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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: MaDDuck on November 23, 2003, 04:55:46 AM
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Does anybody out there actually HAVE the A2024 monitor?
I farted around with one in an Amiga shop eowns ago, nice (4 col.) pic
And, just like EVERYBODY else (c'mon admit it!!) I choose the A2024 monitor in prefs/screenmodes, just to see! Took a while to get the mouse on the right plane to get out!!
Just curious!! :-?
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Yeah, I tried screenmodes my old PAL monitor couldnt cope with for a a laugh too.
I found simply giving it the 3 finger salute was easier than trying to work out which of the array of mouse pointers I could see was the actual one :-D
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WHAT!?
Sounds like you cheated and hit USE instead of the braver SAVE button on the SCREENMODE window!!!
Cheater.............
Good thing I tried it on a mil-spec industrial Amiga Professional computer!!!
A lesser machine, like an A500, probibly couldn't handle it!!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Oh no, not more mil spec shennanigans! :lol:
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I was really just looking for memories/reflections, etc. of the A2024 monitor! It had (if I remember correctly) 800X600 resolution and a rock solid picture.
anyone have one and still use it?
for sale or trade?
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Hmm. 800x600. That for OCS? Under ECS it could do up to 1024x1024 (in 4 shades) I think.
I have seen one running way back when. Haven't seen another since.
As it goes the picture wasn't bad but the refresh rate was still low. It worked by having a high persistance phosphor so you couldn't tell.
However that had the drawbacks of leaving a slight trail when anything moved (like old LCD screens but not anywhere near as bad).
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really??
I know about the slow phospher screen. If memory serves correct, it could only refresh at 10-15Khz!
It was also notorously slow while dragging screens down, playing CDXL or any other processor intensive tasks!
It does have advantages though- I have my CD32 hooked up to a PSONE monitor and it has no flicker whatsoever!
Weird, but I have an older A2000 (Mil-spec no less!) with an '040 in it that would probibly scream on that monitor. All I use it for is Lightrave (and Lightwave 3D), word processing, and my tax info.
It wouldn't push it to bad.
They were good, weird BIG monitors!!!
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MaDDuck wrote:
They were good, weird BIG monitors!!!
No kidding :-) For OCS I think the A2024 modes use much of the available chip ram bandwidth which is what causes the slow down. Similar to using the DBLPAL/DBLNTSC modes in 256 colour on the AGA chipset.
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I have 4 new 2024 monitors here, why, you looking to buy one? :-D
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MaDDuck wrote:
WHAT!?
Sounds like you cheated and hit USE instead of the braver SAVE button on the SCREENMODE window!!!
Cheater.............
Good thing I tried it on a mil-spec industrial Amiga Professional computer!!!
A lesser machine, like an A500, probibly couldn't handle it!!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Well even if you did select save, you'd just reboot with no startup and go to the env-archive and delete screenmode.prefs.. :-)
Nearly always there's an easy way with AmigaOS ;-)
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@Karlos
You didn't read that Atari-thread did you ? ;-)
The A2024 will do 1024x1008@50Hz on PAL-Amigas and 1024x800@60Hz
on NTSC-Amigas. A bug in the driver reduced that to 1008x .... (not sure
wether that was fixed sometimes), and in theory it would run on any
Amiga with 1Mb and atleast Kick1.3 (needed a special Jumpstart_1.4 WB
for that). Now actually useing it with less than 3Mb wasn't a really smart
idea, but it worked. It did not use the SuperHighRes-based resolution
of the ECS-Denise, but some mega-interlaced HighRes.
(the 2024 also worked as a FF for normal interlaced modes).
@MaDDuck
Offcourse it were 4 greyscales,not colors, atleast until you did that Aminet-hack
that connected the A2024's logic-board to a normal VGA-monitor (57kHz oe more).
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@Karlos
No, the Amiga just gave a normal 640x200(256) signal in 2 bit, the plane-pointers
were switched on every pic, resulting in every frame taking up to 0.1 secs to
be build. Chipmem use was also high, but not the bandwidth used.
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Jagabot wrote:
I have 4 new 2024 monitors here, why, you looking to buy one? :-D
WOW!!!
How much do they weigh?
How much to ship from from British Saskatchalbertatoba to the U.S (77083 to be exact)?
Thanks dude!!
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Kronos wrote:
@Karlos
You didn't read that Atari-thread did you ? ;-)
Which Atari thread might that be?
Is there a thread out here about Atari's big-ass monochrome monitor? I can't remember the model number.....
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BTW.....
Here's the ONLY photo I could find of one:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/a2024.html
It also explaines quite a bit about the monitor.
Yeah- I want one! :-)
;-)
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@MaDDuck
Nice pic, wrong info :-o
The 2024 didn't use long-shinning phosphor but an advaced
flickerfixer to get a stable pic.
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@Kronos
Interesting way of doing it, I didnt know that :-)
I didn't get the info from the atati thread, athough I can sure imagine it came up there!
I pulled the resolution info from an old WB2.0 manual I had here (came with my A600).
Given the total size/refresh rate of the screen (say 1024x1008 or whatever) and the limitations of the chipset, the idea that it strangled the bandwidth was purely my own conclusion...
You live and learn, eh?
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I'm in Canada, smartypants. "British" ownership of Canada ended recently in the 1800's... ;-)
They aren't "cheap" to ship, but not crazy expensive.
They weigh 12.5Kg or 27lbs (thereabouts).
To 77083 (Texas right?) here are some approximate shipping rates.
(In US dollars)
By Expedited (11 day surface): $34.00
By XpressPost (5-7 business days) : $68.00
By UPS Regular (up to 10 days): $39.00
UPS Requires a bunch of BS forms to be filled out (I'm pretty good at them now though) for "exporting or importing" monitors to the US even though these are from Westchester PA (Commodore USA).
Expedited is the easiest method, it's CanadaPost to USPS.
Maybe I'll put one on eBay just to see if they sell for more than $5. I have NO CLUE what these are worth. I do know that they have an absoloutely excellent display if you'e using them for desktop publishing or music editing. And they work on the rgb port with no extra hardware.
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Sounds fair!!
you didn't catch the British Saskatchalbertatoba joke???
goto www.deadtrolls.com
It's a Three Dead Trolls in a Baggy song about 4 provinces seceding (sic!) from Canada and formaing a NEW country called "British Saskatchalbertatoba"
I've learned SO much about Canada from them, believe it or not...
VERY funny!
I'll keep my good eye out on e-bay looking for the monitor!
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OPPS!
I blew it, no pun intended-
the URL to Those Alberta boys, Three Dead Trolls in a Baggy is www.deadtroll.com
if U goto www.deadtrolls.com it's a porno site, and not very Canadian, I assume!
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To answer the original topic:
Yes, I own one - but I'm sellling it ;^) .
I recently purchased a pile of old Amiga-hardware in uncertain condition and there were two 2024er. I already sold one system with an 1-MB-A1000 and an A2024. It did work and was quite interesting. A seond system like that will soon hit eBay ;^) .
Have fun,
McTrinsic
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Anyone got the schematics for A2024?
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Does anyone remember the third-party A2024 replacement, the Viking Moniterm? Or at least I think that was what it was, and what it was called... ;-)