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Title: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: giZmo350 on May 24, 2010, 04:08:59 PM
I unboxed, revelled in that new Amiga smell, connected my 15KHz monitor, popped in the OS3.1, connected my A500 60W Power Supply and the only thing that happens is the A1200 power light comes on and you can hear the FDD unit pull the floppy cover back. I also just get a gray screen on the monitor. I'm really bummed out. I don't want to have to send this all the way back to AmigaKit costing more expense and time. I know the A500 PSU works perfect 'cause I was just using it on the A500. There's an AmigaKit sticker on the back that states warranty is void if removed. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: alexh on May 24, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Call them.
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: ddniUK on May 24, 2010, 04:13:39 PM
if you have nothing connected to the internal IDE...
Kick 3.1 needs at least 30secs before anything happens
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - NOW OK! Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: giZmo350 on May 24, 2010, 04:28:32 PM
WHEW! The 'ole "wait 30 seconds trick"!!! Didn't know that! Boots right up!
Thanks a million! I was scared to leave it on longer than about 5-10 seconds!

Another couple of questions plz....   I just bought an Apollo 40MHz accelerator directly from GVP. Can I just plug it in? The accelrator didn't come with any software.

Also, can I now just pop in a HDD, say an 80 Gig, and install OS3.1?

Thanks ddniUK!!!
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - NOW OK! Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: jj on May 24, 2010, 04:32:58 PM
Not 80 gig.  Os 3.1 does not support drives this big without patches.   I believe you are ok if you dont use more than 4gb partition.
 
So to start just create 1 4 gig partion for amiga os 3.1 until you can get patches installed.
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - NOW OK! Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: ddniUK on May 24, 2010, 05:56:29 PM
if it is an 030 ased card, yes it is plug and go. if it is an 040 card then you will need 68040.library for you card.
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - NOW OK! Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: AndyFC on May 24, 2010, 06:17:53 PM
Just a general comment about buying and returning items which are faulty in the warranty period (from anywhere covered by UK laws), you shouldn't have to pay for the shipping costs for returning them:
Distance Selling regs, A Guide for Businesses on Distance selling:
"If the goods are faulty or do not comply with the contract, you (ie the business) will
have to pay for their return whatever the circumstances."
http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - NOW OK! Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: save2600 on May 24, 2010, 06:19:36 PM
Well, at least in this case - was just operator error. If he had called or wrote Amigakit, I'm sure they would have gotten to the bottom of it right away.

I think many of us write to a forum first though because we expect/assume a quicker response than we'd get from a dealer. Funny how that works and when you think about it, many dealers reputations precede them. Not simply talking about computer vendors or AmigaKit at all - but just about *ANY* industry lately. It's not uncommon that users have more experience with products than often times the folks that work for a dealer or manufacturer even has. Strange but true.
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: Tension on May 24, 2010, 06:23:42 PM
You will need to have the 68040.library in your LIBS: directory for the 68040.  Which version seems to depend on what accelerator you have, seems to be a bit of a black art to get the perfect match.  Also, you will need RAM for the accelerator or else you wont notice any great speed increase.

I recommend starting off with a clean OS3.9 installation.

I have a few old SIMMs you could have for free if you need one.
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: giZmo350 on May 24, 2010, 06:41:13 PM
OK, this is the board I purchased.....

APOLLO 1230-40 , 68030 Accelerator board for AMIGA 1200
One more barely used ( Test purposes only ) AMIGA 1200 Accelerator board. 01012
Includes the Math CoProcessor, Real Time Clock and Battery, and 32 MB of EDO Memory SIMM. Accelerator us clocked at 40 MHz. (text taken from auction)

Right now with the machine booted up, the memory reports:
1,812,808 graphics mem (I assume 2MB chip ram)
0 other mem (should I be seeing 32MB ram reported here?)

The only reason I asked here first, rather than calling AmigaKit, is that I figured that I was probably doing something wrong. Rarely does new hardware come DOA. Plus, isn't that what forums are for - to get a quick expert opinion/solution? I love forums! However, I always try to figure out the problem myself first before simply blasting something on a forum. I do alot of reading about Amiga but sometimes these machines confound me.

Rog........
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today - Kind of DOA :-(
Post by: amigakit on May 24, 2010, 06:41:19 PM
We ship all Amiga 1200s with a document we have written: Getting Started with your new A1200

In this document it states that A1200 startup takes 39 seconds with 3.1 ROMs.

We test all Systems comprehensively and thoroughly before shipping: can you change the forum title to reflect that the item is not DOA.  The title of this thread suggests that we ship faulty goods..

It is best to raise a Support Ticket at our Support site if you have a need for customer service:  http://www.amigakit.com/support
Title: Moderator notice
Post by: Karlos on May 24, 2010, 06:45:06 PM
@amigakit

Point noted. Thread title changed.
Title: Re: Moderator notice
Post by: amigakit on May 24, 2010, 06:46:02 PM
Thank you Karlos.
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: ferrellsl on May 24, 2010, 06:46:40 PM
@ gizmo350

RTFM!  LOL
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: Karlos on May 24, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: ferrellsl;560661
@ gizmo350

RTFM!  LOL


Come on man, do you read every single hardware manual you get? Factor a bit of excitement into the equation, at least :)
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: amigakit on May 24, 2010, 06:49:53 PM
Thats why we include in the box a quick guide to the A1200 called Getting Started with your new A1200

It contains the commonly asked questions when for new A1200 customers..
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: ferrellsl on May 24, 2010, 06:52:45 PM
@ Karlos

No, but it's always funnier when something like this happens to somebody else!
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: giZmo350 on May 24, 2010, 07:05:12 PM
Thanks for changing title... (thought I did that first thing)
My bad! - should have looked thru the documentation first!
I was in no way trying to imply that AmigaKit was selling faulty equipment.
I am very happy with my purchases... as a matter of fact I placed two seperate orders 1 or 2 days apart yet AmigaKit noticed and shipped all together! That was awesome!

Yes, there was definetly the "NEW AMIGA EXCITEMENT" factor going there!
Plus, I didn't want to call AmigaKit and seem like a dumba$$!
Besides, what time is in England right now? I was thniking that they were closed....
I own a computer sales and service store! And I'm the only employee!
You can imagine the calls and questions I get!
I really hate it when people think I'm Microsoft support and their new best friend!!!   ;-)
So, a typical Monday, I'm getting goofy calls every 20 minutes and I'm trying to dink around with my new Amiga!
I'm thinking...  "Hey! Ask the experts on A.org!"
And now I can't dig up a 2.5" IDE HDD cable anywhere! DOH!

BTW, I'm a MS expert... not MAC (own 3 PPC MM's), not Amiga (own A500, A2000 & now A1200), not Linyx.... (Blah!)

Here's my website for those who are curious
http://www.prolaptopshop.com

Rog......
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: bbond007 on May 24, 2010, 07:39:47 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;560619
I unboxed, revelled in that new Amiga smell, connected my 15KHz monitor, popped in the OS3.1, connected my A500 60W Power Supply and the only thing that happens is the A1200 power light comes on and you can hear the FDD unit pull the floppy cover back. I also just get a gray screen on the monitor. I'm really bummed out. I don't want to have to send this all the way back to AmigaKit costing more expense and time. I know the A500 PSU works perfect 'cause I was just using it on the A500. There's an AmigaKit sticker on the back that states warranty is void if removed. Any suggestions?


Let me guess, you had been wanting to order a NOS a1200 for a while, you saw that NOS A1200s from Amigakit dried up for a bit which caused you to panic and when you saw that they were available again, you finally decided to get one?

I'm still waiting for mine :) it is "Awaiting Despatch" as of last update. I’m hoping that is something like Dispatch.

My last and only A1200 I bought off comp.sys.amiga.marketplace and it smelled like cat and was infested with small tick-like spiders and had cigarette burns. Hopefully this NOS is better...

Anyway, I'm glad I read this thread. There is a lot I forgot about the A1200.

Also, don't forget about setting MaxTransfer(HDtoolBox) to 0x1FE00 for Compact Flash if you are going that route...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52828&highlight=matrix+whdload&page=2

I ordered  a Subway adapter with mine and a GVP Typhoon 030/40 with 32mb RAM + SCSI from Softhut…

Planning any expansions?
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: giZmo350 on May 24, 2010, 08:16:11 PM
Quote from: bbond007;560683
Let me guess, you had been wanting to order a NOS a1200 for a while, you saw that NOS A1200s from Amigakit dried up for a bit which caused you to panic and when you saw that they were available again, you finally decided to get one?

I'm still waiting for mine :) it is "Awaiting Despatch" as of last update. I’m hoping that is something like Dispatch.

My last and only A1200 I bought off comp.sys.amiga.marketplace and it smelled like cat and was infested with small tick-like spiders and had cigarette burns. Hopefully this NOS is better...

Anyway, I'm glad I read this thread. There is a lot I forgot about the A1200.

Also, don't forget about setting MaxTransfer(HDtoolBox) to 0x1FE00 for Compact Flash if you are going that route...

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52828&highlight=matrix+whdload&page=2

I ordered  a Subway adapter with mine and a GVP Typhoon 030/40 with 32mb RAM + SCSI from Softhut…

Planning any expansions?


Yes, that's exactly right - I figured I better snag one while they were still available!! Was very excited to a NOS unit! BTW, it's beautiful!!! Comes with lots of software too!

Expansions? Yes! I also ordered the Subway USB adapter kit. And I also recently purchased an Apollo 40MHz accelerator card. Plus, I have an HDD for it and I want to connect to my network. Plus, get a scan doubler! I wish those were available right now but AmiKit notified me that they won't have them till this fall.

You will LOVE your new A1200 from AmigaKit!
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: amigakit on May 24, 2010, 08:21:34 PM
Thanks for your orders.

Be careful with installation of the Subway USB- read the manual throughly.  

It is best to double check every connection before applying the power.

If it is installed the wrong way, you will burn the Subway and possibly the Amiga.
Title: Re: Got my NEW A1200 from AmigaKit today
Post by: giZmo350 on May 24, 2010, 09:36:19 PM
Thanks much for the advice AmigaKit!

Rog.....