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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: Pyromania on September 11, 2010, 05:56:51 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQTemf043tw&feature=player_embedded
If it was not so funny it would be sad.
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Gee thanks for being so positive guys. I am a developer for this phone and an Amiga and AROS user still, you are making me feel so good about this.. I'd just report that your site works great from the phone's new web browser, I'd also say that suspect UAE and 8 bit emulation could be on the way for it too..
I think you guys are going to get a real suprise in a month out and on the marketplace app store by the end of the year..
If you are curious about the app that I have been working on (think max headroom but not for comedy) for search on any number of different datasources (Oauth/REST, Open Data protocol) with a human host that you can talk to and will speak back to you..
check out our early prototypes..
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=427784901780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=424835606780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=420689311780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=420286421780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=420063926780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419941741780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419887656780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419476771780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419281791780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=427877796780
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5580746&l=5051730eec&id=540071780
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5559355&l=b98ce9ba44&id=540071780
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5536479&l=e051ad3e28&id=540071780
You guys are going to get a suprise about this phone how easy it is to develop for it versus iphone and android and how many apps are on the way because of this.. I know how many apps are on the way.. Stay tuned mid October and see for yourself. This isn't Windows Mobile..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMbpWz5r08
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You have just confirmed that Windows Phone 7 has at least one developer. I would hope that this website would work OK from it's web browser since that would be a big fail if it could not even do something basic like that. Engaget covered this event too.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/10/microsoft-celebrates-windows-phone-7-rtm-with-funeral-parade-for/
Maybe this phone will be a cheap way to run UAE if they get blow out like the Kin phone for 99 cents after the market rejects it.
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What's all the fuss about, reckon I'm the only person on this planet that doesn't own any kind of mobile phone... :)
Apart from my landline/home phone, my only other form of communication with the outside world are two old beans tins and a really long piece of string... :D
(although I only seem to get the sound of silence on it these days, wonder what happened to my imaginary friend.. :( )
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You know this is not the Kin, this product was done in house, it's not from a company that they bought (Danger you remember the sidekick phone that paris hilton used to run around with)...
This is a completely different and good experience.. Don't talk to me about "they" as programmers I don't talk to you about things I can't do for my own self ;-) Not ready to announce anything right now though..
Best wishes always..
-Don
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Win Phone 7 is so good the photos and videos of the funeral were captured with an Android phone by a M$ employee.
http://hothardware.com/News/Windows-Phone-7-RTM--Funeral-for-iPhone-and-Microsoft-Holds-It/
Your probably a decent developer DonnyEMU, you should really investigate making apps for Android or the iPhone so you can make some money. The problem with Win Phone 7 is no one is going to buy one. How can you sell apps when you have no customers? Millions were burned on Windows Mobile and they will not soon forget.
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I knew this looked familiar but could not place it till now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8
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I knew this looked familiar but could not place it till now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8
That must be the most exciting thing thats happened in a Microsoft Store in years... (sad gits) :roflmao:
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That must be the most exciting thing thats happened in a Microsoft Store in years... (sad gits) :roflmao:
Nope, the MC Hammer visit was the most exciting, LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq0xlVeRhAU
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Gee thanks for being so positive guys. I am a developer for this phone and an Amiga and AROS user still, you are making me feel so good about this.. I'd just report that your site works great from the phone's new web browser, I'd also say that suspect UAE and 8 bit emulation could be on the way for it too..
I think you guys are going to get a real suprise in a month out and on the marketplace app store by the end of the year..
If you are curious about the app that I have been working on (think max headroom but not for comedy) for search on any number of different datasources (Oauth/REST, Open Data protocol) with a human host that you can talk to and will speak back to you..
check out our early prototypes..
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=427784901780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=424835606780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=420689311780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=420286421780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=420063926780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419941741780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419887656780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419476771780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=419281791780
http://www.facebook.com/DonBurnett?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=427877796780
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5580746&l=5051730eec&id=540071780
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5559355&l=b98ce9ba44&id=540071780
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5536479&l=e051ad3e28&id=540071780
You guys are going to get a suprise about this phone how easy it is to develop for it versus iphone and android and how many apps are on the way because of this.. I know how many apps are on the way.. Stay tuned mid October and see for yourself. This isn't Windows Mobile..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMbpWz5r08
243 YouTube views, wow people are really getting excited! Also, your assuming all of us use Facebook. Many of us don't bother.
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It must really suck to work at a technology company that encourages this sort of thing. Plus, they have to live and work in the Pacific Northwest, where the air is clean and everything is green. I much prefer being chained to a cubicle sixteen hours a day in a windowless building that used to be a Price Club (Costco). (It's not usually sixteen hours a day, but I really do work in a cube in a windowless warehouse.)
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Folks what you are calling a funeral was not a funeral.. That's how these rumors get started, don't take everything you read as fact. That was the Windows Phone 7 developer tools team celebrating the fact that their work was done and they went gold on the tools which happens on September 16th..
Of course when you work on something you think it's the best thing out there and you have a great team.. If this had been Apple would it been has met as negatively by those who have comments? As far as I know (and I know a couple of people in the pictures) this was not an iphone funeral as much as the fact that most of us who have iphones are happy enough with this phone that as soon as it's publically available we will turn our iphones off for good.. Most of these people already have this phone 24/7 obviously..
It just shows you how exaggeration can lead to people here trashing other platforms and people celebrating their own accomplishments..
Shame on you guys.. They have a right to be happy about things they did. The product is quite revolutionary on many fronts.. We'll have to see how it does long term.. It does have a steeper battle with Android, not so much with iphone and IOS devices because Apple alienated a lot of it's developers (like Adobe) with restrictions that the most recently relaxed after getting a ton of bad press about it..
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M$ opened themselves up to being made fun of by having a funeral for products that have been a lot more successful then their own. Having transexuals in pink dresses march to celebrate the release of a phone is so over the top! No offense to trannes in pink dresses of course. M$ has much bigger problems then Win Phone 7 failing. MS stock has been in the toilet for over a decade.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-21/will-microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer-be-fired-for-low-stock-price/
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M$ opened themselves up to being made fun of by having a funeral for products that have been a lot more successful then their own. Having transexuals in pink dresses march to celebrate the release of a phone is so over the top! No offense to trannes in pink dresses of course. M$ has much bigger problems then Win Phone 7 failing. MS stock has been in the toilet for over a decade.
Again, not really seeing the downside (as a technology worker) to a company that encourages employees to celebrate their accomplishments. Especially one that's hip on cross-dressing. (How do you know they're TS and not TG, TV, or just having fun? Or it could have been a muscular woman. It's sort of hard to measure shoulder-chest-waist-hip ratios while someone is dancing. And if she was TS, then she is a woman. Just sayin'.)
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I knew this looked familiar but could not place it till now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAXEVXvNz8
My head just exploded, thanks a lot :angry:
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Nope, the MC Hammer visit was the most exciting, LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq0xlVeRhAU
Oh lord, make the pain stop :nervous:
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It does have a steeper battle with Android, not so much with iphone and IOS devices because Apple alienated a lot of it's developers (like Adobe) with restrictions that the most recently relaxed after getting a ton of bad press about it..
I had an HTC Incredible Droid phone for about a month and returned it. Horrible, completely horrible! I'm sticking with Blackberry for now, the others just seem like toys.
You aren't really surprised that Microsoft products get a luke-warm reception on an Amiga website? Just about everything will get a luke-warm reception here, Apple, Windows, Linux, OS4, MorphOS, AROS etc. If this is rolled out and it is a DROID and iPhone killer, it will get some respect.
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Oh lord, make the pain stop :nervous:
Sorry... Can't take the pain away, cos Mr Hammer sez... :(
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I thought I would chime in as well and say that I too am developing some projects for this platform. I *LOVE* Visual Studio. I teach it, I use it, I make a very nice living with it.
Having programmed for the iPhone and Android, I think Microsoft has done a great job with their dev tools for Windows Phone 7.
XCode is very nice (though much different than VS in many ways) but I hate Objective-C. I don't hate the iPhone, Apple, or XCode, just Objective-C. I feel like I'm back in college programming and that was not fun. I have a great deal of respect for the iPhone dev crowd (really, I do).
Android is basically Eclipse with a bolt on but its JAVA which I like better than Objective-C.
Do I think Windows Phone 7 will set the world on fire? I'm not sure. The world runs on the perception of truth and Microsoft has a battle on that front. Apple = Cool. Android = Free. Microsoft = Old World. They really have to change that image and this 'funeral' stunt or whatever it was has to stop.
Crispin/Porter -an ad firm- said that Steve Ballmer came to them and stated he wanted to be cool like Apple (referring to Microsoft et al). They told him it begins by not saying that you want to be cool. I don't think Steve got it because he kept telling the media how he wants Microsoft to cool. You can never be cool if you keep telling people you aren't.
I do think that Windows Phone 7 has a great shot in the business market because of Microsoft and the tools they are using.
Just my humble 2 cents,
P
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Apart from my landline/home phone, my only other form of communication with the outside world are two old beans tins and a really long piece of string... :D
I theorize you can get 300 baud over that setup. All I need is a second acoustic coupler to perform my experiment.
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Windows Phone 7 will make hungry landfills everywhere very very happy.
:)
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Someone on Apple Insider said it best.
"Take the GUI from the failed Zune HD, take the failed Windows CE base used to build the failed Windows Mobile OS, take the failed Zune music service, and add in the failed proprietary Silverlight platform, and just for fun, lock your phones to the proprietary Windows OS and what do you get? A total failure.
The only thing they should be burying is anyone who had any say in Windows Phone Series 7 or whatever" it is called today.
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How do you tell the moderators from the trolls? Sheesh
Someone on Apple Insider said it best.
"Take the GUI from the failed Zune HD, take the failed Windows CE base used to build the failed Windows Mobile OS, take the failed Zune music service, and add in the failed proprietary Silverlight platform, and just for fun, lock your phones to the proprietary Windows OS and what do you get? A total failure.
The only thing they should be burying is anyone who had any say in Windows Phone Series 7 or whatever" it is called today.
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I'm looking forward to Windows7 mobile series, but I'm not sure how it really fits into the modern Market. Apple and Google have got it pretty much sown up... Microsoft's big strength has always come from legacy app support... Without that they don't offer anything to the consumer...
And I know Objective-C looks horrible when you struggle with it for the first month... But once it clicks, you really will see why it is a rather elegant language :) give Obj-C a chance hahaha
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Still a company that keeps 198 huge buildings in operation in just one city (not mentioning many others) can't be doing that bad.. They have in the past only had one funeral that I am aware of and it was for their own product (this current thing wasn't a funeral) and that was IE 6, which everyone wishes was NOT in use even after it's product lifecycle ended a few years ago..
A little homophobic huh? So you guys really think that is a guy in the pink dress?? LMAO... Did you guys ever see the Michael Jackson video Thriller? I think you guys are just looking for something here.. I can assure you the "person" in the pink dress isn't a trannie and that's a costume).
By the way for the guy who is saying that stock has dipped, that has nothing to do with profitability for the most part in a company structured like microsoft..
I'd direct you guys here.. and I know you won't like it ;-)
http://techflash.com/seattle/2010/01/microsoft_windows_7_sales_fuel_record_revenue.html
here's an opinion from outside of seattle too..
http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/windows-7-powers-microsoft-to-record-profit-20100129-n2ct.html
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I disagree. MS's strength hasn't come from legacy app support. If it was, OS/2 might have been more popular. MS's stregth has come from running on just any hardware with a manufacturer that wants to write drivers. Of course, Android has taken that role in the phone market, so we are still left wondering what Windows7 has to bring to the table....
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You are sure going to find out soon enough... I just got done with my dev eval phone and shipped it back.. I am back to my old iphone and withdrawl.. Our app may even revolutionize the device UI itself ;-)
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Bloodline: I would disagree with you, I have been doing Amiga C/C++ since way before it was ever ANSIFIED (that's over 25 years I started back in '84 on a proto A1000)... I would just tell you in C# and with XAML/.NET I can do an app (the same app in about 1/4 of the time with the same functionality).
And this is way more elegant.. Of course it is managed code but that doesn't bother me one bit, especially since everything in most smart phones are asynchronously coded anyway..
I am looking at taking on porting mono and silverlight mono to AROS in fact so I can move the same apps I make in and out of browser for the Mac, PC and Windows Desktop and Linux (and x-box 360 via .net XNA) over to AROS in fact..
And with my app I am not afraid to say I'll be laughing all the way to the bank even if it only sells 1/4 of what an iPhone/Android app will (Which I am porting to with Monotouch and Monodroid already)..
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As far as objective C I have been doing Objective-C since the NextStep boxes in 1993..
The same sad interface builder and NIB files are used today to do iphone apps. Nothing beats Expression Blend for Windows Phone's Video and animation drag and drop integration for the UI with it either even AppInventor..
If you guys want to really see how I feel about my experience with iPhone..
Check out my little slideshare.. 17,000 people have viewed it worldwide since July.. The fact is most of them agree with me.. I had wall street analysts and money people calling me for any opinion after this was published. Because I nailed the reality of it.. It's a comparable hello world.. if you can do the drag and drop video and sample data that Blend for Windows Phone can do and REST connectivity as quickly let me know..
We can have a race..
http://slidesha.re/95gJsv
The embeded URL for the video in the presentation is at..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMbpWz5r08
The reality of smartphone tools is you can't do this with anything else out there..
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@Pyromania
I can't speak to Windows 7 Mobile specifically, but in general, Microsoft doesn't censor developers. I love my iPhone for what it is (and hate it for what it isn't, i.e. a reliable phone), but Apple's control over software distribution is scary stuff.
Software distribution in general is about to get even scarier thanks to Vernor v. Autodesk. Say goodbye to used software. Say goodbye to libraries. Hell, say goodbye to retail, period. If we take the ruling to its ultimate conclusion, all software developers will have to license software directly to end users, as wholesalers and retailers won't be allowed to transfer their copies. That's stupid, of course, so new software licenses will have to include specific language allowing wholesale and commercial resale, but not individual resale. I'm really not sure how that's going to work in practice.
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As far as objective C I have been doing Objective-C since the NextStep boxes in 1993..
The same sad interface builder and NIB files are used today to do iphone apps. Nothing beats Expression Blend for Windows Phone's Video and animation drag and drop integration for the UI with it either even AppInventor..
If you guys want to really see how I feel about my experience with iPhone..
Check out my little slideshare.. 17,000 people have viewed it worldwide since July.. The fact is most of them agree with me.. I had wall street analysts and money people calling me for any opinion after this was published. Because I nailed the reality of it.. It's a comparable hello world.. if you can do the drag and drop video and sample data that Blend for Windows Phone can do and REST connectivity as quickly let me know..
We can have a race..
http://slidesha.re/95gJsv
The embeded URL for the video in the presentation is at..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMbpWz5r08
The reality of smartphone tools is you can't do this with anything else out there..
I don't think dev tools matter this time, only 249 views so interest is very very low. We get more views on ancient Amiga Video Toaster videos. Too many customers were burned by Windows Mobile and will not buy Windows Phone 7. I think that makes it DOA for customers just like Kin. Perception is reality this time and millions love their iPhones and Android phones and see no reason to change. Bitch about Apple if you like but 253,000 applications is nothing to sneeze at. Windows Phone 7 will not reach this millstone for a long time if ever. I'm a Windows developer and can tell you first hand it's no picnic. The sun has already set on most developers making nice money on Windows anything.
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http://www.osnews.com/story/23658/Android_Phone_Sales_Outpace_iPhone_Sales
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http://www.osnews.com/story/23658/Android_Phone_Sales_Outpace_iPhone_Sales
Yup, I'm not really defending the iPhone. I think Windows Phone 7 will fail since it's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Win Phone 7 is stuck between Android, iPhone and Blackberry. No reason to buy Win 7 phone when so many other great and more mature options are out there. I respect MS for trying to reboot the horrible piece of crap that was Win Mobile 6.5 but they did not do enough. The tile interface is a mess, Win Phone 7 is DOA. I bet anyone $100 that it will fail hard in the marketplace. MS had a long time to get Windows Mobile right but they screwed it up time and time again. Times up!
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Yup, I'm not really defending the iPhone. I think Windows Phone 7 will fail since it's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Win Phone 7 is stuck between Android, iPhone and Blackberry. No reason to buy Win 7 phone when so many other great and more mature options are out there. I respect MS for trying to reboot the horrible piece of crap that was Win Mobile 6.5 but they did not do enough. The tile interface is a mess, Win Phone 7 is DOA. I bet anyone $100 that it will fail hard in the marketplace. MS had a long time to get Windows Mobile right but they screwed it up time and time again. Times up!
I should have clarified. I posted the link less because I thought you were talking up the Iphone and more to point out the relative dominance of android, particularly because you have multiple manufacturers providing competition in that field
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Reviews are already in!
http://gizmodo.com/5631216/my-review-of-windows-phone-7-is-in-and
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Pyro: Several things for you to clue in to here: one content agregation and caching. The number of views don't include embeds... My stats since I posted look more like this...
http://www.uxmagic.com/blog/image.axd?picture=image_139.png
That was a google analytics capture from earlier today..
What do you develop for Windows ?? Would I know the product.. If I call the Microsoft office or DPE office will they know about it?
Time will tell.. You guys have been wrong more times than one.. I suspect all of the major apps will be out there, I have about 5 of them rolled into one right now with more extensibility on the way..
You guys always discount what I have to say here and I don't really feel a need to justify it but that's how I feel. I was hoping you guys would at least say something nice about my app, but this crowd here is to tough and hardened to enjoy everything out there and just have fun with technology.
Why do you guys always have to show things as winners or losers instead of being supportive of others here.. It's a little disappointing.. This is why the community has collapsed on itself.. It's not open to new things and new people..
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My god ? Microsoft mobile ? I dont think this will be popular here, some will use it for sure.. But its M$, many of us work with it, but dont have to like it..
These commercial were horrible btw !!!
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What's all the fuss about, reckon I'm the only person on this planet that doesn't own any kind of mobile phone... :)
Apart from my landline/home phone, my only other form of communication with the outside world are two old beans tins and a really long piece of string... :D
(although I only seem to get the sound of silence on it these days, wonder what happened to my imaginary friend.. :( )
Hey Franko, you're not the only person without one! Being deaf and having no social life, I don't really see the point of owning a mobile phone, they seem like well marketed money pits to me. If I need a portable computer I can take anywhere, I'll use my unbranded netbook running Aros and Linux.
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Hey Franko, you're not the only person without one! Being deaf and having no social life, I don't really see the point of owning a mobile phone, they seem like well marketed money pits to me. If I need a portable computer I can take anywhere, I'll use my unbranded netbook running Aros and Linux.
Wow... proof at last, there are at least two of us on the planet who don't need or use a mobile... :)
Now I can tell my doctors, I'm not so strange after all... :D
Your still a bit trendy though, the closest thing I've got to a netbook or laptop is my old Casio pocket calculator... :roflmao:
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Count me in as one of those with no interest in mobile phones. I do have a 6 year old mobile, but its used exclusively as a telephone (I have no landline) and seldomly. Ironically though it's (mobile phones) becoming one of the best platforms for the sort or development Im interested in (retro style gaming). Despite this though Im in no rush to waste any money on one,... the market is too unstable at the moment and I'll wait for things to become clearer before I even consider buying one (and even then it'll be more to replace my telephone than any of the more modern functionality provided).
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I don't have a mobile phone. I don`t therefore have a mobile telephone number. I really can`t be bothered .... it's just another spam facility to pedal advertising, thinly disguised as a social tool.
As to mini computers... I just don`t get that. Don't even use a laptop. The company gave me a brand new laptop... Don`t tell them but its by the TV collecting dust.. Never been used.
I love computers though. Real computers for doing interesting purposeful stuff. Yet seriously I don't have 'one' computer. :-)
As to Microshite.... I had to box and bag the Elite... They wanted me to subscribe to their live crap or I wouldn`t be able to play. Thing is that's just another advertising tool. Not interested. Never will be.
PS: And Apple are even worse than MS. You buy Quicktime you get stuffed with iTunes. You see iTunes downloads and then asks you if you want to update. NO GO AWAY. And then evil Bonjour which kicks me out of applications when they don`t even ask. Its a handshaking torrent thing. And then there is real crappy Adobe. Any Adobe product that insists on checking for updates... every time you use it. I don`t have a PDF reader here for that reason. I really wish Apple would curl up into a corner and die like they should have done years ago. I have no idea who subsidises their rubbish. Then that would just leave the giant MS to fall over. It will happen. One day.
My path with computing parted years ago when the community decided in favour of a glorified home entertainments facility driven by advertising and 'online' ... all the time. Not interested.
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I'm in fact reading this thread on my phone, trusty old SE p1i with opera mini, while I'm on the bus. I'd love to have a new phone, but I do have some critiria that need to be satisfied:
* simple way to switch on/off battery sucking features like 3G+/wifi etc. GPRS over GSM is quite sufficient most of the time and uses a fraction of power.
* stylus input, I type a heck lot faster with stylus than I do with onscreen keyboards, and a bonus is that I don't have to look at phone while typing - great for meetings.
* fully localized, on my p1i I can easily switch between latin and cyrillic input for example.
* fully functional mail client that can handle multiple IMAP accounts each with large number of folders that contain tens and hudreds of thousand emails. ProfiMail does this on my p1i today, the iPhone mail app is a joke and ibizmail is just slightly better.
* integraton of apps. One addressbook for all apps, user defined default app for web, mail etc. Easy methods for following certain data from one app to the next, connecting addressbook entries in textnotes, calendar entries etc.
* battery life, battery life and more battery life. This p1i can last about a week if I just use it for occational web/mail over GPRS.
I do not need thousands of apps, I just need a handfull, but they must work well and not be just silly lightweight toy apps like they typically are :p
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I don't have a mobile phone. I don`t therefore have a mobile telephone number. I really can`t be bothered .... it's just another spam facility to pedal advertising, thinly disguised as a social tool.
As to mini computers... I just don`t get that. Don't even use a laptop. The company gave me a brand new laptop... Don`t tell them but its by the TV collecting dust.. Never been used.
I love computers though. Real computers for doing interesting purposeful stuff. Yet seriously I don't have 'one' computer. :-)
As to Microshite.... I had to box and bag the Elite... They wanted me to subscribe to their live crap or I wouldn`t be able to play. Thing is that's just another advertising tool. Not interested. Never will be.
PS: And Apple are even worse than MS. You buy Quicktime you get stuffed with iTunes. You see iTunes downloads and then asks you if you want to update. NO GO AWAY. And then evil Bonjour which kicks me out of applications when they don`t even ask. Its a handshaking torrent thing. And then there is real crappy Adobe. Any Adobe product that insists on checking for updates... every time you use it. I don`t have a PDF reader here for that reason. I really wish Apple would curl up into a corner and die like they should have done years ago. I have no idea who subsidises their rubbish. Then that would just leave the giant MS to fall over. It will happen. One day.
My path with computing parted years ago when the community decided in favour of a glorified home entertainments facility driven by advertising and 'online' ... all the time. Not interested.
Why not simply turn off (or not enable in the 1st place) the option to be prompted if there's updates available ?
Not once have I received spam on my mobile phone. I use my xbox360 without a live subscription, Adobe products dont prompt me to update and I have quicktime installed without iTunes,...... I mean no offense, but it sounds like youre letting things influence your life based on your misconceptions. Not that I care, far be it for me to decide how you should do things, but not one thing you said rang true for me.
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@DonnyEMU
LOL, your surprised most people don't care about Windows Phone 7 on an alternate platform forum? We are just trying to save you the headache of wasting your time developing for a phone no one is going to buy. But if you like a pocket full of dust balls go for it. Ten years of Windows mobile failures was not enough for you?
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To be fair I am developing desktop and console versions of this for the Mac and PC and iPhone and Android.. You guys need to know that this is not the same operating system or framework as the old Windows Mobile too.. There are two development environments for it, XNA (as in Xbox 360 and it comes with X-box live built in, with a GPU capable of handling X-Box ports with great shader technology etc.) and the other environment is Silverlight which I have been using before. Calling it Windows Mobile is referring to a completely different operating system underneath (the compact .net framework isn't even the same).. I am not worried because Windows Phone 7 is only one of my targets..
If I can get video streaming working well enough AROS might be another ;-)
-Don
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I used to be an actual classic Amiga developer, suprisingly enough the folks who owned the Amiga licenses would never pony up with access to their developer program for me or get me ahold of any developer hardware. Mostly I beleve because I was a CATS developer.. Plus when I was out in Seattle I caught the fact that their "offices" weren't really open during the time/location that they said they were and gave up after a couple of days.
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OK, I looked through a bunch of youtube vids of windows phone 7, and it looks just as obnoxious and retarded as the other phone systems these days, nothing special at all. And I bet the supplicant is broken too.
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@DonnyEMU
It's good that you have a fallback plan because your Win Phone 7 sales might not even be enough to buy you a pizza.
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WOW... Four of us in this thread so far that don't own or use a mobile phone...:)
A few more, then we could start a football team, or a secret society for mobile phone haters... :D
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@Franko
My wife thinks I need one for "emergencies." So does the office. Otherwise, I wouldn't have one.
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@Franko
My wife thinks I need one for "emergencies." So does the office. Otherwise, I wouldn't have one.
If you really don't like them, then the simple answer is, divorce the wife and resign from your job... :D
Then you could join our footy team... :roflmao:
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Another stupid MS commercial, at least this one got some views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jXz7NrfzsI&feature=player_embedded
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Wow.. You bunch are acting like children. Being AMIGA users I would of thought you would be better than that rather then sinking to a lower standard and trash people, other o/s 's , programming platforms of choice, mobile phones etc. Sad .
So trash me if you want, I don't care.. But all I see here is some people need some growing up. Being a amiga user should have some pride and better morals and not be so prejudice. You probably have white robes and hoddies too.
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@lost_loven
Relax and enjoy some silly MS commercials. M$ is the one hosting mock funerals for other smart phones not us. That's what is in bad taste.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jXz7NrfzsI&feature=player_embedded
Stupid indeed, the order of the colours in the outer rainbow is backwards - how lame :roflmao: