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Title: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: crawff on August 30, 2010, 08:04:30 PM
A-EON have amended the release date from Summer 2010 to Late 2010.

Looks like it might be a expensive christmas this year...

http://a-eon.com/
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: Iggy on August 31, 2010, 03:05:20 AM
Or a chunk out of my savings for a vacation next summer.

Or an expensive Christmas NEXT year.

Or...
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: AmigaEd on August 31, 2010, 04:16:08 AM
Wow! This news was certainly unexpected!

(Note: sarcasm meter fully pegged)
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: Piru on August 31, 2010, 08:58:19 AM
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3.05 Shipment of the Hardware. The shipment of the Hardware is indicatively scheduled for end of Q4/2010. A-EON will provide more detailed information on shipping times once the lead times of all components are known. Betatester may subsequently opt to apply the Advance against a full AmigaOne X1000 system (including harddrive, optical drive and customized case) or may opt to receive only the Hardware. All shipping costs, taxes (including without limitation VAT, import duties and other levies) shall be born by Betatester. All shipping of the Hardware is handled through AmigaKit LLC. (source (http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/175779))
Non-betatesters will have to wait till 2011 I'm afraid.

Something like summer 2011 I'd guess.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: dammy on August 31, 2010, 10:30:04 AM
1,150 GBP for a beta board sure does make the SAM460 look cheap and the EFIKA-MX look like pocket change.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: jj on August 31, 2010, 11:14:50 AM
And a mac mini the most powerful AmigaNG OS capable machine the bargain of the century.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: dammy on August 31, 2010, 11:31:53 AM
Quote from: JJ;576910
And a mac mini the most powerful AmigaNG OS capable machine the bargain of the century.


Pffft!  None of the Amiga-like OSs are NG.  Fastest Amiga-like OS system is going to be a 3+GHz x86 single core.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: jj on August 31, 2010, 11:50:38 AM
Well they are , they are just not modern.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: spihunter on August 31, 2010, 04:33:28 PM
You'll probably be able to pick up a G5 tower for less then $100 USD by then....Looking forward to seeing the benchmarks!
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: Iggy on August 31, 2010, 07:11:02 PM
Quote from: spihunter;576928
You'll probably be able to pick up a G5 tower for less then $100 USD by then....Looking forward to seeing the benchmarks!

Maybe, but will the G5 be supported by MorphOS by then?

And a single core X86 may be the fastest new generation system available, but when will AROS be stable enough for reliable daily use?

Until either of those occur, the G4 Mac is the most powerful NG machine.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: ajlwalker on August 31, 2010, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: Piru;576898
Non-betatesters will have to wait till 2011 I'm afraid.

Something like summer 2011 I'd guess.

Piru

Isn't that quote of yours confidential?
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: Piru on August 31, 2010, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: ajlwalker;576949
Isn't that quote of yours confidential?
Not in my view. This information is given out to anyone who requests it, without signing of a non-disclosure agreement.

In most countries the recipient of mail can make the message public if he decides so. Usually considerations regarding privacy must be made however (you can't reveal legally confidential material, such as medical records). A company writing "confidential" on some document doesn't make it legally confidential, especially if you're willing to mail it out to anyone and everyone.

It all changes if you're employee of the said company and/or have signed NDA with them. Your contract and/or the NDA typically stipulate some rather serious reprimands in case of an offense. Often such breach results in termination of employment / agreement.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: ajlwalker on August 31, 2010, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: Piru;576954
Not in my view. This information is given out to anyone who requests it, without signing of a non-disclosure agreement.

In most countries the recipient of mail can make the message public if he decides so. Usually considerations regarding privacy must be made however (you can't reveal legally confidential material, such as medical records). A company writing "confidential" on some document doesn't make it legally confidential, especially if you're willing to mail it out to anyone and everyone.


I thought they had only mailed it out to those who had expressed an interest in the beta test programme?

Had it been mailed to anyone and everyone, then I would have received a copy.  I have not.

You don't consider it confidential, fair enough.  Do you consider it ethical to make a message public when the correspondent has marked it confidential?
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: Piru on August 31, 2010, 09:39:53 PM
Quote from: ajlwalker;576956
I thought they had only mailed it out to those who had expressed an interest in the beta test programme?
Probably. There are several kind of interest however. Some might actually be only interested on the agreement wording and not participating the beta test programme itself. In my view both are equally valid reasons for interest.

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You don't consider it confidential, fair enough. Do you consider it ethical to make a message public when the correspondent has marked it confidential?
If there was a good reason to keep the information confidential, then I would consider such behavior unethical.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: spihunter on August 31, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
Maybe, Maybe not. I'm pretty confident that they will eventually release it though. They've delivered on the Mini & the Emac. The Powerbook version has been shown in public.

The G4 & G5 towers seem more of a challenge with all the configurations and graphic cards that came on these...

I haven't tried AROS in a while but, I didn't seem stable enough for everyday use last I tried it.


Quote from: Iggy;576937
Maybe, but will the G5 be supported by MorphOS by then?

And a single core X86 may be the fastest new generation system available, but when will AROS be stable enough for reliable daily use?

Until either of those occur, the G4 Mac is the most powerful NG machine.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: wawrzon on August 31, 2010, 10:03:46 PM
my knowledge is second hand, but in light of what i have read about the said contract i dont understand the reason for it being marked confidential. maybe someone can enlighten me, i believe it contains no corporate secrets, only that the terms, dates and prices could be a little more disapointing than expected. and, frankly, who woulnt expect thhta these informations will not leak to the public in a matters of hours? in this community? in my opinion it would be much more constructive if this initiative was based on more trust and cooperation, not on secrecy. honestly, it isnt any breakthrough technology developed here.
Title: Re: A-EON Website updated release date
Post by: dammy on September 01, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
I'm amazed people aren't talking about the price of these beta boards vs the fuss of the NDA agreement hitting the web.  Had Ben been a real IP attorney, he would have done two NDAs, generic one and THEN A1X1K's NDA after getting the generic one back.  But we know his past record with AI's contracts and this NDA fiasco is yet another example of his capabilities or lack there of.

So if the retail price is going to be close to or over 1500 (350 more then the mobo/cpu/ram beta deal) plus 20% VAT, that should make it 1800 GBPs plus shipping.  Few upgrades and 2,000 GBPs plus shipping.  That's alot of money on this is side of the pond. Guess it's reasonable for Europeans?