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Title: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: jorkany on June 10, 2010, 06:09:09 PM
So how do you think the upcoming X1000 demo will go down? Board secured in a glass box running a demo-on-rails, or a more open hands-on demo where users can take it for a spin?
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: redrumloa on June 10, 2010, 06:25:50 PM
I remember OS4.0 being demoed at AmiWest 2003 by Ben Hermans. It was run on an Amiga 4000 with CyberstormPPC. He loaded it, opened and moved a few windows. That was the extent of the demo iirc.
 
I wouldn't even want to guess at this point.
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: joetee on June 10, 2010, 06:32:06 PM
I'd have several running demos non-stop "under glass", and have one (turned off) at the booth to pass around for hands on, and then the main one running to a projector with KiKi in the FG showing her mastery of how it works for the crowds.

Thats the way I'd roll...
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: Akiko on June 10, 2010, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: redrumloa;563916
I remember OS4.0 being demoed at AmiWest 2003 by Ben Hermans. It was run on an Amiga 4000 with CyberstormPPC. He loaded it, opened and moved a few windows. That was the extent of the demo iirc.
 
I wouldn't even want to guess at this point.



I wasn't aware that OS4.0 even ran on a CyberstormPPC in 2003!
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: redrumloa on June 10, 2010, 06:52:01 PM
Quote from: Akiko;563918
I wasn't aware that OS4.0 even ran on a CyberstormPPC in 2003!

Yes, it did though it was not released for CyberstormPPC for many years later. IIRC this demo caused a lot of flame wars between red & blue camps. The tightly controlled demo made many believe it was still mostly 68K code and buggy.
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: ssolie on June 10, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
You'll see AmigaOS running on the latest Amiga computer system. We'll all find out how interactive it is soon enough.

I wonder if the news will hit Slashdot. They seem eager to hear all about the latest AmigaOS systems after that Timberwolf news. Looks like many outsiders didn't even know AmigaOS was still going and running on PPC systems these days.

And don't forget to run Ranger on it and find out what CPU is in there... ;)
Title: Like me?
Post by: lsmart on June 10, 2010, 07:45:36 PM
Quote from: ssolie;563924
Looks like many outsiders didn't even know AmigaOS was still going and running on PPC systems these days.


In 2008 I was one of these outsiders. But if you have a passion for Amiga, any piece of news can ignite curiosity, make you dig deeper and ... well ... you´ll find amiga.org and maybe the amiga roundtable podcast. Next thing you know is you sell your MacBook and get a SAM :insane:

I`d love to play with an X1000, but I am not convinced to make a long travel to some convention just to see somebody running Workbench and MPlayer.
Title: Re: Like me?
Post by: persia on June 10, 2010, 10:59:52 PM
MacBook and Sam are to different purposes.  Buying a SAm is good, but don't think you're going to replace your MacBook with it...
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: dammy on June 10, 2010, 11:07:59 PM
Quote from: ssolie;563924
You'll see AmigaOS running on the latest Amiga computer system.


You mean, of course, AmigaOne computer system.
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: itix on June 10, 2010, 11:20:45 PM
Quote from: ssolie;563924
We'll all find out how interactive it is soon enough.


So, to put it short, you dont know. Thank you for your co-operation, sir.
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: Crumb on June 11, 2010, 12:55:05 AM
@ssolie

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Looks like many outsiders didn't even know AmigaOS was still going and running on PPC systems these days.

They probably didn't expect to find in 2010 anybody that thinks PPC has any future for desktop either. Wait to see their happy faces when they discover that x1000 will cost nearly 1800Euros including VAT. And when they discover that the hardware is slower than Apple hardware released 5 years ago? their comments will be priceless.
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: haywirepc on June 11, 2010, 04:30:21 AM
I hope for the best, but I just think its crazy expensive. For that kind of coin it should do something other computer's can't.
 
I'm not the least bit excited about a computer thats so slow with only one processor core even able to be used.
 
Morph and Aros much better options in my view, but I still hope that somehow hyperion wises up and gives users better options.
 
Steven
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on June 11, 2010, 04:50:38 AM
Quote from: Crumb;563982
@ssolie
They probably didn't expect to find in 2010 anybody that thinks PPC has any future for desktop either. Wait to see their happy faces when they discover that x1000 will cost nearly 1800Euros including VAT. And when they discover that the hardware is slower than Apple hardware released 5 years ago? their comments will be priceless.


They won't complain because it is blaspheming the holy church of Amiga.
OTOH my brother just spent $1400 on a Sony Atom powered netbook. The lesson is... If you don't have the money to spend on an X1000 don't. You can easily get an Amiga experience out of an upgraded 1200 or just an emulator.
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: coldfish on June 11, 2010, 03:24:42 PM
To its credit it can do something cheaper and more powerful machines cant.  Question is, is it worth the entry fee just to run OS4?
Title: Re: X1000 upcoming demo: glassbox or hands on?
Post by: Jose on June 11, 2010, 04:14:41 PM
But the CPU is know even known yet, how can you know it's slower ?
Title: Re: Like me?
Post by: lsmart on June 12, 2010, 07:52:00 AM
Quote from: persia;563966
MacBook and Sam are to different purposes.  Buying a SAm is good, but don't think you're going to replace your MacBook with it...


I didn´t mean to say that. I sold my MacBook Air (a somewhat useless device by itself). The replacement was not SAM, but something that has better UAE performance than the MBA (a Sony Vaio).

But the reason I wanted better UAE performance was: at home I was doing more stuff on SAM and wanted to have some of it on the road with me.:)

I am super excited about the X1000, but also a bit sceptical. I definitely won´t swap my ubercool UNICOMP keyboard for the AmigaOne model. Even if I am probably stuck with those ugly windows keys. :(
Title: Re: Like me?
Post by: lsmart on June 12, 2010, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: persia;563966
MacBook and Sam are to different purposes.  Buying a SAm is good, but don't think you're going to replace your MacBook with it...


That is of course correct. I didn´t mean to say that SAM replaced my MacBook (MacBook Air to be precise). But after I had the SAM for some time I sold the Air and got a PC laptop, which is performing better when running UAE.