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Title: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 12, 2010, 12:25:36 AM
Finally, in my A3000D, I got everything working and I didn't really do anything special but install a new Buster 11 from AmigaKit. This one goes to eeeeleven! :)

I now have all this working:

ZoroRam 128MB
Deneb
Toccata sound card

So, I can't prove it, but I think the new Buster 11 I got is different and happy in the A3000D. Before, the HD was freezeing up, computer locked up. The old B11 I tried before, my cat Yoie got it; was playing hockey with it and it's probably under the fridge. I don't miss it! Yoie knows how to fix theses things.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Dragster on August 12, 2010, 12:28:20 AM
Kewl, now you just have to find the righteous brothers....

Ramsey7 and SuperDMAC 04...

Good luck,

Cheers.

Dragster
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Franko on August 12, 2010, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: TheGoose;574399
Finally, in my A3000D, I got everything working and I didn't really do anything special but install a new Buster 11 from AmigaKit. This one goes to eeeeleven! :)


Nice one TheGoose... :) Keep the Amiga Alive... :)
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 12, 2010, 12:33:17 AM
Quote from: Franko;574402
Nice one TheGoose... :) Keep the Amiga Alive... :)


I'm gonna use for music, I use my old ass computers!
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: x56h34 on August 12, 2010, 02:25:05 PM
Quote
This one goes to eeeeleven! :)


A Spinal Tap quote? :-)
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 12, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: x56h34;574472
A Spinal Tap quote? :-)


yeah, I thought that was common knowledge.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: x56h34 on August 12, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
Quote from: TheGoose;574487
yeah, I thought that was common knowledge.


I only saw to movie last year, for the first time. :laugh1:
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Iggy on August 12, 2010, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: x56h34;574488
I only saw to movie last year, for the first time. :laugh1:

Don't sweat that. Tony Iommi (guitar-Black Sabbath) didn't see it when it came out either and the movie pokes fun at his band (which during their Born Again tour with singer Ian Gillian used a mock up of Stonehenge on stage).

Brilliant stuff, Spinal Tap. What's frightening is the guys can actually play this stuff in concert.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 12, 2010, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: Dragster;574400
Kewl, now you just have to find the righteous brothers....

Ramsey7 and SuperDMAC 04...

Good luck,

Cheers.

Dragster

Dragster, what will those chips offer / do ?
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Franko on August 12, 2010, 11:40:59 PM
Quote from: TheGoose;574534
Dragster, what will those chips offer / do ?


About as much as the righteous brothers... :) :) :)
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: johnklos on August 12, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
I bought a Buster version 11, but it wouldn't work in my A3000D. With it installed, none of the Zorro cards would be recognized, so I reinstalled my Buster version 7.

From where did you get your Buster 11?
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 13, 2010, 12:07:20 AM
Quote from: johnklos;574538
I bought a Buster version 11, but it wouldn't work in my A3000D. With it installed, none of the Zorro cards would be recognized, so I reinstalled my Buster version 7.

From where did you get your Buster 11?


I got this one from AmigaKit, I feel lucky that it did work, cause like I said an earlier one did not. I have learned that there were different B11 chips, for different machines, makes sense if you think about it:

A3000 DMA for SCSI would be different than that of a A4000 IDE DMA, right?
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: alexh on August 13, 2010, 08:46:09 PM
I've never seen different versions of Buster Rev 11. Not to say they don't exist but I'd like to see some evidence.

A4000 IDE does not have DMA.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Zac67 on August 13, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Nope - just a single Super Buster (various revs though). Guess the one that didn't work was just dead.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 13, 2010, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: Zac67;574680
Nope - just a single Super Buster (various revs though). Guess the one that didn't work was just dead.


That's what I meant, a revision. I suppose it could have just been a bad. Like I said at the start, have no way to prove it.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 14, 2010, 01:43:00 AM
And tonight I just installed a bad ass:

Seagate Cheetah 18.4GB Hard Drive 15,000 RPM
link (http://www.superwarehouse.com/Seagate_Cheetah_18_4GB_Hard_Drive/ST318453LC/ps/209110)

To replace the shipped drive which was:

IBM DPES-31080-S1S (1.05GB) 5400 RPM
link (http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/AD67B0504C1E00AF87256C17005E9FA2/$file/dpes3xxx_ds.pdf)

It's Smokin.

:afro:
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: tone007 on August 14, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
Quote from: TheGoose;574703
15,000 RPM


That's more than twice the redline of most cars' engines!
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 14, 2010, 01:57:22 AM
My Amiga now goes whooo whooo! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkmWQ5A0SqY)


Yeah I'm in the F1 ranks now.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: alexh on August 16, 2010, 09:04:44 AM
Quote from: TheGoose;574691
That's what I meant, a revision.
Erm the -11 is the revision. If you had a different revision, then it wouldn't be a Buster 11 :)

Quote from: TheGoose;574691
I suppose it could have just been a bad.
I very much suspect that. AFAIK there is only one Buster -11
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: johnklos on August 18, 2010, 02:46:16 AM
Damn - so I guess I should try to exchange my non-working Buster-11... What a pain in the...

On the other hand, even though my A3000 has a Buster-7, I can still boot NetBSD with a FastLane Z3 and use the Z3 memory without problems. I suppose if I tried to use the SCSI on the FastLane it'd probably be cranky...
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Mark on August 18, 2010, 05:37:54 AM
Quote from: johnklos;574538
I bought a Buster version 11, but it wouldn't work in my A3000D. With it installed, none of the Zorro cards would be recognized, so I reinstalled my Buster version 7.


If you have a 16 MHz A3000 then that is normal:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=318304#post318304
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: johnklos on August 18, 2010, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: Mark;575224
If you have a 16 MHz A3000 then that is normal:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=318304#post318304


Thank you. An answer, even if it isn't what we wanted to hear, is more satisfying than a lingering mystery. At least I won't buy another thinking this one is bad.

At 16 MHz, there won't be much of a speed difference between the motherboard SCSI and the FastLane SCSI, so I think it'll be fine just as it is.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Zac67 on August 18, 2010, 06:29:58 PM
It's pretty easy to change a 16 MHz machine to 25 MHz. Nothing more than exchange the oscillator clock and move a few jumpers. The CPU/FPU may be rated at 16 MHz but MC parts were qualified at double(!) clock speed.
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: TheGoose on August 18, 2010, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: Zac67;575283
It's pretty easy to change a 16 MHz machine to 25 MHz. Nothing more than exchange the oscillator clock and move a few jumpers. The CPU/FPU may be rated at 16 MHz but MC parts were qualified at double(!) clock speed.



Hmm, so this applies to to the 25Mhz machines too? We could go to 50Mhz?
Title: Re: Buster 11 is working
Post by: Zac67 on August 18, 2010, 07:40:48 PM
Quote from: TheGoose;575284
Hmm, so this applies to to the 25Mhz machines too? We could go to 50Mhz?


In theory. It's not just the CPU/FPU combo that'd be running at that speed.

The jumpers that need to be moved from 16 to 25 MHz add wait states for ROM and RAM which wouldn't be able to respond within 40 ns. But there's no setting for clock speeds beyond 25.