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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: amigasociety on June 28, 2010, 10:56:14 PM

Title: Trade: BeBox No Longer Available
Post by: amigasociety on June 28, 2010, 10:56:14 PM
The BeBox is no longer on the chopping block.  Thanks.  tj

Here is what the BeBox looks like.
http://gallery.me.com/macsociety/100173/DSCF3853/web.jpg
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: AltRN8 on June 29, 2010, 01:32:00 AM
Man I wish I had a Pegasos II to trade with you. I gave up a slightly broken BeBox years ago and have regretted it ever since. I can't imagine why you would give this one up!
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: Debaser on June 29, 2010, 01:35:29 AM
Haiku + can of blue and white spray paint? :)
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on June 29, 2010, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: AltRN8;567886
Man I wish I had a Pegasos II to trade with you. I gave up a slightly broken BeBox years ago and have regretted it ever since. I can't imagine why you would give this one up!

I have been playing CDs on it today.  I have nice Bose 3 piece speaker system on it.  Multi-media machine from days gone by.

I may have seconds thoughts on this if an offer comes my way.  .  It is rather nice.  I have Gobe Productive on the way now so will see if that offers me more bang for my BeBox to use it.

I may also be open for other partial trades.  An Atari TT030 would be sweet.  8-)  

tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: AltRN8 on June 29, 2010, 02:43:13 AM
Haiku + paint + custom led rigging to show the dual processor activity to make it authentic :)
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on June 29, 2010, 04:10:14 PM
Quote from: AltRN8;567886
Man I wish I had a Pegasos II to trade with you. I gave up a slightly broken BeBox years ago and have regretted it ever since. I can't imagine why you would give this one up!

You have convinced me to hold onto it.

Or maybe those blinken lights have possessed me to keep her.  :hammer:

Don't know what I was thinking.  hehehe

tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: DBAlex on June 29, 2010, 04:48:16 PM
Quote from: amigasociety;567956
You have convinced me to hold onto it.

Or maybe those blinken lights have possessed me to keep her.  :hammer:

Don't know what I was thinking.  hehehe

tj


Would you consider a Pegasos I? (See sig)

Are you in the UK?
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on June 29, 2010, 04:50:19 PM
Quote from: DBAlex;567964
Would you consider a Pegasos I? (See sig)

Are you in the UK?

I am in USA.  Shipping would be crazy high plus I understand the Pegasos Is had issues.

Now if anyone has a slick Pegasos 2, I may be convinced to part with the BeBox.

tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: haywirepc on June 29, 2010, 09:06:46 PM
I have a dual pentium 200mhz motherboard loaded with 128 megs of ram if anyone wants to trade for something and build a box like this yourself...
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on June 30, 2010, 07:13:04 PM
Video of the BeBox for the heck of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq7aIcYJEt8
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: AJCopland on June 30, 2010, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: amigasociety;568234
I had made a video showing the BeBox booting and thought I would post it here for the heck of it.  Maybe a slick Pegasos II system might still entice me to trade or sell it.  I am waffling as it will be hard to let it go as they don't show up for sale often.  Anyway, enjoy the video showing old 1990s BeBox doing several things at once.

tj

YouTube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hfnlW0G-Q


I remember seeing a live demo of one of these at an ECTS many years ago running Quake whilst playing multiple audio streams with true 3D positioning. It was astonishing for its time, genuinely revolutionary... and then they disabled one of the CPUs in real-time without causing a single hitch. It really did blow everything I had ever seen before away completely.

Glad to see that there's still a couple out there in a working state and actually being used.

Andy
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on June 30, 2010, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: AJCopland;568237
I remember seeing a live demo of one of these at an ECTS many years ago running Quake whilst playing multiple audio streams with true 3D positioning. It was astonishing for its time, genuinely revolutionary... and then they disabled one of the CPUs in real-time without causing a single hitch. It really did blow everything I had ever seen before away completely.

Glad to see that there's still a couple out there in a working state and actually being used.

Andy

Yup, it is in my main home office and I have been using it daily.  Mostly playing music but I have it connected to the Internet and actually used it to browse the web using NetPositive.  hehehe.

And yes, kind of cool being able to turn off a CPU with the click of the mouse and see how things behave.  :)

tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: B00tDisk on June 30, 2010, 08:36:00 PM
Quote from: amigasociety;568234
I had made a video showing the BeBox booting and thought I would post it here for the heck of it.  Maybe a slick Pegasos II system might still entice me to trade or sell it.  I am waffling as it will be hard to let it go as they don't show up for sale often.  Anyway, enjoy the video showing old 1990s BeBox doing several things at once.

tj

YouTube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hfnlW0G-Q


I wouldn't let it go dude.  You've got some fairly modern apps to run on it, and honestly no *fewer* games than the Amiga has, classics aside.  You're not much "worse" off than if it was a Sam or Efika, and in many ways you're better off.

Plus if you decide to sell it in the future the price will be even sweeter (go look at what a functioning Lisa or Apple I will set you back).
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on July 01, 2010, 12:14:13 AM
Quote from: B00tDisk;568255
I wouldn't let it go dude.  You've got some fairly modern apps to run on it, and honestly no *fewer* games than the Amiga has, classics aside.  You're not much "worse" off than if it was a Sam or Efika, and in many ways you're better off.

Plus if you decide to sell it in the future the price will be even sweeter (go look at what a functioning Lisa or Apple I will set you back).

I would never say never myself but I am in no rush.  If a steller deal came my way I may be open to it but as of today, I am holding on tight.  I have so many Be books and the various BeOS CDs that maybe I will explore the Quad PPC Genesis by Daystar to have a balls a blazing BeOS PPC machine.  :roflmao:

Not sure why I listed it the other day but....

Since I can't delete this thread, I figured I would add to the fun with a video I had made but I am not really into selling or trading it anymore but always keep a slight door open.  

I just need to find a site that you can still download BeOS apps from that work on PPC.  Haiku is all about Intel and BeBits, almost all the links I go to for downloads fail.  :furious:

tj

tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: tone007 on July 01, 2010, 01:42:20 AM
AmigaOne!
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on July 01, 2010, 02:46:15 AM
Quote from: tone007;568302
AmigaOne!


I am not familiar with that machine or even know what it looks like. Would need more info and pics. I thought the old AmigaOnes had issues? Tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: B00tDisk on July 01, 2010, 03:55:21 AM
Quote from: amigasociety;568312
I am not familiar with that machine or even know what it looks like. Would need more info and pics. I thought the old AmigaOnes had issues? Tj


Broken/non-functional DMA, onboard sound was an issue (but was fixed by the community) onboard USB was/is non-functional (factory defect), stock cooling is HIGHLY suspect, they eat CMOS batteries like nobody's business, I think there was a DMA issue with the hard drives...

Essentially if you got an "old" amigaone, I'd be prepared to populate each and every slot and ignore any "onboard" hardware - get a sound card, get a NIC, get an ATA controller, obviously a video card, get a USB card, get an upgraded fan/heatsink.  Don't rely on anything the board itself has.
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on July 01, 2010, 04:06:19 AM
Quote from: B00tDisk;568322
Broken/non-functional DMA, onboard sound was an issue (but was fixed by the community) onboard USB was/is non-functional (factory defect), stock cooling is HIGHLY suspect, they eat CMOS batteries like nobody's business, I think there was a DMA issue with the hard drives...

Essentially if you got an "old" amigaone, I'd be prepared to populate each and every slot and ignore any "onboard" hardware - get a sound card, get a NIC, get an ATA controller, obviously a video card, get a USB card, get an upgraded fan/heatsink.  Don't rely on anything the board itself has.

I thought I saw something to this effect before in the forums.  :laughing:
tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: amigasociety on July 01, 2010, 04:12:18 AM
BeBox is off the market.  Thanks though for the couple offers made but not interested in any trades anymore.  tj
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: B00tDisk on July 01, 2010, 04:30:46 AM
Quote from: amigasociety;568325
I thought I saw something to this effect before in the forums.  :laughing:
tj


Yeah once you stock it up with cards to perform the functions the boards don't I hear it's actually a pretty sweet rig and until/unless/if the A1000x or whatever it's called gets released, the original A1s of long ago are still the fastest A1 boxes on the block.
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: Daedalus on July 01, 2010, 08:53:50 AM
It's terrible, but the A1 seems to be pretty much down to luck of the draw... I bought one second hand a couple of years ago which had had some of the "fixes" carried out. As a result it works perfectly well for everyday use. Onboard IDE works in non-DMA mode but I've put in a card to replace that. USB works fine in USB 1 mode, and in 3 years I've only put one battery in it... Also, fitted a nice Zalman cooler and now the CPU peaks at around 30 degrees C. Not a great board at all, but when you get it working as you need it's pretty sweet, and still holds up well against the SAMs.
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: tone007 on July 01, 2010, 11:10:48 AM
No issues I've seen with my early AmigaOne either, I'm betting it had a fix or two before I got it.
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: xeron on July 01, 2010, 11:29:47 AM
it does seem to be the luck of the draw. I got my a1 in 2003, it has had no fixes, and has the ioriginal cooling. All i have done is add a sii0680 card. I have no problems with stability or dma, and i've only replaced the battery once.
Title: Re: Trade: BeBox dual 133MHz for Pegasos II System
Post by: B00tDisk on July 01, 2010, 03:09:28 PM
Yeah, that was the kicker - why, it's almost like the A1 boxes were eval boards built by hand and the quality was entirely hit-or-miss!

:P