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Title: New Song
Post by: TheGoose on July 04, 2010, 04:15:28 PM
I give you another kind of strange and rough song, "Kit Plane". Not really finished but fit for geeks.

Done on A1200, OSS, crappy Yahmaha PSR 225 and crap guitar.

http://www.unc.edu/~johna/drupal6/?q=node/11
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: VingtTrois on July 04, 2010, 04:41:40 PM
...and voices by TheGoose? :)
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: TheGoose on July 04, 2010, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: VingtTrois;568942
...and voices by TheGoose? :)




And crap singing by TheGoose.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Debaser on July 04, 2010, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: TheGoose;568944
And crap singing by TheGoose.   :biglaugh:


Nawh.. good for you man... not the usual electro-mod stuff that I was assuming when I clicked the link :) (not that that is all bad though) - just wasn't expecting it..like it.

Your voice reminds me of the singer from Superchunk or something for whatever that is worth.
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: trekiej on July 04, 2010, 07:57:25 PM
sounds cool
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Karlos on July 04, 2010, 09:35:25 PM
+1
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: spihunter on July 04, 2010, 10:34:20 PM
@thegoose,

I guess your posting songs here now that Myspace is dead? ;)

Sorry I didn't get a chance to bring your A3000 back to you today. Maybe tomorrow?. you off work?
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 04, 2010, 11:01:26 PM
Nope, that was not crappy.  Actually good.  But then again, I really LIKE the sound of crappy Yamaha PSR keyboards, and computery blips.  My music is quite different than yours, but it's done with Amigas and crappy 1980s home/toy keyboards:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=256852

I think your voice is fine.  I don't need no American Idol sound-alike.
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: TheGoose on July 05, 2010, 01:21:34 AM
Quote from: ral-clan;568991
Nope, that was not crappy.  Actually good.  But then again, I really LIKE the sound of crappy Yamaha PSR keyboards, and computery blips.  My music is quite different than yours, but it's done with Amigas and crappy 1980s home/toy keyboards:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=256852

I think your voice is fine.  I don't need no American Idol sound-alike.

@ ral-clan - I really like your music, the old skool sounds, melodies, singing. Very cool. I just discover a bunch of free VSTi stuff of old drum machines and synths. But you add some acoustic stuff in there in a good way too.

going outside, coffee maker - you are bookmarked!

@ spihunter, no worries, just being off work and playing the toys you know. I will be here tomorrow. You are welcome to hold on to as long as you like. I am into my C64 and Missah thing right now.

Yeah, not gonna bother with myspace took everything down; just gonna share stuff here in the Amiga-verse for now. More cool music types here than I ever thought.
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: VingtTrois on July 05, 2010, 02:09:03 AM
Quote from: ral-clan;568991
Nope, that was not crappy.  Actually good.  But then again, I really LIKE the sound of crappy Yamaha PSR keyboards, and computery blips.  My music is quite different than yours, but it's done with Amigas and crappy 1980s home/toy keyboards:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=256852

I think your voice is fine.  I don't need no American Idol sound-alike.


For 'Coffee Maker' title: how many "ral-clan" for the vocal? :)
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 05, 2010, 12:47:31 PM
Quote from: VingtTrois;569008
For 'Coffee Maker' title: how many "ral-clan" for the vocal? :)


23 of course!

Seriously though --- yes it would be nice to have a chorus of backup singers, but it's just me here!
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: gertsy on July 05, 2010, 01:42:26 PM
Well done TheGoose. Fresh and well put together. I like it. Agree it could probably do with some more rehearsal and polish.
Not sure what Mic or voice recording you're using but I suggest you get your voice "out there" the track is hiding it. I agree with ral-clan sick of falsetto and idoling voices.
Lift the voice level! let us hear why you got sea sick threw up and had to doggie paddle. It's officially insane...!
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: gertsy on July 05, 2010, 02:00:23 PM
Quote from: ral-clan;568991
Nope, that was not crappy.  Actually good.  But then again, I really LIKE the sound of crappy Yamaha PSR keyboards, and computery blips.  My music is quite different than yours, but it's done with Amigas and crappy 1980s home/toy keyboards:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=256852

I think your voice is fine.  I don't need no American Idol sound-alike.


@ral-clan
I love "My Piano" .. Learning music channel  LOL.  "Going outside" freaks me out...rhythm and melody of a journey piece but krisp staccato percussion, electronic druids ohhh'ing in the background. He kept saying "good-bye" but when he started to fade I wanted him to stay.
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: spihunter on July 05, 2010, 02:05:33 PM
Quote from: TheGoose;569003
@ ral-clan - I really like your music, the old skool sounds, melodies, singing. Very cool. I just discover a bunch of free VSTi stuff of old drum machines and synths. But you add some acoustic stuff in there in a good way too.

going outside, coffee maker - you are bookmarked!

@ spihunter, no worries, just being off work and playing the toys you know. I will be here tomorrow. You are welcome to hold on to as long as you like. I am into my C64 and Missah thing right now.

Yeah, not gonna bother with myspace took everything down; just gonna share stuff here in the Amiga-verse for now. More cool music types here than I ever thought.


Yea, I actually get quite a few hits from A.org on my Battlestar Canada Reverbnation page that's linked in my signature!. who knew there were so many music weirdo's over here?
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: gertsy on July 05, 2010, 02:26:11 PM
Quote from: spihunter;569085
Yea, I actually get quite a few hits from A.org on my Battlestar Canada Reverbnation page that's linked in my signature!. who knew there were so many music weirdo's over here?


Ohh Yeah...!

Quote of the site: "Dude, can I please have my ABBA record back? You've had it for like 5 f***ing years! There are no good samples on there! give up!"

Not true, there is some great sampling to be had on "Arrival"....Sad...
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: TheGoose on July 05, 2010, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: spihunter;569085
Yea, I actually get quite a few hits from A.org on my Battlestar Canada Reverbnation page that's linked in my signature!. who knew there were so many music weirdo's over here?


Hobby Store is awesome. And I like "we don't care where our powers come from..." in BSC
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 05, 2010, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: gertsy;569084
@ral-clan
I love "My Piano" .. Learning music channel  LOL.  "Going outside" freaks me out...rhythm and melody of a journey piece but krisp staccato percussion, electronic druids ohhh'ing in the background. He kept saying "good-bye" but when he started to fade I wanted him to stay.


Thanks!  Didn't know anyone took the time to listen to the lyrics!

Looking forward to listening to Battlestar Canada later.
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 09, 2010, 02:40:52 AM
Quote from: spihunter;569085
Yea, I actually get quite a few hits from A.org on my Battlestar Canada Reverbnation page that's linked in my signature!. who knew there were so many music weirdo's over here?
That Battlestar Canada stuff was really good!
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: spihunter on July 09, 2010, 08:51:41 PM
Thanks ral-clan!

I'll listen to your stuff when I get home. soundclick is blocked at work..:(


Quote from: ral-clan;569583
That Battlestar Canada stuff was really good!
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: yssing on July 09, 2010, 11:51:19 PM
not bad at all...
If only the guitar wasnt so loud..
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: spihunter on July 10, 2010, 01:09:18 AM
@ral-clan,

The OVOIDS are awesome man!. If you lived near me we would have to play some shows together!. Let me know if you ever want play near Durham, NC? ;)

Quote from: ral-clan;569583
That Battlestar Canada stuff was really good!
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Drummerboy on July 10, 2010, 02:48:29 AM
As idea - sample model.. its fine.. Just need polish some details.. And careful with the tuning of the voice.. go ahead..
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: TheGoose on July 10, 2010, 03:51:19 AM
Quote from: Drummerboy;569742
As idea - sample model.. its fine.. Just need polish some details.. And careful with the tuning of the voice.. go ahead..



Thanks guys, that's the idea; just putting forth some sketch, of how it could be. All helpful remarks and thanks for taking a listen.
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Plaz on July 10, 2010, 04:04:39 AM
Quote from: TheGoose;568936
I give you another kind of strange and rough song, "Kit Plane". Not really finished but fit for geeks.


Great start, nice tune. In your mixes make the vocal the star.



@ral-clan
Dang ral-clan, can I join the band? Some of those tunes make a small group of reclusive brain cells some where in my head very happy. And I'm listening to lyrics too.

Plaz
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 10, 2010, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: spihunter;569731
@ral-clan,

The OVOIDS are awesome man!. If you lived near me we would have to play some shows together!. Let me know if you ever want play near Durham, NC? ;)

Thanks guys!  I really appreciate that.  When I made these I didn't think there were other people who like dweebly electro lounge music.

As for playing live!  Would love to...I've played live lots in other bands playing other genres of music...but unfortunately not with this "band".  The Ovoids is a solo concept project due to the fact I live in a smallish town and there aren't many people who share the same musical aesthetic as me!

Great to hear the talent on here of TheGoose and Battlestar Canada - and using Commodore / Amiga stuff is the icing on the cake.  Hope there are others that come out of the woodwork and let us hear their stuff!

Keep on Beeping!
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: don27dog on July 10, 2010, 03:07:21 PM
I enjoyed the song.. Well done!
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Plaz on July 16, 2010, 03:42:03 AM
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Hope there are others that come out of the woodwork and let us hear their stuff!


Ok, this probably won't fit the typical genre around here. Kinda stage rock/inspirational I guess. But they were recorded on my A3000 using 2 AD516 cards many years ago.  All instuments/vocals by me, and guitars are live. Wild Reaction is pretty complete, Amigaland is an unfinished instrumental, a couple more short samples of other completed stuff farther down the page.

I started just messing around making this page, but never finished. Maybe I'll get around to posting more complete stuff some day. Meet "Destroy Silvey"...

http://www.myspace.com/destroysilvey

Plaz
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: inoel on July 16, 2010, 03:53:43 AM
http://ubetoo.com/aciddads/32764

this tune is also on Amitopia TV!!


and our facebook is here
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=133882949974552


noel
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 16, 2010, 12:32:44 PM
Quote from: Plaz;570632
Ok, this probably won't fit the typical genre around here.
 Kinda stage rock/inspirational I guess.


Very well recorded.  You're right that it's different that the other music posted here....very prog-rock or Toto or something - that's not my genre so I'm probably bad at describing that.

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But they were recorded on my A3000 using 2 AD516 cards many years ago.


I almost went this route (but I would only have been able to afford one card.  It was the mid-1990s and only the Amiga could really do a good job at audio multitracking because of this great card.  Instead I went with a dedicated hardware multitracker (Yamaha MD-8) synced to my Amiga MIDI sequencer - that setup worked pretty well.

I'm guessing that there was no easy way to back up your AD516 multitrack recording from the Amiga's hard drive in the early to mid-1990s (no external media that could hold that much data).  So what did you do?  Back up each track to analogue tape one by one, or just delete your master tracks after mix-down to external analogue tape?
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Plaz on July 16, 2010, 03:17:27 PM
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that's not my genre so I'm probably bad at describing that.


I think Toto-ish is a pretty good analogy. When young I was very influenced by stuff like much of motown and groups like journey, ambrosia, the cars, men at work, little river band, ac-dc, def leppard, the police and many others. Toto had some I liked too.

Greg Hamm of Men At work actually contacted me long ago based on some posting I had made. We traded mail for a while until he got too busy with touring. I think that was around '96-97. One of the songs on their "Brazil" album was completely recorded in his basement on an A3000 with 4 AD516 cards. I'll see if I can look up which it was exactly.

Recently I worked with another friend who's very in to  Euro/Techno. Those samples would probably fit here better.

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I almost went this route (but I would only have been able to afford one card.


I had similar trouble. I was looking to go PC, dat or sequencer too at that time because Amiga was fading and the hardware was expensive and hard to find. I eventually got lucky and found two cards at a nice price. Amiga was much more stabel as the early PC and DAT systems were crashing our tracks all the time.

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I'm guessing that there was no easy way to back up your AD516 multitrack recording from the Amiga's hard drive


Actually there were ZIP drives. At about 1meg/minute/track/stereo, you could get all your tracks for maybe 3 songs on a 100meg ZIP. I backed stuff up to a second drive and to ZIP. ZIP made it pretty easy to move files from the Amiga to PC. I also used another util to transfer/backup files over parallel cable to the PC.

Later I took some of the Amiga tracks, moved them to PC, used cooledit (now known as adobe audition) to convert them to wav (if I recall) and then remixed them there. From there I could burn to CD, convert to mp3 or whatever.

I still have my A3000 recording machine, still works, all old files still intact. I can't say when or if may use it again. I've thought about selling but just can't bring myself to do it.

Well I hope I haven't dragged this thread too off course.

Plaz
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 16, 2010, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: Plaz;570679
Greg Hamm of Men At work actually contacted me long ago based on some posting I had made. We traded mail for a while until he got too busy with touring. I think that was around '96-97. One of the songs on their "Brazil" album was completely recorded in his basement on an A3000 with 4 AD516 cards. I'll see if I can look up which it was exactly.


Now that's a neat bit of trivia.  One thing I've always wondered about the AD516...it didn't have too many software effects (just reverb, that had to be applied all at once to a track as I recall).  So how did you apply effects to tracks?  Did you send individual channels to an external mixer and use the AUX/SEND buses on each channel to send it to a hardware effects box?

I assume you weren't mixing down in the Amiga, but rather to an external DAT or something?

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I still have my A3000 recording machine, still works, all old files still intact. I can't say when or if may use it again. I've thought about selling but just can't bring myself to do it.


I know what you mean.  I still keep my old MD8, even though it hasn't been used in a year and a half.  It worked so well for me that I just can't bear to part with it.  It was a very capable little multitracker that was cutting edge around 1998 and could still produce nice stuff today if you don't mind being limited to eight tracks.

Here is a pic of my home studio (with the A2000) which I used until 2008, when the A2000 developed problems.  

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1690

Great system.  Today an IBM PC replaces the A2000, but it runs UAE a lot of the time for Bars & Pipes and other stuff the A2000 used to do.  Because the PC is so very capable of running modern multitracker DAW software (i.e. REAPER) the MD8 multitracker and the external hardware effects boxes are no longer required, although I still use the MD8 as a mixer for synths when recording in the DAW.
Title: Re: New Song
Post by: Ral-Clan on July 16, 2010, 09:57:43 PM
Don't know if you guys have ever seen this old article with a strong Amiga/music/recording slant:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1996_articles/jan96/amiga.html