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Title: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: x303 on April 27, 2010, 06:32:49 PM
Artur Jarosik just released another version of his port, Netsurf 2.5.

Change Log:
===========

 1.7 [20.04.2010]
 ----------------

 * Updated to NetSurf 2.5 release. All changes here:
   http://source.netsurf-browser.org/branches/release/netsurf/2.5/ChangeLog?view=markup

   In short: new cache makes NS two to three times faster.
      * Updated libpng to 1.2.43.
      * Updated libz to 1.2.4.
      * Updated libsdl_image to 1.2.10.
      * Updated getvideo to 0.25 (by Juergen Lucas).
      * New option 'charset' - put here character set of your country for a proper text display. Default is ISO-8859-2.

You can download this version here: http://aminet.net/comm/www/NetSurf-m68k.lha
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: utri007 on April 27, 2010, 10:28:34 PM
Nice work :) it feels faster, amigaworld loads about 10 seconds so that I can scroll window, but it seems that if I try scroll it locks my amiga time to time for quite long time 10-15 seconds, even when page is completely loaded.

Amiga.org doesn't load completely or page layout is corrupted and it allso locks my amiga totally.

After amigaworld is loaded I've 29mb free memory, after amiga os is loaded I've 53mb free memory, total memory is 64mb.

Previous version was more usable, amiga.org worked 100% and it didn't lock computer that bad
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: apj on April 28, 2010, 03:55:01 PM
Quote from: utri007;555645
Nice work :) it feels faster, amigaworld loads about 10 seconds so that I can scroll window, but it seems that if I try scroll it locks my amiga time to time for quite long time 10-15 seconds, even when page is completely loaded.

Amiga.org doesn't load completely or page layout is corrupted and it allso locks my amiga totally.

After amigaworld is loaded I've 29mb free memory, after amiga os is loaded I've 53mb free memory, total memory is 64mb.

Previous version was more usable, amiga.org worked 100% and it didn't lock computer that bad


That's been fixed. I will upload release w/o this bug today.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: Seiya on April 28, 2010, 04:59:15 PM
i tryed on Amikit, but not very stable, however youtube don't play video with FFMpeg.
i choose "play" (it require assign to TCP !!??) and then?
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: apj on April 28, 2010, 05:30:40 PM
Quote from: Seiya;555732
i tryed on Amikit, but not very stable, however youtube don't play video with FFMpeg.
i choose "play" (it require assign to TCP !!??) and then?


Use install script.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: Tajmaster on April 28, 2010, 05:35:46 PM
What sort of system is the minimum recommended for this newer, faster release?
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: apj on April 28, 2010, 07:04:35 PM
Quote from: Tajmaster;555740
What sort of system is the minimum recommended for this newer, faster release?


Your fastest amiga with gfx :)

Post written in NS.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: Tajmaster on April 28, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
ive got an A1200 with 030/50 Blizzard board and as CV64/3D, will that be good enough?
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: whabang on April 28, 2010, 09:57:10 PM
Awesome! Will try this tomorrow.

EDIT: Previous versions were somewhat slow, even under WinUAE on a fairly fast PC. I would recomend sticking to Aweb if you are using 030.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: x303 on April 28, 2010, 10:16:09 PM
Not if your wanna view pages which has css.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: unusedunused on April 29, 2010, 08:04:59 AM
Quote from: __artur;555724
That's been fixed. I will upload release w/o this bug today.


You have add wrong ixemul.library to your libs folder.Its a version for poolmem.The poolmem version you should not release because it cause on netsurf slowdown after longer use due to mem fragmentations.The poolmem version is only need for developing, because here can AOS memtracker tools use to see Bugs immidiatly.

I recommend all user to use the older ixemul for better speed, or better delete the file in netsurf/libs dir.the poolmem ixemul give a message out in sashimi ixemul for poolmem used.

also maybe artur can change the installer so it ask if ixemul should instal or not.
I think its no good idea to install library all the time.

a release of ixemul V63.1 come soon, (diego need upload it)its need because ffplay Team have use for better timing usleep.And this work not good on all older ixemul (do also hangs), i replace the code with the AOS hires timer and increase libnum so user
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: unusedunused on April 29, 2010, 08:16:50 AM
Here is also a link to the development plan, as stand here, netsurf should speedup more when libdom come

http://wiki.netsurf-browser.org/Development_Plan
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: selco on April 29, 2010, 10:27:17 AM
The latest version works really great. I am just writing this on Netsurf in WinUAE.
* The proxy-problem has been solved, so Netsurf can now really be used in a company network where a company proxy is required. (former releases failed on most pages with "base stylesheet failed to load" ow its working great!
* I use ixemul.library 62.1 as suggested by Bernd (the newer debug version slowed the system down a lot)

Thanks to the Netsurf team for this great development, thank Artur for your prting effort.

Artur, could yu add an Amiga version string to the executable?

regards selco
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: unusedunused on April 29, 2010, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: selco;555807
The latest version works really great. I am just writing this on Netsurf in WinUAE.
* The proxy-problem has been solved, so Netsurf can now really be used in a company network where a company proxy is required. (former releases failed on most pages with "base stylesheet failed to load" ow its working great!
* I use ixemul.library 62.1 as suggested by Bernd (the newer debug version slowed the system down a lot)

Thanks to the Netsurf team for this great development, thank Artur for your prting effort.

Artur, could yu add an Amiga version string to the executable?

regards selco


I do some tests, the problem due to much fetchers it get slower, i see not without JIT
maybe some user can test on classic machine if this changes on options file run faster.

min_reflow_period:300
max_fetchers:8
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: utri007 on April 29, 2010, 07:34:53 PM
What was a file were these are?

min_reflow_period:300
max_fetchers:8

[edit] I found it. What was original values? What kind of testing you want me to do?

I would say I doens't feel faster.

I've one wish, it is cosmetical :) would it be possible to do so that when I click link or type new addres, netsurf window would turn black immediately? Just like when it started? Now I can see google page about 25-30 seconds before nothing happen.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: x303 on April 30, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
If I come on a secure site, netsurf asks me for SSLROOT. How should I set it ? Does ssl actually work, btw ?
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: unusedunused on April 30, 2010, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: x303;556008
If I come on a secure site, netsurf asks me for SSLROOT. How should I set it ? Does ssl actually work, btw ?


with what site you test ?
I search netsurf dir, ixemul dir there is no sslroot string find.maybe you can tell in snoopdos what task sslroot want.

I dont understand how SSL work.when i use windows browsers, i get error that the ssl certificate is outdate.but later the shtml string is change to html string
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: x303 on April 30, 2010, 06:41:24 PM
Netsurf asks for a rootdir on every secure page. Test with google (default page set), click on gmail. Netsurf system req. pops up asking you: 'Please insert volume SSLROOT in any drive. What every you click next, netsurf always complains: "unable to fetch document".

Another bug is when the program sometimes writes the window width & height to the options file. The width & height are then being changed (from 800x600) to 76025256 or something similar. Looks like an signed/unsigned problem.

Snoopdos says:

1     Netsurf            Open       env:SDL_NOLOWERTASKPRI      Read    Fail
2     Netsurf            Open       PROGDIR:Resources/throbber/ Read    OK  
3     Netsurf            Open       PROGDIR:Resources/Navigatio Read    OK  
4     Netsurf            Open       PROGDIR:Resources/Navigatio Read    OK  
5     Netsurf            Open       env:no_proxy                Read    Fail
6     Netsurf            Open       env:NO_PROXY                Read    Fail
7     Netsurf            Open       env:http_proxy              Read    Fail
8     Netsurf            Open       env:all_proxy               Read    Fail
9     Netsurf            Open       env:ALL_PROXY               Read    Fail
10    Netsurf            Open       PROGDIR:Resources/throbber/ Read    OK  
11    Netsurf            Open       env:no_proxy                Read    Fail
12    Netsurf            Open       env:NO_PROXY                Read    Fail
13    Netsurf            Open       env:https_proxy             Read    Fail
14    Netsurf            Open       env:HTTPS_PROXY             Read    Fail
15    Netsurf            Open       env:all_proxy               Read    Fail
16    Netsurf            Open       env:ALL_PROXY               Read    Fail
17    Netsurf            Open       PROGDIR:Resources/throbber/ Read    OK  
18    Netsurf            Open       env:RANDFILE                Read    Fail
19    Netsurf            OpenLib    locale.library              Ver 0   OK  


x303 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: apj on May 01, 2010, 09:15:45 AM
Thats because I updated openssl which requires certificates in SSLROOT.
You can download it from here http://amiga.sourceforge.net/OpenSSL/ .

Https pages doesn't work for me but maybe for you?
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: unusedunused on May 01, 2010, 10:11:52 AM
Quote from: __artur;556112
Thats because I updated openssl which requires certificates in SSLROOT.
You can download it from here http://amiga.sourceforge.net/OpenSSL/ .

Https pages doesn't work for me but maybe for you?


maybe can ask the dev on this page of openssl, if he get netsurf working.maybe he understand more from this.
when netsurf need the sslroot then openssl 1.0 need download.it can work with ixemul and libnix, but if it maybe not work for you, maybe you test a non beta version.maybe the 0.9.61 for ixemul only if that work better

also maybe somebody know where can get 0.9.7m openssl version.In the OWB 1.6 docu stand that opensll work with that.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: x303 on May 01, 2010, 12:40:22 PM
Quote from: __artur;556112
Thats because I updated openssl which requires certificates in SSLROOT.
You can download it from here http://amiga.sourceforge.net/OpenSSL/ .

Https pages doesn't work for me but maybe for you?

No, even if i set sslroot to the certs dir, it still doesn't work. Does anyone know if netsurf (on linux, risc or os4) works with secure pages ?
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: unusedunused on May 01, 2010, 06:54:07 PM
Quote from: x303;556139
No, even if i set sslroot to the certs dir, it still doesn't work. Does anyone know if netsurf (on linux, risc or os4) works with secure pages ?


with older openssl lib netsurf give a error out cant resolve page.but with this openssl1.0 version netsurf give no error out.but log show a 302 error.what 302 is can read here

http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html

maybe wait for the windows version, so can compare more easy whats a general netsurf problem or is a amiga port only problem

when look on logout of
netsurf -v
i get this, so https is init.but a the google Mail page is not show



desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 146: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/Options' for Options file
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 150: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/messages' as Messages file
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_register 154: curl_version libcurl/7.19.5 OpenSSL/1.0.0 zlib/1.2.5
utils/useragent.c user_agent_build_string 72: Built user agent "NetSurf/3.0 (AmigaOS; m68k)"
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_register 211: cURL linked against openssl
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for tftp
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for ftp
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for telnet
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for dict
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for http
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for file
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for https
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for ftps        

....
desktop/browser.c browser_window_go_post 303: bw 0x12770a08, url http://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=de&tab=wm
desktop/browser.c browser_window_go_post 415: Loading 'http://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=de&tab=wm'
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_setup 323: fetch 0x1298d5d8, url 'http://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=de&tab=wm'
framebuffer/schedule.c schedule 63: adding callback 0x129796d8 for  0x1208bcba(0x12770b08) at 10 cs
framebuffer/schedule.c schedule_run 164: callback entry 0x129796d8 running 0x1208bcba(0x12770b08)
framebuffer/schedule.c schedule 63: adding callback 0x1298f458 for  0x1208bcba(0x12770b08) at 10 cs
framebuffer/fbtk.c fbtk_click 1057: click 280, 71            

url.c fetch_curl_process_headers 1122: HTTP status code 302
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_process_headers 1133: FETCH_REDIRECT, 'https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?
service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fhl%3Dde%26tab%3Dwm%26ui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&
bsv=1eic6yu9oa4y3&scc=1<mpl=googlemail&hl=de'
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_abort 636: fetch 0x1298d5d8, url 'http://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=de&tab=wm'
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_setup 323: fetch 0x129909d8, url 'https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?servi
ce=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fhl%3Dde%26tab%3Dwm%26ui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&bsv=1
eic6yu9oa4y3&scc=1<mpl=googlemail&hl=de'
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_done 769: done http://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=de&tab=wm
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_stop 657: fetch 0x1298d5d8, url 'http://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=de&tab=wm'
framebuffer/schedule.c schedule_run 164: callback entry 0x1298f458 running 0x1208bcba(0x12770b08)
framebuffer/schedule.c schedule 63: adding callback 0x12979298 for  0x1208bcba(0x12770b08) at 10 cs
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_done 769: done https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=tru
e&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fhl%3Dde%26tab%3Dwm%26ui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&bsv=1eic6yu9oa4y3&scc=1&
ltmpl=googlemail&hl=de
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_stop 657: fetch 0x129909d8, url 'https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?servic
e=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fhl%3Dde%26tab%3Dwm%26ui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&bsv=1e
ic6yu9oa4y3&scc=1<mpl=googlemail&hl=de'
framebuffer/schedule.c schedule_run 164: callback entry 0x12979298 running 0x1208bcba(0x12770b08)
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: Tumbleweed on May 01, 2010, 07:04:58 PM
I've just downloaded NetSurf V1.8 from Aminet, but it doesn't seem to be a s stable as V1.7. I also get two windows when I run it - the NetSurf Window and an "Output" window - which doesn't seem to do anything. What version should we be running 1.7 or 1.8?

Weed
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: apj on May 01, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
What is in this window?
I don't get any.

EDIT:AH you wrote already. Strange! No idea.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: MozzerFan on May 02, 2010, 03:55:15 AM
Quote from: Tumbleweed;556177
I've just downloaded NetSurf V1.8 from Aminet, but it doesn't seem to be a s stable as V1.7. I also get two windows when I run it - the NetSurf Window and an "Output" window - which doesn't seem to do anything. What version should we be running 1.7 or 1.8?
 
Weed

That's because in the icon info, netsurf is started from the shell.
 
Choose icon info from the Workbench menu, goto the icon tab, and change it in "start from workbench". Then it will start without an output window.
 
@Artur
 
Thanks for the 1.8 release.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: Tumbleweed on May 02, 2010, 08:29:05 AM
Doh! As simple as that. Thanks MozzerFan.

Weed.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: chris on May 05, 2010, 11:37:12 PM
Quote from: x303;556139
No, even if i set sslroot to the certs dir, it still doesn't work. Does anyone know if netsurf (on linux, risc or os4) works with secure pages ?


Yes, they do.
Title: Re: Netsurf A68K v1.7 available
Post by: x303 on May 06, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
I've read over here http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/progress#NSF that netsurf indeed supports https, so this problem is only in the a68k version. Maybe this can be put on the todo list.

x303 :D :D :D