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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: stachu100 on April 09, 2010, 09:00:04 AM
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Hi,
As an experiment I tried to put 604e@350MHz CPU onto Blizzard PPC.
Modification done:
1) PPC CPU replaced ;)
2) Oscillator 60MHz with x5,5 which gives 330MHz frequency for CPU core
3) Removed original 2,5V voltage regulator
4) 1,9V/10A voltage regulator added ("classic" type soldered ad-hoc just to proof the concept)
5) +5V from power supply connected to 1,9V voltage regulator directly; without it I've measured 4,5V on the Blizzard PPC instead of 5V
As a results card is booting without RAM, but PPC is not recognized:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH99QWKycO4
With RAM installed I have RAM error:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H-huajbnVA
Pictures:
http://picasaweb.google.pl/stacho100...HzUnsuccessful (http://picasaweb.google.pl/stacho100/BlizzardPPCWith604e350MHzUnsuccessful)#
So I assume that Blizzard PPC software inside flash memory cannot init 604e correctly (lack of proper routines inside Blizzard PPC flash) and/or logic on the board is not working with 604e because onboard CPLD IC's are not adopted to serve 604e.
Anyway as I'm not a genius :lol: I will drop the idea to modify Blizzard PPC hardware/software and just un-solder 604e and put standard 603e@300MHz.
But at least I tried.
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Hi,
As an experiment I tried to put 604e@350MHz CPU onto Blizzard PPC.
Modification done:
1) PPC CPU replaced ;)
2) Oscillator 60MHz with x5,5 which gives 330MHz frequency for CPU core
3) Removed original 2,5V voltage regulator
4) 1,9V/10A voltage regulator added ("classic" type soldered ad-hoc just to proof the concept)
5) +5V from power supply connected to 1,9V voltage regulator directly; without it I've measured 4,5V on the Blizzard PPC instead of 5V
As a results card is booting without RAM, but PPC is not recognized:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH99QWKycO4
With RAM installed I have RAM error:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H-huajbnVA
Pictures:
http://picasaweb.google.pl/stacho100...HzUnsuccessful (http://picasaweb.google.pl/stacho100/BlizzardPPCWith604e350MHzUnsuccessful)#
So I assume that Blizzard PPC software inside flash memory cannot init 604e correctly (lack of proper routines inside Blizzard PPC flash) and/or logic on the board is not working with 604e because onboard CPLD IC's are not adopted to serve 604e.
Anyway as I'm not a genius :lol: I will drop the idea to modify Blizzard PPC hardware/software and just un-solder 604e and put standard 603e@300MHz.
But at least I tried.
looking at the photos DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
im not going to explain whats wrong but im going to leave it up to other users.
the card has every single right not to work.
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:)
I was expecting such comment from you.
looking at the photos DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
im not going to explain whats wrong but im going to leave it up to other users.
the card has every single right not to work.
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Are the parts even pin compatible?
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Isn't the BPPC BGA... How the hell did you solder that!! :o
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Almost...
Differences are well described in hardware specification for both processors.
Are the parts even pin compatible?
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Thousands of people are doing this every day; it's just the question of equipment, some knowledge and some manual skills.
Nothing special really...
Isn't the BPPC BGA... How the hell did you solder that!! :o
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i also solder in BGA, iv being doing it for over three years so you can kind of call me a expert.
so i can choose how im going to solder/install in a BGA component,semi-auto or almost complete manual and belive me when i say manual i mean by hand.
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Hm, I see you have only 1 ram card inserted. I always thought the 2 memory banks must be filled with 2 cards of the same amount, just as i have in my blizzppc.
x303 :D :D :D
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Hm, I see you have only 1 ram card inserted. I always thought the 2 memory banks must be filled with 2 cards of the same amount, just as i have in my blizzppc.
x303 :D :D :D
you first need to identify the problem with the modifcation ( yes i do know the answer ) someone sooner or later will post whats wrong.
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Your post gave me an idea to try insert 2 SIMM's :)
I'm 100% sure that standard Blizzard PPC (without 604e modification) is working with only one SIMM; checked several times.
For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SloiWlPkG18
But it's worth to try :)
Hm, I see you have only 1 ram card inserted. I always thought the 2 memory banks must be filled with 2 cards of the same amount, just as i have in my blizzppc.
x303 :D :D :D
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Of course you know the answer; it's wrong PPC frequency multipier on picture.
I'am correct?
you first need to identify the problem with the modifcation ( yes i do know the answer ) someone sooner or later will post whats wrong.
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Well i checked the manual (yes, i still have one) and it should indeed work with 1 simm card.
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@delshay
Since you know the answer as stated, why don't you give some help or hint to Stachu100? Why the mystery? lol
Don't get me wrong but since I don't think you compete for anything... You could help him a bit.
Anyway, maybe I'm on the wrong side but your reaction seemed like you were angry of him trying something @ his own hardware without hurting anyone :)
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Time to sell it on ebay as an AS IS item.
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Time to sell it on ebay as an AS IS item.
LOL, that's cruel :D
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LOL, that's cruel :D
i agree should be nice, but if he does it should come with a fire engine. where that wire is solder on the regulator is very near the capacitor with little insulation.
i stop working from last month and don`t see why i should help anyone as this was suppose to be a back-up until i find out what future i have ( if any ).
iv being working on the Blizzard card for many years and im not going to hand over the information iv pick-up over the years so other can make a few bucks after i spent a lot of money on research and new skills ( BGA ).
i was going to offer repairs/upgrade. i got so many part i could build two cards from scratch iv already done this i even added in a SCSI.
im still working on a few hacks on the card,and i sill need to know why the PCI works fine @40Mhz with OS4.0 but refuse to work under OS3.x this is one of many things that holding things back.
if you look at my photo album you will see a poor photo of three Bvision *all special*,but there is alway one that stands out of the rest and overclocks better.
which one? see THE MATRIX
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3205
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Envy shows itself in many ways...
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iv being working on the Blizzard card for many years and im not going to hand over the information iv pick-up over the years so other can make a few bucks after i spent a lot of money on research and new skills ( BGA ).
Ouch........do remind me to put (C) copyright and patent pending in my will.
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Ouch........do remind me to put (C) copyright and patent pending in my will.
there is already a patent device in this project but it`s not mine BGA Patent heatsink for the BGA sockets.
their being removed from the PCB at the moment as there was a problem but will be re-attached awaiting the final hack.
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iv being working on the Blizzard card for many years and im not going to hand over the information iv pick-up over the years so other can make a few bucks after i spent a lot of money on research and new skills ( BGA ).
The phrase "TWAT" comes to mind.
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The phrase "TWAT" comes to mind.
you having a go at me after i sent you those free CPU`s.
perhaps you can explain why the 604e does not work?
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you having a go at me after i sent you those free CPU`s.
and this is why i don't accept gifts.
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and this is why i don't accept gifts.
it makes no difference if you pay or it`s free theres was no call for that remark.
he posted then signs out.
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I had a CSPPC and loved the thing... But after years of no joy on software/ os realeases and the antics of those horrible assasins of joy known as Amiga inc.
I sold it.
That's why I made the post. I got good money for it to. Not cruelty. I'd rather climb a stairmaster than tinker with a nice CPU card that no one will support.
Cash from the sale Went towards a MacBook.
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looking at the photos DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
im not going to explain whats wrong but im going to leave it up to other users.
the card has every single right not to work.
you first need to identify the problem with the modifcation ( yes i do know the answer ) someone sooner or later will post whats wrong.
I'm not sure if you realize just how arrogant bitter and twisted you sound, not cool. :(
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..as if you can make a living upgrading Amiga PPC cards...
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If I'm not mistaken the 604 has an 64bit only memory interface but the BlizzardPPC is a 32bit design.
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..as if you can make a living upgrading Amiga PPC cards...
yes i can i have one here already working which i use as a test card done from scratch.
this does not include my other cards which is the fastest Blizzard card in the word,it will match a Cyberstorm 200Mhz. iv already posted benchmark it`s also the first classic amiga to hit 83Mhz bus.
BEHOLD SECOND AND FASTEST BLIZZARD CARD IN THE WORLD FORGET WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT BETA
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?u=1979
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yes i can i have one here already working which i use as a test card done from scratch.
this does not include my other cards which is the fastest Blizzard card in the word,it will match a Cyberstorm 200Mhz. iv already posted benchmark it`s also the first classic amiga to hit 83Mhz bus.
I believe you can do it, I just don't think there are enough cards in the entire world waiting to be upgraded to make anywhere near enough money to live on.
In other words, that's a nice little party trick you can do, by all means keep your secret.
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it makes no difference if you pay or it`s free theres was no call for that remark.
Clearly it does make a difference as you specifically cited the fact that you'd given them to him gratis. I doubt very much you would have done so had he bought them off you.
he posted then signs out.
Oh noes! Someone didn't stay online to wait for your response!
How very dare he do other things! Who does he think he is?!
I personally don't know or care if you're planning on offering some kind of PPC upgrade/repair program to owners of said cards. But apparently having the answers to a question of why something didn't work and waxing lyrical about how you can do it and know where it's all gone wrong does come off as pretty poor. So I'm pretty much in agreement with the assessment that alexh made.
If you know, either tell the guy why or keep quiet about it.
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I'm not sure if you realize just how arrogant bitter and twisted you sound, not cool. :(
so if i choose to keep my mouth shut im in the wrong.
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so if i choose to keep my mouth shut im in the wrong.
..but you didn't! You went "neener neener, I know something but I won't tell!"
Kind of funny how important you think those few PPC cards are.
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..as if you can make a living upgrading Amiga PPC cards...
i can change any componet so im not limited.
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i can change any componet so im not limited.
You are limited, you just dont know it. :)
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You are limited, you just dont know it. :)
While we're on the subject of technological marvels. I saw an AmiJoe card once at MacWorld in NYC years ago. They were happy to talk to an Amiga user and the floor Demo Frauline was HOT!
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Can't we all just get along, but seriously isn't this supposed to be a place to come for assistance and advice.
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Can't we all just get along, but seriously isn't this supposed to be a place to come for assistance and advice.
i agree,but it seems there are a few users that think im wrong for not opening my mouth.
if your going to do somthing its a good idea to read the docs first for better understanding of what your doing.
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you having a go at me after i sent you those free CPU`s.
But what you said was pretty nasty you gotta admit. "I know what's wrong and I'm not going to tell you. Na, Na!" FFS mate we are not 10 years old anymore :)
perhaps you can explain why the 604e does not work?
Nope. And I always thought you did know. You are an intelligent, knowledgable, great Amiga user. It's just I hate it when people don't give away their knowledge freely without any thought of return.
We had people at our company who also who wanted to keep their knowledge to themselves to give them an edge over others. We've made them all redundant! Their recommendation letters effectively read "Does not play well with others".
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i agree,but it seems there are a few users that think im wrong for not opening my mouth.
if your going to do somthing its a good idea to read the docs first for better understanding of what your doing.
Ladies and gentlemen: the amiga community!
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No, thats the attitude of the BSD or Linux community.
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But what you said was pretty nasty you gotta admit. "I know what's wrong and I'm not going to tell you. Na, Na!" FFS mate we are not 10 years old anymore :)
Nope. And I always thought you did know. You are an intelligent, knowledgable, great Amiga user. It's just I hate it when people don't give away their knowledge freely without any thought of return.
We had people at our company who also who wanted to keep their knowledge to themselves to give them an edge over others. We've made them all redundant with recommendation letters which effectively say "Does not play well with others".
hold the phone. there are people out there that spend time and money on doing certain things and yes to have a edge over others for a better future and because thier wont hand over information their given the sack.
if your are a company then you work as a team,but if it private then it does not have to be shared.
their only doing whats best for them at the time,but others will profit from it. ie the end user.
YOU have jump in with your first post and call me a TWAT im not being funny but i will give you the sack as your comment is not professional.
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ladies and gentlemen: The amiga community!
pmsl!!!
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This is obsolete hardware and this is not a company with groundbreaking technilogical hardware....I'm with AlexH on this one.
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hold the phone. there are people out there that spend time and money on doing certain things and yes to have a edge over others for a better future and because thier wont hand over information their given the sack.
if your are a company then you work as a team,but if it private then it does not have to be shared.
there only doing whats best for them at the time,but others will profit from it. ie the end user.
YOU have jump in with your first post and call me a TWAT im not being funny but i will give you the sack as your comments is not professional.
Delshay, I dont think its wrong to try and make a living out of repairing PPC Cards. And if you dont want to share that information, thats fine.
But then publicly thumbing your nose at someone because you know something they dont, well thats plain rude.
I hate to burst people's bubbles here but the Amiga as a platform is a niche one at best now. And if we dont want that to disappear any further, we have to help each other out.
Stachu is providing a service to the remaining members that have PPC cards and he seems quite honest in his dealings. I for one, applaud him for that.
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hold the phone. there are people out there that spend time and money on doing certain things and yes to have a edge over others for a better future and because thier wont hand over information their given the sack.
if your are a company then you work as a team,but if it private then it does not have to be shared.
there only doing whats best for them at the time,but others will profit from it. ie the end user.
YOU have jump in with your first post and call me a TWAT im not being funny but i will give you the sack as your comment is not professional.
Believe it or not your own bitter comments on another user`s work are not professional, and do not contribute towards, help, moral support or even a healthy debate. So I dont seem to get what are your intentions on diminishing the effort of others.
Perhaps if you want to compete on a certain niche market (which certainly is really small), you should do it on service, quality, features and price, but certainly not taking credit out of anyone. That doesnt speak very well in the eyes of others, as an image of a small company/entrepreneur. But then that is professionally speaking. Personally speaking you are always entitled to do as you please.
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Believe it or not your own bitter comments on another user`s work are not professional, and do not contribute towards, help, moral support or even a healthy debate. So I dont seem to get what are your intentions on diminishing the effort of others.
Perhaps if you want to compete on a certain niche market (which certainly is really small), you should do it on service, quality, features and price, but certainly not taking credit out of anyone. That doesnt speak very well in the eyes of others, as an image of a small company/entrepreneur. But then that is professionally speaking. Personally speaking you are always entitled to do as you please.
iv not made any bad comments about his work if i wanted to i would and yes there are a few thing i know about his work but i keep that to myself.
point me to my bitter comments.
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But what you said was pretty nasty you gotta admit. "I know what's wrong and I'm not going to tell you. Na, Na!" FFS mate we are not 10 years old anymore :)
but it does not give you the right to call me a TWAT
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iv being working on the Blizzard card for many years and im not going to hand over the information iv pick-up over the years so other can make a few bucks after i spent a lot of money on research and new skills ( BGA ).
The phrase "TWAT" comes to mind.
you call me a TWAT due-to my above posting and has nothing to do with any other posting.
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TWAdDLE
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delshay your tagline says it all :)
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I have to say, I bought one card from Stan, and he upgraded another card for me.
He was polite, helpful and thoroughly professional throughout the whole experience.
Delshay, your attitude on this thread portrays someone who has an axe to grind and personally, I would probably have decided to not trade with you had you been offering a similar service based on that fact.
You may have extra special secret knowledge and that may have been hard earned, but it's not going to do you any good if no one is willing to pay you for that knowledge.
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After getting some excellent help here from www.amiga.org (http://www.amiga.org) in setting up my Amiga 1200 rack I am disappointed to see such bickering.
I know IT professionals at times, like to keep some information to themselves because they feel it makes them feel important and superior to lesser IT professionals and if they give out their knowledge they feel they could be made redundant.
Having someone come on to the forums asking for help and to have someone reply "Well I know what is wrong, but I am not going to help you" makes me wonder why this member posted.
I take my hat off to those that have helped me immensely with my Amiga setup (some even taking the time to post disks for me, email me files, etc), it is a shame some other members are not such forthcoming with information and like to rub others community members nose's in their lack of knowledge.
* hmm appears to not be pin compatible between the 603 and 604 here is the link: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/academic/class/15740-f97/public/platform/ppc604.pdf
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Having someone come on to the forums asking for help and to have someone reply "Well I know what is wrong, but I am not going to help you" makes me wonder why this member posted.
here what i posted
you first need to identify the problem with the modifcation ( yes i do know the answer ) someone sooner or later will post whats wrong.
i did not say BUT I NOT GOING TO HELP YOU that would be direct and rude..
some calling me a TWAT was direct.... why is no one commenting on this,perhaps some of you are sticking up for him.
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Out of topic:
Today the biggest tragedy happened for Polish Nation in the modern history.
I kindly ask all of you for one minute of silence.
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Yeah I was very sorry to hear that my friend :(
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Delshay, your attitude on this thread portrays someone who has an axe to grind and personally, I would probably have decided to not trade with you had you been offering a similar service based on that fact.
fine with me do what you think is better for you.
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here what i posted
you first need to identify the problem with the modifcation ( yes i do know the answer ) someone sooner or later will post whats wrong.
i did not say BUT I NOT GOING TO HELP YOU that would be direct and rude..
some calling me a TWAT was direct.... why is no one commenting on this,perhaps some of you are sticking up for him.
You said you knew the answer, I don't think anyone has posted the answer (yet), so why don't you tell us what the issue is and then we'll all be wiser.
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You said you knew the answer, I don't think anyone has posted the answer (yet), so why don't you tell us what the issue is and then we'll all be wiser.
the answer is in the thread someone posted it.
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i can change any componet so im not limited.
What about the CPLDs? Do you have spares of those? If yes, are they parts you've salvaged from other dead boards or just new parts? If the latter, how will you program them?
I'd be interested to have a separate chat with you if you have access to the necessary code to program the devices with. Assuming you'll share the information, that is.
Apple Hammer
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I just had a look through the pdf that Tasmanian Guy posted, and read the following:
"The 604 is not pin-compatible with
the 603, as it requires additional power and ground pins
to feed its 10-W (typical) power consumption"
This suggests that it might be possible to fit a 604 to a Blizzard PPC provided that an adaptor board were made and that the extra power pins were taken care of. If it is possible to design an adaptor board (need to read the rest of the document and digest it first) then the outer SMT connections could be used for the adaptor board itself. This would make for much easier CPU swapping at a later time!
A lot more work, though...
Apple Hammer
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Out of topic:
Today the biggest tragedy happened for Polish Nation in the modern history.
I kindly ask all of you for one minute of silence.
['] ['] ['] ['] ['] ['] ['] ['] ['] ['] ['] ['] [']
I just had a look on the BBC news site to see what you were talking about. That is a horrible tragedy.
Poland was the first country I visited when I got my passport (last year). I went to Warsaw. I'd love to go back, but this time I think I'd like to visit Krakov.
Sorry to hear your bad news.
Apple Hammer
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I just had a look through the pdf that Tasmanian Guy posted, and read the following:
"The 604 is not pin-compatible with
the 603, as it requires additional power and ground pins
to feed its 10-W (typical) power consumption"
This suggests that it might be possible to fit a 604 to a Blizzard PPC provided that an adaptor board were made and that the extra power pins were taken care of. If it is possible to design an adaptor board (need to read the rest of the document and digest it first) then the outer SMT connections could be used for the adaptor board itself. This would make for much easier CPU swapping at a later time!
A lot more work, though...
Apple Hammer
thats not the real problem why a 604 will not work,an adpator board will not fix the problem.
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Anything to do with the 604 requiring a 64bit memory controller, while the 603 can use the 32bit one on the BPPC?
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Anything to do with the 604 requiring a 64bit memory controller, while the 603 can use the 32bit one on the BPPC?
jackpot!
well done!
pin-compatible was never a issue as most are n/c on the Blizzard card anyway. but there are many signals that are not tied it does not seem to effect the 603e or does not show up but never the less even on the 603e their should be tied. this will effect other processors which some signals are marked as critical when useing a different processor on the Blizzaard card.
according to some of the docs iv read *all* signal should be tied if not used. the Blizzard PPC card has as many as 65 signals from my last count but it seems only about half of the 65 signals i can get away with not being tied.
critical signals must be addressed otherwise the processor will not work.
i can add some of the missing tracks on the PCB and tied some of the critcal signals but this can only be done with BGA socket.
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Anything to do with the 604 requiring a 64bit memory controller, while the 603 can use the 32bit one on the BPPC?
Ah yes, of course. But I believe the 603 can use a 64-bit memory controller as well as a 32-bit one, is that right?
The 604 doesn't have that ability?
Apple Hammer
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Hmmm, I wonder if something can be done about that.
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jackpot!
well done!
In all honesty it would of been easier to say this in your first post than let it go on to numerous pages.
Least we know why now.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge................................ in the end.
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@Tasmanian Guy
So it appears there are two problems. First is the fact that it's not pin compatible, as you mentioned, and second is that there may be an incompatibility with the memory controller, as bloodline mentioned.
It'd be an interesting project to design a work around for this!
Apple Hammer
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@Tasmanian Guy
So it appears there are two problems. First is the fact that it's not pin compatible, as you mentioned, and second is that there may be an incompatibility with the memory controller, as bloodline mentioned.
It'd be an interesting project to design a work around for this!
Apple Hammer
Hmm is it worth it though? The Amiga was a great computer and served me well from 1989 through to about 1994 or so. My current Amiga while not being the fastest Amiga on the planet, does it job with a 68030 at 50mhz with 64mb of ram, perhaps we should put our money and effort into the clones that are coming out this year with the fpgaarcade and the natami (hopefully).
I have a fond love of the Amiga and though setting it up has been a frustrating but rewarding experience, it has been worth it! I look forward to the clones where we can have Amiga's running at crazy speeds for those that need the speed (serious apps, eg Imagine 3d, etc) but also have a very high level of compatability with game software / etc.
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Blizzard PPC with 604e which I did is not working with two SIMM's (the same size SIMM's). Tried with different pairs of SIMM's. Sorry.
As my attempt was just simply trial to check if it is working without any adapter board and additional Blizzard PPC hardware/software modification (well, I did one connection on 604e processor as described in Hardware Specification to adopt 604e to 603e system) I can assume my trial as failure.
Some Amiga users from Poland declared to look inside flash dump to check what they can do here; if someone else is interested I'm ready to send this file by e-mail or upload this file somwhere.
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@stachu100
Do you have any plans to attemp this modification on a CSPPC?
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ok lets get something clear.
was is right for alexh to call me a TWAT?
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ok lets get something clear.
was is right for alexh to call me a TWAT?
Yes.
Moving on.
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Come on man... he haven't used any F or C word...
Could be another meaning as well... :P
(http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/twat-10195.jpg)
Anyway thx for the enlightenment of issue related to the failure
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Yes.
Moving on.
your just a wanker just like him then..
next
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You're just a wanker just like him then..
Next
ftfy.
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ftfy.
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@Delshay,
Have you found even a single person in support of your arguments in this thread? I don't think so. Pretty much everyone seems to agree that you had a bad attitude.
That being the case, would you not have a look at it from everyone else's point of view to see if you can work out where everyone is coming from? Or are you happy to continue with the idea that you, as a single person, must be right and everyone else must be wrong?
Just a thought!
Apple Hammer
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@Delshay,
Have you found even a single person in support of your arguments in this thread? I don't think so. Pretty much everyone seems to agree that you had a bad attitude.
That being the case, would you not have a look at it from everyone else's point of view to see if you can work out where everyone is coming from? Or are you happy to continue with the idea that you, as a single person, must be right and everyone else must be wrong?
Just a thought!
Apple Hammer
He suffers from USI (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Unwarrented_self_importance), there is no cure sadly.
Given his last two posts (which I'm still chuckling over), I have to ask, who in their right mind would, upon seeing such outbursts even consider going to him on a professional basis?
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Hmm is it worth it though?
Well, it depends I suppose. It's certainly not something that would be fruitful, in terms of earning any real money from it, but to satisfy personal interest... yeah it could be worth having a look at. Purely from a hobbyist point of view really.
I support the next generation hardware and I'm also interested in the modern clones (Natami, minimig etc) but I still hold an interest for my classic hardware as well :)
Apple Hammer
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He suffers from USI (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Unwarrented_self_importance), there is no cure sadly.
Given his last two posts (which I'm still chuckling over), I have to ask, who in their right mind would, upon seeing such outbursts even consider going to him on a professional basis?
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I think one of the earlier posters had you pegged when they commented about your attitude being not unlike a 10 year old.
Also, screenshotted :p
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I think one of the earlier posters had you pegged when they commented about your attitude being not unlike a 10 year old.
Also, screenshotted :p
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@the_leander
Better off ignoring him and leaving him to it now, I think. He's clearly not going to listen to anyone's advice, and this thread has already been ruined now anyway. It'll probably end up locked, which is a shame for the thread starter!
Apple Hammer
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which is a shame for the thread starter!
Agreed, it was an interesting idea.
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would you like a screenshot of my dick to drool over you cock sucker.
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(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8947/theword.png)
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Guys please stop it, this is not adult behaviour.
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Reminds me of:
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Guys please stop it, this is not adult behaviour.
someone in this thread call me a TWAT in this thread anybody who agreed with that comment gets insulted direct by me.
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Way to prove Alexh's point perfectly.
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Reminds me of:
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
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Be the better man and let it go.
I do realise that personal insults can be painfull, I fully understand it, my guess is a lot of us have been the target for personal insults online. But rise above it sir.
I see no reason to ban you.
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Way to prove Alexh's point perfectly.
yeah if he can get away with it so can i...now go back to your mens porn mags and have a wank.
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He started it!
Ah, I do believe your ride has arrived:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/Ambulance2.jpg)
You might also wish to fill this in:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/butthurtform.jpg)
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Ah, I do believe your ride has arrived:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/Ambulance2.jpg)
You might also wish to fill this in:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/butthurtform.jpg)
i hear your mum is a good shag so the dogs say my advice to you is to keep her indoors
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Did I hear you right, did I hear you sayin'
That you're gonna troll amiga messageboards without plannin'?
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FFS, grow up people.
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Who would have thought that a thread about upgrading a 10+ year old CPU card could go downhill so fast?