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Title: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Wayne on April 09, 2010, 02:21:07 PM
Good morning guys,
 
I know this is pretty much a case where a search would have been helpful, but I am wondering if Amiga Inc is officially dead and buried.
 
Was browsing around this morning when I notice that Amiga.com won't pull up.  This could just be my work connection, which censors everything for my protection, but a WHOIS gets me;
 
Quote
Feb 11, 2010 ... amiga.com. This domain name has been suspended due to invalid Whois information.
 If you are the registrant of this domain name please ...

Then I notice on the bunny that all of the trademarks were suspended YEARS ago under challenge;
 
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940434 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940434)
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940417 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940417)
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426)
 
As such, is Amiga Incorporated officially gone, dead and buried?
 
Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Karlos on April 09, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
It pretty much looks that way at the moment.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: x303 on April 09, 2010, 02:28:26 PM
Well, if you go here: https://www.verio.com/domain-name-registration/index.cfm?cid=%27%24JGTS%20SLS%40%20%20%0A

and check for amiga.com, it is available for just $9.95 a year.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Wayne on April 09, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: x303;552476
Well, if you go here: https://www.verio.com/domain-name-registration/index.cfm?cid=%27%24JGTS%20SLS%40%20%20%0A
 
and check for amiga.com, it is available for just $9.95 a year.

Yes, but if you try to purchase it (as I did) it comes up as not available.  I'm guessing it's pending deletion for the invalid WHOIS info..
 
The way the expiration date works is that the date listed (the 2011) is to allow godaddy to keep it in their system during the grace period, which I'm not sure applies.
 
Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: dammy on April 09, 2010, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Wayne;552481
Yes, but if you try to purchase it (as I did) it comes up as not available.  I'm guessing it's pending deletion for the invalid WHOIS info..
 
The way the expiration date works is that the date listed (the 2011) is to allow godaddy to keep it in their system during the grace period, which I'm not sure applies.
 
Wayne


I don't think anyone can touch it until the expiration date expires.  I'd equate it to the unofficial parking space by not letting it resolve.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Wayne on April 09, 2010, 02:49:07 PM
Quote from: dammy;552483
I don't think anyone can touch it until the expiration date expires. I'd equate it to the unofficial parking space by not letting it resolve.
Called Godaddy, you are correct.  It expires in June, but is suspended currently for invalid WHOIS information and there's been no attempt to correct that issue.
 
Dead.  The line forms to the left.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: meega on April 09, 2010, 02:50:11 PM
Quote from: Wayne;552481
Yes, but if you try to purchase it (as I did) it comes up as not available.  I'm guessing it's pending deletion for the invalid WHOIS info..
 

Or, it could just be a resurrection of that grand old internet registrars' practice of front-running... again. It was available, until you asked for it, when we instantly "tasted" (registered) it ourselves (for your convenience) and we'll "hold" it "available" for you (as long as you pay us $X), because we don't actually have to pay for it yet...
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: ltstanfo on April 09, 2010, 03:24:42 PM
No surprise here Wayne.  I'm just amused that their website lasted as long as it did.  Now where is that photo by Eric Schwartz that shows Amy looking over the grave of Amiga?  We could use it to close out this thread.

Regards,
Ltstanfo
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: jj on April 09, 2010, 03:28:47 PM
Quote from: Wayne;552472
Good morning guys,
 
I know this is pretty much a case where a search would have been helpful, but I am wondering if Amiga Inc is officially dead and buried.
 
Was browsing around this morning when I notice that Amiga.com won't pull up. This could just be my work connection, which censors everything for my protection, but a WHOIS gets me;
 
 
 
Then I notice on the bunny that all of the trademarks were suspended YEARS ago under challenge;
 
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940434 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940434)
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940417 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940417)
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426)
 
As such, is Amiga Incorporated officially gone, dead and buried?
 
Wayne

Pretty much everyhting blocked where I work also.   Glad to hear you are employed again though Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: countzero on April 09, 2010, 04:50:34 PM
Ah, this is very good news to start a day indeed ! :)

I hope the Amiga copyrights also fall into PD or into the hands of someone who'll do something about them ...
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Christian Johansson on April 09, 2010, 04:51:43 PM
Don't buy it, you'll get the amiga curse and die! ;)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Varthall on April 09, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
They have closed their office in Snoqualmie as well.

Varthall
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on April 09, 2010, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: Wayne;552481
Yes, but if you try to purchase it (as I did) it comes up as not available.  I'm guessing it's pending deletion for the invalid WHOIS info..
 
The way the expiration date works is that the date listed (the 2011) is to allow godaddy to keep it in their system during the grace period, which I'm not sure applies.
 
Wayne


I tried to buy it too, but by using godaddy's "Domain Buy Service", where you pay them to negotiate a deal with the domain owner. You don't have to google much to get a hold of upset articles on the web describing how godaddy has a habbit of pulling back domains for more or less valid reasons (invalid whois info being one that often gets mentioned), to sell them off to new customers. I thought I might have a chance by using the "Domain Buy Service" from godaddy themselves, so I paid the fee! :) After a while though, I had suddenly "asked for a refund" (huh?!??!), the service was canceled, and my money put back into my account. I asked for an explanation, but never got one. Anyway, worth a try! ;)

Anyway, if anyone is interested, their "Certified Domain Name Appraisal" service (which was included in the Domain Buy service) suggested that the domain to be worth between $1,268-$3,296. My ass! A domain that has been dead for a decade. But I was prepared to pay $1,500 for it, which also was my bid.

My plan was actually to make a latino-lesbian site out of it. Seriously! :)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: persia on April 09, 2010, 06:04:03 PM
Assuming no one from Amiga Inc steps in to claim it, Amiga.com will go to auction.  You have to realise that while it is worthless as a computer domain the name "Amiga" means Female friend in both Portuguese and Spanish.  It could easily be worth a small fortune to a dating service or the infamous Español Lesbianas.

My guess:  minimum €25,000, maximum €250,000.  

This is big, a real word, in a big real language, in dot com.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on April 09, 2010, 06:12:37 PM
Quote from: persia;552534
Assuming no one from Amiga Inc steps in to claim it, Amiga.com will go to auction.  You have to realise that while it is worthless as a computer domain the name "Amiga" means Female friend in both Portuguese and Spanish.  It could easily be worth a small fortune to a dating service or the infamous Español Lesbianas.

My guess:  minimum €25,000, maximum €250,000.  

This is big, a real word, in a big real language, in dot com.


Worth a try though, right...? ;)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: cecilia on April 09, 2010, 07:07:24 PM
If we let the Español Lesbianas get amiga.com The Terrorist Win!!!






(joke alert)  :)
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Fisketryne on April 09, 2010, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: cecilia;552544
If we let the Español Lesbianas get amiga.com The Terrorist Win!!!

(joke alert)  :)


Just registered to say that I hope some money strong Amiga fan will buy the domain and turn it in to a forum where oft embittered fans of yore can argue in peace. Oh, wait ;)

Btw: Did not really register to say this. However, I will post an amazing message in 6-7 days, it´s gonna be epic.

/could not help it
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Trev on April 09, 2010, 08:39:24 PM
Hyperion will be after the domain and anyone who tries to grab it first. It wouldn't be difficult for them to win a dispute.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: ChuckT on April 09, 2010, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: Trev;552572
Hyperion will be after the domain and anyone who tries to grab it first. It wouldn't be difficult for them to win a dispute.


The question would be, if Hyperion takes Amiga.com and the previous owners come back, would there be a fight for the domain name?
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Pyromania on April 09, 2010, 09:25:31 PM
Quote from: Wayne;552472
Good morning guys,
 
I know this is pretty much a case where a search would have been helpful, but I am wondering if Amiga Inc is officially dead and buried.
 
Was browsing around this morning when I notice that Amiga.com won't pull up.  This could just be my work connection, which censors everything for my protection, but a WHOIS gets me;
 

 
Then I notice on the bunny that all of the trademarks were suspended YEARS ago under challenge;
 
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940434 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940434)
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940417 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940417)
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426 (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426)
 
As such, is Amiga Incorporated officially gone, dead and buried?
 
Wayne



Maybe they are just on summer holiday for 2010.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Pete_Noir on April 09, 2010, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;552581
Maybe they are just on summer holiday for 2010.

Yeah, they're probably throwing boing balls around on the beach right now!
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: persia on April 09, 2010, 10:42:02 PM
In theory Hyperion could file a dispute with whomever wins the auction.  But I don't think the .com folks would be willing to overturn that hi priced an auction.  It just wouldn't happen.  

Alos nationality plays a part.  A "foreign" (from an American POV) firm has never won a dot Com battle with an American firm.  So if the winner of the auction were American then it wouldn't be worth Hyperion's time and energy to dispute it.  Hyperion isn't a successor to Amiga Inc (and wouldn't want to be considering the pile of debt they've built up), they've got very little claim to Amiga.com
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: kolla on April 09, 2010, 11:48:21 PM
Quote from: Fisketryne;552571

Btw: Did not really register to say this. However, I will post an amazing message in 6-7 days, it´s gonna be epic.

Announcing a poster of you registering amiga.com?
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: gaula92 on April 09, 2010, 11:48:50 PM
I was reading the whole thread just to see how long would it take for persia to talk about the spanish lesbians idea :D
It's always the same: a thread about Amiga Inc pops up here, and after four or five posts, persia comes up with the spanish lesbianas, hahahaha! :D

Fortunatelly for us spanish guys, there aren't many lesbians here... it's hard enough to get sex here already! don't give out girls any funny ideas! :D
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Tension on April 09, 2010, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: kolla;552616
Announcing a poster of you registering amiga.com?


Sounds quite plausable.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Fisketryne on April 10, 2010, 12:19:21 AM
Quote from: kolla;552616
Announcing a poster of you registering amiga.com?


And on the poster, there will be hints of a future streamed event :rtfm:
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: persia on April 10, 2010, 03:09:53 AM
They offered more than the US$10K that Wayne got for Amiga.org.  He didn't try to get them into a bidding war, but who knows how much they would pay for Amiga.com

My point is that the chief bidders for Amiga.com won't be computer users.

Quote from: gaula92;552617
I was reading the whole thread just to see how long would it take for persia to talk about the spanish lesbians idea :D
It's always the same: a thread about Amiga Inc pops up here, and after four or five posts, persia comes up with the spanish lesbianas, hahahaha! :D

Fortunatelly for us spanish guys, there aren't many lesbians here... it's hard enough to get sex here already! don't give out girls any funny ideas! :D
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Belial6 on April 10, 2010, 05:34:52 AM
Quote from: gaula92;552617
I was reading the whole thread just to see how long would it take for persia to talk about the spanish lesbians idea :D
It's always the same: a thread about Amiga Inc pops up here, and after four or five posts, persia comes up with the spanish lesbianas, hahahaha! :D

Fortunatelly for us spanish guys, there aren't many lesbians here... it's hard enough to get sex here already! don't give out girls any funny ideas! :D


Seriously, what is it with guys obsession with lesbians.  Personally I prefer my women Bi.
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Rob on April 10, 2010, 07:43:31 AM
So do the Spanish homosexuals want http://www.amigo.com
Title: Re: Amiga Inc formally dead?
Post by: Arkhan on April 10, 2010, 08:22:59 AM
Quote from: Rob;552671
So do the Spanish homosexuals want http://www.amigo.com


hell they may want Amiga.com.    Who knows how many of em are queens!
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: