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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Xanxi on July 28, 2010, 05:49:00 PM
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Hi.
I have one of those USB adapters for a standard optical logitech mouse, working perfectly.
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6472/img0675male.jpg)
However i can't manage to use the wheel, even with FreeWheel from aminet.
If anyone has the same adaptor, is there any solution?
Newmouse seems useless, as this is not a serial mouse.
Thanks for helping.
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This adapter does not support the wheel. Nobody has got it to work yet, although the ebay advert says it should work.
This is a rip-off. Better buy a Cocolino or Micromys or build your own ps2m.
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I too tried this adaptor, could never get it to work with the scroll wheel either.
Cocolino works perfectly with any mice that I have tried, the best mouse I have found were Technika brand, this mouse is wireless and last for about 6 days on rechargeable batteries. Cost £7.95 from Tescos... :)
Franko
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@Xanxi: can you try to fit the adapter on AMIGA A600 ?
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Pity it does not work with the wheel because this adapter is perfect for everything else. And it can power flawlessly all the optical mices i tried.
As for the A600, i still have to check (my 2 A600 are not at home, i need to look for them in the stocking room i rent): i will update this thread as soon as i try.
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this mouse is wireless and last for about 6 days on rechargeable batteries.
Ouch, I think i'd rather use regular alkaline then and change them every 6 months.
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Ouch, I think i'd rather use regular alkaline then and change them every 6 months.
I am quite sure that even alkaline batteries won't hold six months if rechargable batteries are emptied within six days. I've got a Logitech Ex-100 desktop and still use my rather old 800mAh rechargables and they last at least two or three weeks. Actually I cannot tell how long they really last because I don't remember when I needed to recharge last time.
The keyboard is even better. It uses the smaller AAA-sized batteries and they last for at least six months with one charge.
A cheap mouse does not necessarily mean that it costs less money if you take battery usage into account.
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I don't think that clamshell case will let you plug the adapter into an A600 unless you have a 9-pin extension cord or a Joy/Mouse Switcher plugged in first.
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Ouch, I think i'd rather use regular alkaline then and change them every 6 months.
ere... what's wrong with rechargeables :)
I have been using the same 4 AAA (two at time in the mouse) for almost four years, They cost less than .06 pence to recharge and have no sign of giving up yet... :)
and I am doing my bit to help save the planet... less waste and all that C%@P... :lol:
Cheers :drink:
Franko
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Hi.
I have just tried the USB adapter on my good old A600 and it does not fit the port.
By the way, i have dig out an old Mroocheck that should work with FreeWheel, but for now i prefer USB mouse than PS2.
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Will this work with razer mice like deathadder or logitech mx revolution wireless? These mice need more power than usual optical mice and won't work with other ps2 mice adapters on the amiga.
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I have this adapter and it doesnt even work will all mice. Works fine with my Logitech Trackman Marble but won't with another Logitech mouse i tried.
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I hate to necro a thread, but I ordered one of the adapters that are in the original post, and as everyone else has said, the mouse wheel doesn't work (I have one of the USB Boing Ball Mice that Amiga Kit sells). I did pop the thing open and find a PIC16F628-20/P Microcontroller in it (At least I think that's what it was, it was rather difficult, even with a (crappy) magnifying glass to see what it was.
If this is a programmable microcontroller, is it possible to add support for the mouse wheels?
It's not terribly important to me if we could, I mostly bought this so that it'd work in games and such (the two buttons) since I have a USB card that I can switch to for full wheel support in Workbench.
slaapliedje
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What auction was this?
If it's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-USB-mouse-adapter-Brand-new-/120814385754?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item1c21193a5a
The wheel works fine, just need him to email you the drivers and follow the instructions on installing it.
It's exactly the same as his
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-USB-Mouse-Adapter-PS-2-USB-Brand-New-/120777266394?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item1c1ee2d4da
Which I also have and wheel works fine with that once the correct drivers are installed and setup as per his instructions.
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What auction was this?
If it's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-USB-mouse-adapter-Brand-new-/120814385754?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item1c21193a5a
The wheel works fine, just need him to email you the drivers and follow the instructions on installing it.
It's this one, and I'll do that! Would be nice if he just linked to them on the auction. Maybe I'll ask if he minds if I host them or not. Though I'm sure it'd be preferred to just have them on aminet.
It's exactly the same as his
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-USB-Mouse-Adapter-PS-2-USB-Brand-New-/120777266394?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item1c1ee2d4da
Which I also have and wheel works fine with that once the correct drivers are installed and setup as per his instructions.
I was looking at that one too, though couldn't figure out how it'd go into an A4000D.
slaapliedje
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I sent an email off and the reply was that the wheel will not work on that adapter, but it works on the second one. So if it would somehow fit inside an A4000D, it would be awesome! But alas, no luck there...
slaapliedje
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The instructions / driver that he sent me did not get the mouse wheel to work.
In reading a few things, there was something about needing some sort of wire to connect the adapter to the second joystick port?
Anyone else out there manage to get this adapter to support the mouse wheel through the normal joystick port? The seller said at first it wouldn't work, but then I mentioned this thread, and he sent me what 'may' work, but it did not.
slaapliedje
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Since i opened this thread, i have replaced this adapter by another to gain wheel control.
Now, i am looking for an adapter that can work with the RF 2,4GHz dongle from Logitech wireless mouse.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-USB-Mouse-Adapter-PS-2-USB-Brand-New-/120777266394?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item1c1ee2d4da
What would be great if there was a USB stack for this so that other USB devices could be plugged in :)
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What would be great if there was a USB stack for this so that other USB devices could be plugged in :) and work in non-workbench software.
Fixed that for you. :D
slaapliedje
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Since i opened this thread, i have replaced this adapter by another to gain wheel control.
Now, i am looking for an adapter that can work with the RF 2,4GHz dongle from Logitech wireless mouse.
Which adapter worked with the wheel? I tried this adapter with my Logitech MX1000, but it didn't work. I didn't try it in the Spider though.
I only want an adapter so I can use my optical mouse in games, so the lack of the wheel through the Amiga joystick port doesn't bother me too much, I just pull the mouse out of the back and put it into the side.
slaapliedje
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Fixed that for you. :D
slaapliedje
Really? that would be great if you have I would definitely buy one then, I've always wanted USB on my miggy would save me loads on blank discs.
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Really? that would be great if you have I would definitely buy one then, I've always wanted USB on my miggy would save me loads on blank discs.
Ha, I meant that the USB mice with mouse wheel only work in workbench friendly applications. So if I load up Dungeon Master, I have to plug in the USB to 9pin adapter to use the optical mouse, in which case the wheel doesn't work.
As far as saving money on blank disks, get one of these; http://torlus.com/floppy/
slaapliedje
P.S. For the record, there are two USB Stacks that I know of. Poseidon, and ANAIS. Neither of which would see anything going through this little adapter, which is basically just a PS/2 to 9 pin adapter, with support for USB connections.
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Which adapter worked with the wheel? I tried this adapter with my Logitech MX1000, but it didn't work. I didn't try it in the Spider though.
I only want an adapter so I can use my optical mouse in games, so the lack of the wheel through the Amiga joystick port doesn't bother me too much, I just pull the mouse out of the back and put it into the side.
slaapliedje
I found a homemade looking ps2 adapter in my junk and it is fine with a ps2 to usb adapter and a cables optical logitech mouse and its wheel.
I won't do that live switching of optical mouse. It could kill the CIA (optical mice need a lot of power).
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P.S. For the record, there are two USB Stacks that I know of. Poseidon, and ANAIS. Neither of which would see anything going through this little adapter, which is basically just a PS/2 to 9 pin adapter, with support for USB connections.
Of course they won't. It's not an USB controller, just an adapter.
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Of course they won't. It's not an USB controller, just an adapter.
I was just making sure carvedeye knew that. At first I thought he was being sarcastic, then realized maybe he wasn't, so I wanted to make sure I was clear on that.
slaapliedje
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Will this thing work with usb joysticks and controls? I need something for a miggy that will allow me to use my competition pro replica.
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I found a homemade looking ps2 adapter in my junk and it is fine with a ps2 to usb adapter and a cables optical logitech mouse and its wheel.
I won't do that live switching of optical mouse. It could kill the CIA (optical mice need a lot of power).
I haven't had issues yet. I'll keep that in mind though. I thought they only needed 1.5v or something. Honestly I'm surprised there is any power coming out of that port at all. Then again I've also always read that you shouldn't hot-plug PS/2 devices into a PC, but I've never had issues with that either.
Anyone else confirm or deny this? I've heard and read a lot of different things over the years about computer hardware, and a lot of times they're just stating things to be over cautious (like don't smoke around a computer, I first read that in the Atari Mega STe manual, and always wondered why until I saw these; http://www.squidoo.com/cigarette-smoke-computer-damage )
slaapliedje
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@slaapliedje
That's ok I was just curious, hopefully one day I can get the mediator expansion board as I have all the relevant cards for it including a USB card. :)
Still tempted in getting one of those adapters as my old ps2 mouse is starting to show its age plus if I do use an optical mouse I wont need to clean the innards any more :)
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That's why I got the adapter! So that I didn't have to worry about cleaning the mouse ball. That and I wanted to use my Aeon mouse with the boing ball on it as my main mouse, it's so much smother in movement than the ball one.
slaapliedje
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So I decided to see if I could figure out how much power an optical mouse actually takes. I found this posting; http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/29891-35-optical-mouse-power-consumption
Consider, an optical mouse has one LED that illuminates the surface on which
it runs, while a ball mouse typically has two LEDs that illuminate the two
position sensors. So all else being equal the ball mouse will draw twice
the power and present twice the radiation hazard.
Don't know how accurate that is, but it would be rather ironic if it's true...
slaapliedje
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One quick note. When using my USB mouse through this adapter, if I click on a scroll bar and drag downwards a bit, then stop with the mouse held down, the mouse will stop moving until I let go of the button. This does not happen with the normal 2 button mouse.
Also, my Logitech 'Performance MX' wireless mouse works fine through the Spider card, but not through the USB to 9pin adapter. Which probably is just because it doesn't supply enough power. It's 5v 100ma for the 'Boing Ball' mouse.
slaapliedje