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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: mbrantley on May 14, 2010, 07:14:01 PM
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...with 1GB of memory from AmigaKit. Planning to run Blender on it, among other things. That's even though I have a half-dozen other computers with other operating systems that will all run Blender just fine and no doubt faster. :-)
Got excited about the X1000 until I saw the price. Not gonna be able to do that, sorry to say.
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I didn't know the price for the X1000 had been announced. What is the price?
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Unfortunately the X1000 will cost over 1700 euro. At this point I am waiting for Sam460!
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$2k+ for a hobby computer. No thanks. What are these people smoking? Who pays that much today for a fully loaded computer with a relevant OS even? Guess I'll just move ahead with my plans to get a 27" Intel based iMac for that kind of money.
We should have known better. Remember the announcement that purported that the X1000 was going to cost less than the original Amiga 1000 when it first rolled out? Someone conjectured that there was going to be a translation to modern currency with inflation figured in. Looks like they were right ;)
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That price is just nuts. Like 2600 said, how many people actually spend that sort of money on a machine these days? Even the high end machines from Apple will only account for a tiny percentage of computer sales and they are an established company. Looks like this will just push OS4.1 customers Acube's way.
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huh ?? 1700 euro ?? eeeep... are they bleeping mad ? I'ld much rather get a MacPro for that kind of money if I had it
Tom UK
PS: reminder to self: stop rolling on the floor laughing/crying
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@save2600
Probably smoking the same cigarettes as you. ;-)
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@mbrantley
welcome to the club:) I'm sure you'll be surprised how snappy Blender runs on the Samflex but of course you'll have to go get a coffee during very large rendering..which always reminds me of waiting forever to render with my 1200 and Lightwave back in the day but I never cared because it's the responsiveness of the program while working that matters to me;)
Don't forget to check out glUAE to run your old apps and especially to play ECS/OCS and most AGA games! RunInUAE is also a good program for 68k stuff but it's not that good for AGA stuff..then of course there are hundreds of goodies at os4depot to keep you smiling...enjoy!
btw, I would stick to update 1 for now because some people (me included) are experiencing some USB flaws under Update 2
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@save2600
Probably smoking the same cigarettes as you. ;-)
No fags here! Hmm... not into crack cocaine either - which is more like what I was thinking :lol:
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No fags here! Hmm... not into crack cocaine either :lol:
I always thought "fags" had a quite different meaning in the US?
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I always thought "fags" had a quite different meaning in the US?
It does and can, but a lot of people still know what it means here when you use it contextually.
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@mbrantley
welcome to the club:) I'm sure you'll be surprised how snappy Blender runs on the Samflex but of course you'll have to go get a coffee during very large rendering..which always reminds me of waiting forever to render with my 1200 and Lightwave back in the day but I never cared because it's the responsiveness of the program while working that matters to me;)
Don't forget to check out glUAE to run your old apps and especially to play ECS/OCS and most AGA games! RunInUAE is also a good program for 68k stuff but it's not that good for AGA stuff..then of course there are hundreds of goodies at os4depot to keep you smiling...enjoy!
btw, I would stick to update 1 for now because some people (me included) are experiencing some USB flaws under Update 2
Thanks for this -- good info here. I've ordered the complete kit with Update 2 preinstalled, so I may have to experience any USB flaws firsthand.
While I wait for my new computer, I'm deciding which monitor to use with it. I have a couple of candidates in the house, but the best I can shake loose from other duties is a Samsung B2330. Native resolution is is 1920 x 1080, I think. Will the included Radeon 9250 graphics card with 128MB produce that OK? Nothing I hate worse than using a non-native resolution on a LCD monitor.
I didn't mean to imply that a specific X1000 price has been announced, but the Trevor Dickinson interview posted under the news section seems to indicate it will be more than I can pay. Not saying anything about whether it's worth it, only that I can't pay it.
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Unfortunately the X1000 will cost over 1700 euro. At this point I am waiting for Sam460!
A bargin at only $2100.88 USD!
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A bargin at only $2100.88 USD!
Wow! What a machine I could build with a $2100 shopping spree on Newegg.com! LOL!
You could build an 8 core (dual 4core procs) ,16GB RAM, etc monster that could run Windoze, Linux, Hackintosh, and about any other app you could think of!
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I always thought "fags" had a quite different meaning in the US?
Yes, appearantly it means annoying Harley Davidson bikers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adWXGtLuQYQ) now :laughing:
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Hopefully they'll have a killer app ready for demonstration. I intend to go to that demo in June in the UK to find out.
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My new computer is still "being picked" at AmigaKit, so I'm just going to have to be patient. :) But as I wait, I just started reading the wikibooks manual on Blender called "Noob to Pro," and imagine my happy surprise when I see Amiga mentioned so early at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro/Blender_Windowing_System where readers are told to use LAmiga+M or the front/back gadget to switch screens. Feels almost like we're back in the mainstream. ;)
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@ mbrantley (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=4447)
ya it's cool eh:)...don't forget we also have Alladian 4d v6 for Amiga OS4.1 coming out this fall too..it's not as powerful as Blender but it's also a very capable Amiga 3D app
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huh ?? 1700 euro ?? eeeep... are they bleeping mad ? I'ld much rather get a MacPro for that kind of money if I had it
Tom UK
PS: reminder to self: stop rolling on the floor laughing/crying
funny how PPC cards on Ebay are selling for crazy prices constantly and people are complaining about the X1000:confused:
as for Mac comparison well let's just say many people would laugh at paying alot extra coin for a Mac (or any other Apple product)...too much smoke and mirrors for a shiny white case and itune bs:roflmao:
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Wow! What a machine I could build with a $2100 shopping spree on Newegg.com! LOL!
You could build an 8 core (dual 4core procs) ,16GB RAM, etc monster that could run Windoze, Linux, Hackintosh, and about any other app you could think of!
Actually you can go to IBUYpower.com and make an intel i7 6 core (12 total threads) for about that much with a nice case.
use a gigabyte MOBO with the efix bios adapter, intall win7, MacOS snow leopard, and unbutu each on separate drives (500 gig hd's are $50 usd)
Get the new Amiga forever and a 6pack of coronas and enjoy a sunday afternoon. or rainy day...
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Actually you can go to IBUYpower.com and make an intel i7 6 core (12 total threads) for about that much with a nice case. Use a gigabyte MOBO with the efix bios adapter, install win7, MacOS snow leopard, and unbutu each on separate drives (500 gig hd's are $50 usd). Get the new Amiga forever and a 6pack of coronas and enjoy a sunday afternoon or rainy day...
Giggity ;) :drink:
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funny how PPC cards on Ebay are selling for crazy prices constantly and people are complaining about the X1000:confused:
as for Mac comparison well let's just say many people would laugh at paying alot extra coin for a Mac (or any other Apple product)...too much smoke and mirrors for a shiny white case and itune bs:roflmao:
People also complain about accelerator price
The amigoid system with best performance/price right now is a G4 Mac Mini running MorphOS. You can get Mac Minis quite cheap on eBay
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Please forgive if I interrupt every once in a while to talk about my new computer, but I'm excited. :) I almost said new Amiga, but I didn't want to get into that argument. Still it will be my first new, not preowned computer purpose-built for running Amiga OS (I don't like AmigaOS) since February 1993.
Anyway, the update from AmigaKit has the new Ami... er, computer all packed up and "awaiting dispatch." I'll post pictures when it gets here and my review later on. I really hope the aforementioned Samsung 1920 x 1080 monitor will work out OK.
OK... back to the other topics...
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@mbrantley
Congrats on your new purchase.
:)
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I remember buying a new Amiga 3000 back in 1992 for 1700 Euro. That is alot more than 1700 Euro today.
1700 Euro for a computer is not much for those who want a computer like that. People buy iMacs for the same amount just to surf the web. To pay the same amount for a hobby is alot better in my eyes :D
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I remember buying a new Amiga 3000 back in 1992 for 1700 Euro. That is alot more than 1700 Euro today.
1700 Euro for a computer is not much for those who want a computer like that. People buy iMacs for the same amount just to surf the web. To pay the same amount for a hobby is alot better in my eyes :D
The thing is that back in '92, the Amiga was still very much commercially supported and in its prime. It was not a hobby computer.
Back to the present. I cannot accept paying such HUGE amounts of money for what is essentially a very much outdated motherboard in the case of the SAM, and even more for a computer which has almost ZERO commercial support in both the case of the X1000 and the SAM.
The iMac is very much a supported computer, ok not as much as a Wintel PC but still it is very supported.
Maybe its just me, but i think its mad buying these new computers / motherboards, paying so much just for the "privelage" of being able to run OS4.1 .
Then again having said that, i must have been pretty mad spending loads of money buying my A4000T and PicassoIV, so i can understand that there is a market for madness :P
Congrats on your purchase :D
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$2k+ for a hobby computer. No thanks. What are these people smoking? Who pays that much today for a fully loaded computer with a relevant OS even?
The same you smoked when you ordered your Deneb. Remind us, again, how much you paid only to have access in usb?
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Face it, we're all mad here to varying degrees. AmigaKit reports my 'puter has shipped, so I just celebrated by buying Hollywood, Hollywood Designer and Malibu.
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I remember buying a new Amiga 3000 back in 1992 for 1700 Euro. That is alot more than 1700 Euro today.
1700 Euro for a computer is not much for those who want a computer like that. People buy iMacs for the same amount just to surf the web. To pay the same amount for a hobby is alot better in my eyes :D
Well 1700 ain't gonna cut it for what I have paid for my Core I7 975, the system complete with all I have in it and attached to it, is just over 3000 and then excluding monitor, printer and steering wheel.
My case was already 285 euro's.
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Things are worth what they are worth to the buyer.
I just bought a 1200 for about 170 bucks including shipping from the UK.
Is a 20 year old computer worth 170 dollars to your average citizen? Propably not.
Is it worth it to me ? Every penny.
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My case was already 285 euro's.
Wow! Exactly what does a 285 Euro case DO that a case half that price won't?
I think I'd take the 1700, buy a six core AMD processor (only slightly less performance at a fraction of the price). Complete the system with fairly good mid-range components and still have enough money to buy a 1.5 Ghz G4 Mac Mini and a copy of MorphOS.
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Wow! Exactly what does a 285 Euro case DO that a case half that price won't?
Budget case:
(http://www.funnypostcard.com/images/computer-case.jpg)
Upgreyedd'ed Computer case :):
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss55/cliche_city1/HAL9000.jpg)
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AmigaKit tracking seems to indicate this computer is crossing the Atlantic on a rocketship or something, because it's going to be here Tuesday. Woo hoo! Only bad thing is it looks like they sent it to my billing address (maybe my bad during the ording, don't know), which means I'm gonna need to intercept that package before I have some explaining to do. (What, that computer, honey? Nah, that couldn't have cost very much -- it's all outdated technology. :) )
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Oops.... read the tracking date wrong. The computer will be here tomorrow, not Tuesday. Yea! Today, the rocketship from the UK landed in at the FedEx hub in Memphis, Tenn., so there's a new "Amiga" in Dixie.
Now I'm downloading stuff I want to use from OS4Dept, clearing off a desk surface and anything else I can think of to get ready for the arrival. Unboxing pictures to come, you can bet.
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Do keep us updated on how it comes along :)
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did you type "unboxing video"? lol
Oops.... read the tracking date wrong. The computer will be here tomorrow, not Tuesday. Yea! Today, the rocketship from the UK landed in at the FedEx hub in Memphis, Tenn., so there's a new "Amiga" in Dixie.
Now I'm downloading stuff I want to use from OS4Dept, clearing off a desk surface and anything else I can think of to get ready for the arrival. Unboxing pictures to come, you can bet.
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Wow! Exactly what does a 285 Euro case DO that a case half that price won't?
I think I'd take the 1700, buy a six core AMD processor (only slightly less performance at a fraction of the price). Complete the system with fairly good mid-range components and still have enough money to buy a 1.5 Ghz G4 Mac Mini and a copy of MorphOS.
Space (incl. support for long graphics cards), cooling and best of all removable motherboard tray and cable management.
It's a Lian Li PC80 Armorsuit servercase tower, also looks good :)
(http://lian-li.com/v2/tw/product/upload/image/P80/0P80u002s.jpg)
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Here's the teaser. :)
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Where did you get that info that the AmigaOne x1000 will cost 1700 euros?
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Unfortunately the X1000 will cost over 1700 euro. At this point I am waiting for Sam460!
Where was this price announced? I thought we were still waiting? Source?
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Where did you get that info that the AmigaOne x1000 will cost 1700 euros?
£ not €
And it's unclear if this is before taxes.
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Where was this price announced? I thought we were still waiting? Source?
Trevor Dick made some exclusive interviews with a printed form Amiga magazine named "Amiga Future". Unless you actually purchased the physical media you wouldn't have seen it firsthand, although I believe someone was kind enough to repeat this price point on another web forum.
Could be just a rumour though. Summer is less than a month away, all should be revealed before then.
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Sorry, ended up stuck at a doctor's appointment all afternoon. But I did get the computer set up before going. The keyboard and mouse are throwaway items but the little tower case is nice. AmigaKit overall did a good job of putting this system together, with what looks like hot glue used in strategic places to keep things from coming apart during shipping. There were two hard drive mount screws loose in the case, but no harm, no foul. Looks like I didn't have to suffer through the no-backplane era of the Sam boards! :)
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First shot shows the insides (note missing drive mount screws). This machine boots faster than any Amiga I've ever owned. The first photo of the monitor shows the Workbench screen before I set the proper resolution for the display. The last is the test screen at 1920 x 1080.
Had lots of blanking problems at this resolution that I couldn't solve using a DVI connection. So I ended up using a VGA cable and all is well. The monitor does double duty with another computer, so I'll use the DVI for that machine.
So far I'm a happy, happy camper -- a screen-dragging, multitasking, multimedia fool. :)
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Congratulations, have fun! :)
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that is sexy!
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Well do you think it was worth the money and the investment?
Steven
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Looks good but Dang no PCI-E slot?? thats weak!
Rich
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Sorry, ended up stuck at a doctor's appointment all afternoon. But I did get the computer set up before going. The keyboard and mouse are throwaway items but the little tower case is nice. AmigaKit overall did a good job of putting this system together, with what looks like hot glue used in strategic places to keep things from coming apart during shipping. There were two hard drive mount screws loose in the case, but no harm, no foul. Looks like I didn't have to suffer through the no-backplane era of the Sam boards! :)
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No regrets. Yeah, it's expensive, but I doubt anybody is getting very rich off this stuff. It's the reality of a platform being the smallest of niches. I've spent as much or more on expanding and upgrading classic machines that don't give me this level of performance, and they lack the reliability. My 4000 has been in pieces for months now because of problems.
Gonna get a better keyboard and a nicer mouse, though. These are cheap, cheap, cheap and take away too much pleasure from using the 'putter. I think ordering the kit without them would have save me $6, so I know these aren't high-ticket items.
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What have you done with it so far?
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What have you done with it so far?
I've had so little time with the machine since yesterday that I haven't actually done anything but install stuff. And figure out that I can't run this resolution using a DVI cable without getting screen blanking issues. Old analog VGA cable to the rescue there.
Today I bought a Logitech LX8 cordless mouse at Best Buy and ordered a Das Professional S Keyboard from Das. My input devices just have to be top-quality. Even got the nice lady at Das aggree to send me a couple of blank keycaps for the Windows (Amiga) keys.
Got Blender and ImageFX installed and working. Next I'm going to try to get TVPaint going and then Hollywood (which I just purchased but have never used).
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I'd be currious to know what you think of the machine for web browsing and open source games like quake, duke nukem etc
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Unfortunately the X1000 will cost over 1700 euro. At this point I am waiting for Sam460!
Where exactly did you get that figure from? Afaik they have not announced a price other than saying that it will most likely cost around the same as a1000 did on launch date, which was less than 1700 euros for sure. They also stated that they hope it will be a little bit cheaper as well. I agree though that it is very expensive and myself cannot afford or justify that price.
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People also complain about accelerator price
The amigoid system with best performance/price right now is a G4 Mac Mini running MorphOS. You can get Mac Minis quite cheap on eBay
Unless you live in Norway like me. Seems near impossible to find these machines on norwegian auction sites and importing it would cost me shipping, customs handling and taxes. Add these together and it would not be that cheap anymore..
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How appropriate, having the A1000 next to your newest gen Amiga.