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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Hardware News => Topic started by: ozkano on July 11, 2010, 07:42:57 AM
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http://retromaster.wordpress.com/ufe/
UFE is an SD/MMC floppy drive emulator for old computers. It connects to the floppy drive port of the host computer and behaves like a real floppy drive, except that the data comes from the SD/MMC card instead of real media.
Features
Read/Write access for Commodore AMIGA, Atari ST and Amstrad CPC computers.
On-board support for ADF, DSK, ST and MSA images. No conversion on PC necessary.
Standard IDC 34-pin floppy connector.
Can emulate two floppy drives.
Video overlay user interface: 72 columns by 30 lines text mode.
Allows use of host system keyboard to control user interface.
Buzzer for emulating head stepping ticks.
Can co-exist with other floppy drives on the same bus (not tested).
Full FAT32 support (incl. long file names and directories) for the SD Card. SDHC support.
Firmware updates can be made through SD Card.
PIC32 MCU @80Mhz, 16Mb SDRAM. Double-sided PCB.
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nice idea
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'nice idea' doesn't even begin to describe just how good this is.
Very, very elegant implementation, this should bring flash based storage to all amigas and breathe new life to mothballed A500s.
A more general version bring an end the inflationary pressures on HD FDDs (I've been looking for one for my A3000 for ages but I might settle for something like this instead).
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Brilliant! Read & Write access and 2 emulated floppies!
A great way of salvaging a stock A1200 or A500 and turning them into a games machine with no HDLoad or hard drive needed.
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Very nice news.
:)
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Excellent! This is the first floppy emulator which has tempted me. Any ideas yet whether it's going to be commercially available?
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moto
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the author says he has no plans to commercialise it himself, but would be open to receiving offers from interested companies. The question is what company could have an interest in this? Jens et al. or maybe even AmigaKit?
There's no clue as to what the ultimate cost of that might be, which would ultimately determine the size of the market. I expect the keyboard interface and video overlay circuitry don't come cheap. A generalised version could be made to appeal to all sorts of scenarios where floppies used to dominate (music synths, embedded PCs, retro computers) and then one is talking business...
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Hi everyone... As my nickname would suggest, I am the guy who designed and developed this floppy emulator :)
Contrary to what one might imagine, the keyboard interface and video overlay circuitry are not expensive at all. The video overlay circuitry basically consists of a 74lv244 which costs about $0.5 (single) and the heart of the A500 keyboard daughterboard is a PIC24F04, which costs about $2.5 (single). The keyboard daughterboard is just a single-sided PCB, which also helps reduce costs.
The most expensive component on the main board is the PIC32MX575 microcontroller, which costs about $10 (single). As with most homebrew, low-volume projects, I would expect the PCB cost to be the highest value in the equation, but that also depends on the volume. There are a few hidden costs such as the wiring harnesses and cabling but I would not expect those to add a lot.
So, I guess, in the hands of the right people, this project could be manufactured and sold for a reasonable price. Unfortunately, I do not think I am the right person, because of two main reasons: First, I do not have enough time to devote to a commercialization effort (as this is mainly a hobby project for me), and second, I have no experience in that area.
Anyway, now that I am here, I would be glad to answer any questions any of you might have... :)
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Hi retromania,
thanks for writing here - and welcome to a.org!
Congratulations on a fantastic job - I very much hope someone with the required skills and experience will help you commercialise this - like I said above the market is potentially much greater than a few amiga nostalgics: Floppies are being phased out, but the ability to convert a FDD controller to a SD-card reader, together with a fancy interface overlayed over RGB is no trivial matter and a good number of people would be willing to pay handsomely for such.
Granted, the response here in a.org has been a bit underwhelming - the place is a shadow of its former self. Have you advertised this in other forums too? Try Amibay, Amigaworld.net, EAB - and what about non-amiga forums? I'll try to spread the word too.
Well done again - and please stick around.
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Amigean, thank you for your kind words, I am really glad you like my work.
I guess part of the reason why you might call the response here "underwhelming" is probably because perhaps people are not really that impressed by yet another floppy emulator, which is something I can understand :)
Nevertheless, I really appreciate your support to spread the word. Thanks again.
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Nice project. I really would love to see this commercialized, and am willing to put my money where my mouth is. PM sent.
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Yeah, I hate to say it, but I'd love this. Especially for my now mothballed 500. This would do a lot to get me to drag the old girl out and stop using UAE for a while.
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Just awesome!! This would make a perfect Amiga 500!! Just can't wait to see it commercialized, i would take one or two in the blink of an eye!
@retromaster
Thanks for a great work!! Really hope to further development on this.
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Amazing. I want one. :-)
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WOW great work i want 1 or 2 (if i can use them in my A2000,A3000,A4000 and A1200 i would take another 4 or 5). I hope someone picks this up and makes it available for us to buy.
Nice work keep it up.
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Excuse me, I'm older and have been out of the scene for a decade
I don't understand this. With no browsers for the Amiga how is one to get the software on the memory card?
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Excuse me, I'm older and have been out of the scene for a decade
I don't understand this. With no browsers for the Amiga how is one to get the software on the memory card?
Using any computer (PC, Mac, other Amiga...) with Internet access and a SD card reader. Also, existing Amiga browsers are more than capable of downloading files to be saved to SD card if you want to use an Internet-connected Amiga to do it.
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moto
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That is so chock full of win, a little bit of win is spilling out. I definitely want one :D
Lovely work!
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where can I find an Amiga Browser that runs on 3.1 that works?
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UFE now supports the Amiga 1200 :) For pictures, please visit the project page at http://retromaster.wordpress.com/ufe.
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I'll be very interested to see how this comes out. Given the way that it interfaces, though, it seems like an Indivision-equipped machine (like all of mine) would not be able to see the GUI.
Any thoughts about that, Retromaster?
If it will work with an Indivision, I'm sold. Every one of my Amiga floppies is, in some way, questionable, and the "new old stock" 720k floppies that are being sold, these days, are completely unreliable.
Thanks!
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UFE now supports the Amiga 1200 :) For pictures, please visit the project page at http://retromaster.wordpress.com/ufe.
I guess by Amiga 1200 support you mean high density? Since the floppy signals are the same for Amiga 500/600/1200/2000/3000/4000 in double density mode.
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@Ajacocks: I am afraid I am not very familiar with Indivision, however, in theory, it is possible to do the overlay on any kind of analog RGB output. The major difference with the Indivision would be that the horizontal scanning frequency is doubled, but with some firmware modifications UFE should be able to cope with that. If the hooks used for the UFE video connection can be attached to the Indivision without problem, there is a good chance it could be made to work.
@amigaksi: I meant that there is now a keyboard daughterboard available for the Amiga 1200, which means that the A1200 keyboard can be used to control UFE. Otherwise, floppy interface-wise, UFE already supports all Amiga and ST models + Amstrad CPC6128.
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nice to see this kind of cool device !!
it seems it's great...I really like the overlay
I want one
btw,Retromaster:
I have a question:
what about copy-protected software like original games....adf files with rare tracks or ipf files?
will work on that device?
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Laserback, thanks. IPF files are not supported at the moment. The hardware is perhaps even capable of variable bit-rate IPF support, but the trouble there is that the last time I checked the IPF file format was still undocumented, and there was only a binary library available on PC. Without the file format documentation, it is not possible add IPF support to UFE.
Could you explain a little what you mean by "adf files with rare tracks?"
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When will it be possible to buy this fine emulator?
Is it also possible to house it in an external case (as i like to have a real floppy drive in an amiga case)?