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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Amiga_Nut on June 27, 2010, 04:19:38 PM
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Because when a more or less working 2.5mb A1000 complete sells on ebay for £44 you have to wonder why.
I would expect a working A1000 motherboard alone to be worth this much but obviously it isn't or perhaps ebay is a complete waste if time.
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Because when a more or less working 2.5mb A1000 complete sells on ebay for £44 you have to wonder why.
I would expect a working A1000 motherboard alone to be worth this much but obviously it isn't or perhaps ebay is a complete waste if time.
eBay is a crapshoot when you list an auction. A pretty vanilla A4000 recently sold for about $480, which seems rather high.
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Because when a more or less working 2.5mb A1000 complete sells on ebay for £44 you have to wonder why.
I would expect a working A1000 motherboard alone to be worth this much but obviously it isn't or perhaps ebay is a complete waste if time.
Because loading both a KS and WB disk is a pain in the ass!
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A1000s aren't exactly rare, at least not in the US, they go for less than that regularly.
As more of a collector's item than anything else, unless it's boxed and mint it's not terribly interesting. There are easier to upgrade units around for something to "trick out."
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Because when a more or less working 2.5mb A1000 complete sells on ebay for £44 you have to wonder why.
I would expect a working A1000 motherboard alone to be worth this much but obviously it isn't or perhaps ebay is a complete waste if time.
"More or Less"....what are you on about. It is either working or not working.
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1000s seem pretty common in the US. Ebay is highly random though. Sometimes a plain 500 will go for over a hundred.
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1000s seem pretty common in the US. Ebay is highly random though. Sometimes a plain 500 will go for over a hundred.
I am bidding now on A500+ with 2MB chip RAM for a buck. Seems all the classic Amiga enthusiasts and collectors have moved on and there is not much interest anymore. This is very bad, because both MorphOS and AmigaOS 4 are aiming mostly at these users, since they are much more than all the other people using the so called NG Amiga platforms.
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I am bidding now on A500+ with 2MB chip RAM for a buck. Seems all the classic Amiga enthusiasts and collectors have moved on and there is not much interest anymore.
That is complete nonsense, unless it just happened in the last few weeks. (And most of the action in eBay auctions usually occurs in the last few minutes.)
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I am bidding now on A500+ with 2MB chip RAM for a buck. Seems all the classic Amiga enthusiasts and collectors have moved on and there is not much interest anymore. This is very bad, because both MorphOS and AmigaOS 4 are aiming mostly at these users, since they are much more than all the other people using the so called NG Amiga platforms.
There is Amiga Forever and AROS, in these horrid economic times, which you think the retro gamer is going to purchase?
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There is Amiga Forever and AROS, in these horrid economic times, which you think the retro gamer is going to purchase?
AROS is no good for retro gaming, Amiga Forever costs money.
So, WinUAE seems the best choise in these horrid economic times.
Wasn't there some work in AROS to reimplement the Amiga kickstart ROM in open sourced code?
Something like the Atari people did with EmuTOS, which runs some of the games in the Atari ST emulators.
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Last week, 10 bidders went after a not-fully-working A4000 .... $371.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-4000-/150454774588?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2307cdab3c
I bought a working one on eBay over a year ago for about $250.
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If it is local pick up only that can lower it's popularity. If you want serious money go to the extra effort of postage.
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Ive also seen a lot of people getting rid of systems purely because they need the money.
Its worth noting too that a lot of people have multiple systems, so selling off one doesn't mean they are getting out of the hobby altogether
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That is complete nonsense, unless it just happened in the last few weeks. (And most of the action in eBay auctions usually occurs in the last few minutes.)
About a week ago, A500+ Original packaging (opened sadly), plus quite a few games, 5 quid at car boot......Didn't want to carry it....so skipped.....Tandy TRS80 + 4 quid today and again...passed on the opportunity....C64 without PSU didnt even bother asking.
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Only a signature test.
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Last week, 10 bidders went after a not-fully-working A4000 .... $371.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-4000-/150454774588?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2307cdab3c
I bought a working one on eBay over a year ago for about $250.
I bought a fully reworked A4000D in mint condition for 300 euro's from Mad Cat.
This board was fully repaired with new caps and simm banks by Amiga-Digital.
Now that's quite a deal.
Amiga isn't a dying interest, but some people do ask insane prices.
So yeah, maybe I am a bit of cheapskate, but I'm not gonna pay anything more over 700 euro's for any hardware.
I do want a bit of secuity to see what I actually get for such amounts.
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Because when a more or less working 2.5mb A1000 complete sells on ebay for £44 you have to wonder why.
I would expect a working A1000 motherboard alone to be worth this much but obviously it isn't or perhaps ebay is a complete waste if time.
Here in the U.S. A1000 machines are plentiful, to say the least. I have a beautiful A1000 - almost no yellow (keyboard looks brand new!) - with a 1080 and Starboard 2. Because I don't have the computer box, I'll be lucky to get $50.00 for the computer. That's just what they are bringing.
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its funny, I only ever knew a single guy with an A1000 back in Denmark, but they seem to have been sold heavily in the states.
Finding 500+s and 600's on the other hand is tough going over here
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"More or Less"....what are you on about. It is either working or not working.
Ahhh it was an NTSC machine so you needed a 110/240v adaptor for the UK (or just swap the PSU inside). And a couple of the keys on the keyboard didn't seem to respond I think.
A500s I can understand going cheap, they are very prevailent on any day you search for them on ebay UK...but in the UK you'll see one A1000 every 6 months or so. More in Europe though true. It's not just the A1000 I saw an A3000 25mhz model go pretty cheap last month and all it needed was a keyboard.
Expansion wise the only difference is ECS Agnus and 2mb/1mb chip ram. Other than that they are identical pretty much.
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Its summer so activity is lower, at least here in the land of the wikings.
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Its summer so activity is lower, at least here in the land of the wikings.
What's a wiking?
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Both.
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What's a wiking?
An adwenturous willian from Norvay ;)
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Maybe it's limited to OCS machines going for not much money then, I wouldn't sell a 2mb expansion for an A1000 in the EU for less then a 3 figure sum myself though. If it doesn't sell it's not like it will corrode or rot in my dry storage area.
A4000 always seem to be a premium, funny thing is the HD floppy drive is rarely 'tested' on those auctions in the UK.
Oh well good time for me to start hunting for a dead A1000 or A1010 for a donor FD drive and I always fancied an A3000 anyway so..... :)
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What's a wiking?
Someone who can play a Wii really well and beat everybody else ?
The range on ePay is pretty extensive. One A4000 for $300 and another for $800. The same ratio seems to go for the other boxes as well. I've always used local pickup only as I know then you can get a pretty good deal.
Gertsy
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To be honest I wasn't expecting to get much more than £44.
a) It's an A1000 - they go cheap. They're rare-ish over here but are OCS and almost completely non-expandable.
b) It's NTSC so you need a step-down transformer.
c) It's not complete - I don't have a spare mouse
d) It's not fully working - although it's only the space bar that I couldn't get to work. I reckon it'll start working again if you take the keyboard apart and clean it properly.
The main reason for selling it was because I wanted to free up the space, not for the money. It only cost me £50 a few years back and that included a monitor, an A500 and an A500 HDD, so I'm not complaining.
Out of interest, it sold to Portugal in the end.
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An adwenturous willian from Norvay ;)
I'm wery certain ve don't hawe that here, or I vould hawe knovn about it.
But maybe in Sveden... :laughing:
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I'm wery certain ve don't hawe that here, or I vould hawe knovn about it.
But maybe in Sveden... :laughing:
this is what happens when you thin down your beer ;)
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I think it is a combination of factors.
Interesting that a supposed Amiga "enthusiast" couldn't be bothered carrying away a whole system for a pittance at the car boot sale.
So it would appear interest must be sorely lacking.
There can also be family pressures:I just got a lot of C= goodies (someone else beat me to the Amigas) of a fellow who was under wife's ORDERS to get rid of that old stuff-I want my room back!
I think those who want an Amiga HAVE an Amiga (or two,or fifteeen).!
The ham radio classic radios also seem to be much lowered prices,the collectors must now have theirs so the demand is falling.
The current economy causes many to hesitate spending on non-essentials ,especially if a spouse will want to know WHY and HOW MUCH?
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So it's good times for single rich bastards like myself... :)
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Interesting that a supposed Amiga "enthusiast" couldn't be bothered carrying away a whole system for a pittance at the car boot sale.
Passive aggressive slights are beneath you, sir.
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I think it is a combination of factors.
Interesting that a supposed Amiga "enthusiast" couldn't be bothered carrying away a whole system for a pittance at the car boot sale.
So it would appear interest must be sorely lacking.
There can also be family pressures:I just got a lot of C= goodies (someone else beat me to the Amigas) of a fellow who was under wife's ORDERS to get rid of that old stuff-I want my room back!
I think those who want an Amiga HAVE an Amiga (or two,or fifteeen).!
The ham radio classic radios also seem to be much lowered prices,the collectors must now have theirs so the demand is falling.
The current economy causes many to hesitate spending on non-essentials ,especially if a spouse will want to know WHY and HOW MUCH?
Well said :laughing:
I have a bunch of Amiga's now, where at the beginning of 2010 I had 2 A500's and a 1200.
Now I have 4 A500's, 4 1200's, 3 4000D's and 1 Micronik tower A4000CR.
And that's excluding Blizzards 1230 (2) + 1260, CF adapters, diskdrives, CF cards, kickstarts, power adapters, RAM/IDE cards and all other things I have bought.
So I think I have enough now, appart from the wish list, which has a Cyberstorm PPC on 1.
But I'm just going to wait until someone says, ok, I want hard cash and I match your offer.
If not, at the end of August it will then become a Radeon 5970 instead of Cyberstorm PPC.
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a fellow who was under wife's ORDERS to get rid of that old stuff
Ha ha ha :lol: If I was in a relationship and she would tell me to get rid of my Amiga, then I'd get rid of her :hammer:
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He did admit to not having used any of it for years.
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But sir, there was an AMIGA to be saved from the dustbin !
How could you ignore its plight ?
My experience is flea market sellers often toss unsold items upon leaving.
Have even seen disappointed sellers physically destroy unsold items so no one will benefit.
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Little from Column A, and a little from Column B.
We are in a recession afterall.
I think it's good anyway, prices are getting way to inflated for not_THAT_rare hardware recently.
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There can also be family pressures:I just got a lot of C= goodies (someone else beat me to the Amigas) of a fellow who was under wife's ORDERS to get rid of that old stuff-I want my room back!
Hmmm....did you by chance get all the Commodore stuff from a fellow named Brandon near Milford, OH?
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Yes.
Did you get the Amiga stuff?
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Yep.
He had a mountain of C64/C128 stuff, didn't he?
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If Amiga is dead, can you explain this auction????
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-500-Mouse-and-Power-Supply-/280523984223?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4150884d5f
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Because when a more or less working 2.5mb A1000 complete sells on ebay for £44 you have to wonder why.
I would expect a working A1000 motherboard alone to be worth this much but obviously it isn't or perhaps ebay is a complete waste if time.
You would need to give far more information about the auction. i.e condition of kit, reputation of seller, time of sale, etc etc. You simply can`t judge a whole interest on the basis of one auction. My last three Amiga 1000s didn`t cost me a penny as I was given them to preserve and look after. These days most of what I get comes free... Like my KIM that was donated. Serious collectors are not in it for the money and serious enthusiasts are really pleased if the kit goes for a very low price. The only folk worried about value are Ebayers.
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0410/car_0410_075.jpg
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz517.htm
PS: My collection is worth financially nothing to me. It will never be sold in my lifetime. However as a source of pleasure it is priceless and at least I get to die a happy man. Though poor.
scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
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If Amiga is dead, can you explain this auction????
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-500-Mouse-and-Power-Supply-/280523984223?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4150884d5f
f*ck me, Im in the wrong business, Import/Export !
That could be me at with 6,400% profit every day. Shed loads of 500's knocking about....sure we could fill a container with a 1000 quids worth, Quarter of a million profit easy and theres a woman trying to sell x86 motherboards from 1990's in a cardboard box for a £1 each and she appears to have not sold one in the last month, there they are every week same box same Mobos same "Not selling"....should I give here a tip. !
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its an Amiga 1000 I'm surprised it sold at all
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auction prices vary WILDLY,some buyers do not research but buy on impulse or get caught in auction fever.
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auction prices vary WILDLY,some buyers do not research but buy on impulse or get caught in auction fever.
Absolutely true. I sell on Ebay regularly and there's little rhyme or reason behind the end sales prices. I've sold valuable items at a horrible loss and sold other items for more than I would pay for them.
Like one other poster stated, its a crap shoot.
But I've got to admit the 2500 wouldn't be one to attract me (and I can't understand the interest in 500s). A good 1200 or 4000? I wouldn't mind buying right now.
Beyond emulators, you've also got to consider the effect of the Minimig or the soon to be released Natami (or the PPC alternatives). Wouldn't you rather have a new and maybe more feature filled computer?
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Because Amiga 1000s are not really sought after. I have seen an A4000 toaster system with just KB and Mouse and the basic software sell for $750. The average selling price of an Amiga 3000 is about $300+ dollars. Put on something thats a rare item and it will fetch a good price also.