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Title: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: amiga1084 on August 24, 2010, 11:32:52 AM: Hello All,

I've been checking out prices on Ebay on genuine Escom A4000T and they seem to sell for a hole lot less than genuine A3000T, I am wondering why besides the better build quality case A4000T has a hole lot more going for it like AGA, Fastscsi 2,newer chip set etc etc etc

Check out this A3000T on Ebay at the moment
http://cgi.ebay.de/COMMODORE-AMIGA-3000T-ower-68030-68882-25-MHz-18-420MB-/220655966673?pt=Klassische_Computer

I would like to hear your comments on this subject

Thanks in advance,

Merv Stent
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: tone007 on August 24, 2010, 11:40:08 AM: ...genuine ...Escom?

I think the Escom 4000T's (still available NOS last I heard) are alot more common than the 3000Ts. If a C= 4000T ever showed up, though, you can bet it'd blow away the 3000T's on eBay.
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: alloyv on August 24, 2010, 12:23:47 PM: built-in VGA and SCSI ports. No need add-on cards.
That could be the beginning of the answer.
Moreover the tower version is very rare.
A "must have" :)
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: mdivancic on August 24, 2010, 12:26:48 PM: Quote from: amiga1084;575967
Hello All,

I've been checking out prices on Ebay on genuine Escom A4000T and they seem to sell for a hole lot less than genuine A3000T, I am wondering why besides the better build quality case A4000T has a hole lot more going for it like AGA, Fastscsi 2,newer chip set etc etc etc

Check out this A3000T on Ebay at the moment
http://cgi.ebay.de/COMMODORE-AMIGA-3000T-ower-68030-68882-25-MHz-18-420MB-/220655966673?pt=Klassische_Computer

I would like to hear your comments on this subject

Thanks in advance,

Merv Stent

I have had both. Once you add a good accelerator and a graphics card there is not much difference, unless you plan on playing games. The built in flicker fixer on the A3000T allows you to pass flicker fixed video through a card like the Picasso II, allowing you to use one monitor. With the A4000T you have to get a Picasso IV. The A4000T is easer to find memory for, and if I remember right has one more Zorro slot. The A4000T uses standard power supplies, which was a big deal a couple of years ago when my A3000T supply went bad. (Took a while to find one.) When I had to start thinning out old computers a couple of years ago, the reason I kept the A4000T over the A3000T was the AGA graphics.
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: dougal on August 24, 2010, 01:12:26 PM: The A4000T may be more common but i still have not been able to find a "Front door" for mine. :(
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: amiga92570 on August 24, 2010, 01:24:31 PM: check softhut for door
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: mousehouse on August 24, 2010, 03:29:00 PM: I've tried to get my hands on a Amiga 3000T for quite a while. They are rare and when sold - outrageously expensive to ship. IMHO you can only get one when it falls through your roof or you find one in the neighbors garage... Otherwise, too many collectors and traders active, thus high prices.
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: scuzzb494 on August 24, 2010, 05:28:43 PM: An A3000T made by Commodore is a classic piece or original Amiga hardware and truly a beautiful thing to have. An A4000T from Escom is a post Commodore machine and available even today if I recall. If you could find an original A4000T from the Commodore days then please contact me private. So as a collectors piece the 3000T is going to fetch more. Saying that my first A3000T cost £100. My first A4000T cost £750. My second A3000T cost £325. I even have a brand new spare case for the A4000T. Sadly not for sale.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz69.htm

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz126.htm

I would suggest anything A4000 is going to give you the most options for expansion for more modern options. An A4000d in a tower is probably still the most versatile... But thats only my view.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz383.htm
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: gdanko on August 24, 2010, 06:14:28 PM: I'm selling my very clean, non-yellowed, 3000T for ~700 USD + shipping. I don't have the box but mine is certainly nicer looking and it comes with an extra front plastic piece.
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: mousehouse on August 24, 2010, 06:33:58 PM: Quote from: gdanko;576051
I'm selling my very clean, non-yellowed, 3000T for ~700 USD + shipping. I don't have the box but mine is certainly nicer looking and it comes with an extra front plastic piece.

Nice ;-) What are you including? You'll probably put it up in Marketplace?

Also, I have a bad feeling about the Ebay auction of the 3000T, just look at the bidding history and draw your own conclusions...

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Gebruikersnaam: a***x( 0 ) EUR 695,00 24-aug-10 18:07:52 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 693,00 24-aug-10 19:26:05 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 683,00 24-aug-10 19:25:57 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 673,00 24-aug-10 19:25:49 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 663,00 24-aug-10 19:25:40 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 653,00 24-aug-10 19:25:32 CEST Gebruikersnaam: a***x( 0 ) EUR 650,00 23-aug-10 16:10:23 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 643,00 24-aug-10 19:25:24 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 633,00 24-aug-10 19:25:17 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 623,00 24-aug-10 19:25:08 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 613,00 24-aug-10 19:25:00 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 603,00 24-aug-10 19:24:52 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 593,00 24-aug-10 19:24:44 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 583,00 24-aug-10 19:24:35 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 573,00 24-aug-10 19:24:27 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 7***t( 303) EUR 563,00 24-aug-10 19:24:17 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 9***i( 6 ) EUR 553,00 22-aug-10 11:49:56 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 2***p( 54) EUR 550,00 21-aug-10 12:05:54 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 9***i( 6 ) EUR 515,00 18-aug-10 01:13:58 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 2***p( 54) EUR 500,00 21-aug-10 12:04:44 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 2***p( 54) EUR 450,00 21-aug-10 12:04:01 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 2***p( 54) EUR 430,00 21-aug-10 12:03:31 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 2***p( 54) EUR 415,00 21-aug-10 12:02:17 CEST Gebruikersnaam: m***r( 24) EUR 407,00 19-aug-10 12:55:18 CEST Gebruikersnaam: m***r( 24) EUR 405,00 19-aug-10 12:55:08 CEST Gebruikersnaam: 9***i( 6 ) EUR 401,00 17-aug-10 21:14:12 CEST Startprijs EUR 400,00 17-aug-10 21:01:39 CEST
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: Oli_hd on August 24, 2010, 06:39:44 PM: The A3000T is a much rarer machine than the a4000T, I have every major release except the A3KT. (Major meaning I dont have a A2500, A1500... wouldnt mind a A3500 though heh)
In the UK you never see them come up!
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: billchase on August 24, 2010, 07:31:46 PM: My memory is a little fuzzy here so please bear with me if I give misinformation.

The Escom 4000T and the C= 4000T are essentially the same parts internally, at least early on. My Escom 4000T had some C= branded parts, I just don't remember which specific ones. I do know the Escom 4000T case was an AT case made by Enlight. I found extra drive rails at one of my local pc shops. The power supply likewise, just a standard "AT" type.
Title: Re: Genuine A3000T worth more than Genuine A4000T???
Post by: slayer on August 25, 2010, 05:57:08 AM: It's a nice kit :)