildserver.co.uk/forums/AmiDev/) of LordVader's A608 (2008) (http://lvd.nedopc.com/Projects/a600_8mb_2/index.html).
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 15, 2010, 12:59:30 AM
Hi:
I have a dude: I made the Amikit conversion to a real Amiga;... is there a difference between my windows (icons options up in the window) and the normal Dopus installation (shown in the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iKiBfZt0wc) ???
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 15, 2010, 01:12:54 AM
I mean this on top of the window:
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 15, 2010, 01:34:34 AM
I want to add something, and I don't mean your're answering right now, but I love this web because now it's half past one AM (tomorrow's holiday here) and there are fifteen people watching it...
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: jsixis on September 15, 2010, 01:42:36 AM
very nice work, what OS are you using?
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 15, 2010, 01:57:37 AM
Hi: It's Os 3.9 on both on the video; Dopus from Amikit conversion and on Sys4Aga too. They are 16Gb Sandisk Ultra and 32Gb Trascend Compact Flash
 
And they are Boing Bagged 2 because I felt I was loosing chip memory with more BBags
 
BTW I want to thank to Cammy because I first saw Dopus installation in her videos, althought I didn't use finally the Dopus installation she told me (was expensive) and made the Amikit conversion to a real Amiga...
 
Does anyone know about those graphics on the Amikit conversion windows?
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: TheGoose on September 15, 2010, 03:26:40 AM
It is very cool and smartly done Retro!

Thanks for sharing the pics and all. Almost makes me want a regular A1200 case.

;)
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 15, 2010, 06:25:05 PM
Thanks so much, but I want to know if someone has Dopus Magellan installed if the icons in the windows are the same of Amikit (the ones I have installed on my Amiga):
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Franko on September 15, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Hi Retrofan, :)

As I've already said thats one hell of a neat solution, just wondering though is the CD drive read only and do you know if it's possible to buy a CD/DVD burner drive that could be fitted in the same way you have done. :)

I quite fancy having a got at one of my old A1200's the way you have done, but would really prefer it if I could add a CD/DVD burner. :)

Cheers :drink:

Franko
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 15, 2010, 10:26:42 PM
It's an HP (that's what it's written) TS-L462, althought it seems it's Toshiba-Samsung. It seems it can read DVD's (I haven't tried it) and record Cd's (I don't know how):
http://www.netcomdirect.com/tstosasttets.html
 
I'm not sure if I have asked before, but are my icons at the windows what everybody have with Dopus or are they only for the Amikit version?
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Franko on September 15, 2010, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: Retrofan;579634
It's an HP (that's what it's written) TS-L462, althought it seems it's Toshiba-Samsung. It seems it can read DVD's (I haven't tried it) and record Cd's (I don't know how):
http://www.netcomdirect.com/tstosasttets.html
 
I'm not sure if I have asked before, but are my icons at the windows what everybody have with Dopus or are they only for the Amikit version?

Not quite sure by your post, do you mean you don't know how to burn CDs yourself or you'r not sure if your drive has the ability to burn CDs... :)

If it's CD burning software you require then you can download MakeCD for free from Aminet.

http://aminet.net/search?query=makecd
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: Retrofan on September 18, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
Sorry for the delayed answer, but I've been connecting a Mega Cd to my Mega Drive and installing two switches so I can play now Ntsc and change regions...  http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/console/sega/md1switches.htm
 
To tell the truth the thing wasn't I don't know how to burn cd's on the Amiga but that I can make the same on Winuae or directly on the PC, so I've never searched how to do it...
 
Nobody knows about Dopus and my icons?
Title: Re: Lateral HD on A1200
Post by: easy_john on September 21, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Retrofan;578975
What do you think?


Can you show photo with open case, how you install cd-rom.

I try to install cd with idefix-express and find, that is impossible:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Feasyjohn.livejournal.com%2F161570.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Feasyjohn.livejournal.com%2F162206.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Feasyjohn.livejournal.com%2F162338.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Feasyjohn.livejournal.com%2F162715.html
(not very good googletranslated)