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Title: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Gulliver on March 25, 2010, 06:18:13 AM
The thing is that I use to play the Ghostbusters game by Activision on the C64 and I used to love it, and I exepcted to find it on the Amiga, with enhanced graphics and sound.
The problem is that I cant find it, did it ever existed?
Please dont confuse yourself with Ghostbusters II or The Real Ghostbusters games, I am only looking for the original first version of Ghostbusters for the Amiga, if there was one.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on March 25, 2010, 07:19:50 AM
I remember the real ghostbusters and Ghostbuster II, maybe they didn't do Ghostbusters I.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: zipper on March 25, 2010, 07:48:18 AM
Probably not, at least didn't find it in 3 big games databases.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Lando on March 25, 2010, 08:03:19 AM
It didn't come out on the Amiga.  I used to play it on my Atari 800XL.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Gulliver on March 25, 2010, 08:21:22 AM
It is a pitty,  it was a very good game. Well, I will just have to keep on playing the C64 version with a C64 emulator on my Amiga :(
It should have been so much better on the Amiga as native...
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Gulliver on March 25, 2010, 08:36:26 AM
I just found the PC remake with the kind of graphic quality I expected on the Amiga
http://www.classic-retro-games.com/GhostBusters_193.html
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Cammy on March 25, 2010, 11:16:48 PM
You can play the best looking version of Ghostbusters on your Amiga if it's AGA and has a 030 or faster CPU. You just need to install AmiMasterGear from here - http://kung-foo.dhs.org/zener/AmiEmulatorsWeb/index.htm
And download the Ghostbusters Sega Master System ROM! The game was enhanced for the Sega and features nicer graphics than the C64 original and maybe a couple of other improvements too. This is how I've been playing this awesome game on the Amiga for years, and although it might not feel exactly the same as the C64 version, it's definitely just as good or better. And AmiMasterGear runs much faster than any C64 emulator on the Amiga, so more people will have a chance to try it (it runs on an A1200 or CD32 with Fast RAM too, if you have one, just a little slow).
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on March 25, 2010, 11:19:55 PM
AGA only? Drats, those emulators don't work with a graphics card  :(
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: tone007 on March 25, 2010, 11:23:22 PM
It might be a good thing they didn't make an Amiga version, occasionally the Amiga version of a C64 game was kind of a disappointment.  I'm looking at you, Feud.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: abbub on March 26, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
Quote from: tone007;549698
It might be a good thing they didn't make an Amiga version, occasionally the Amiga version of a C64 game was kind of a disappointment.  I'm looking at you, Feud.


I'm looking at you, Airborne Ranger!
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on March 26, 2010, 12:49:19 AM
I'm looking at you Donkey Kong!
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Gulliver on March 26, 2010, 12:53:11 AM
Quote from: Cammy;549696
You can play the best looking version of Ghostbusters on your Amiga if it's AGA and has a 030 or faster CPU. You just need to install AmiMasterGear from here - http://kung-foo.dhs.org/zener/AmiEmulatorsWeb/index.htm
And download the Ghostbusters Sega Master System ROM! The game was enhanced for the Sega and features nicer graphics than the C64 original and maybe a couple of other improvements too. This is how I've been playing this awesome game on the Amiga for years, and although it might not feel exactly the same as the C64 version, it's definitely just as good or better. And AmiMasterGear runs much faster than any C64 emulator on the Amiga, so more people will have a chance to try it (it runs on an A1200 or CD32 with Fast RAM too, if you have one, just a little slow).


Thanks Cammy, I will give it a try. Its surely sounds better than the C64 version. :)
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Tension on March 26, 2010, 01:27:16 AM
Quote from: Cammy;549696
You can play the best looking version of Ghostbusters on your Amiga if it's AGA and has a 030 or faster CPU. You just need to install AmiMasterGear from here - http://kung-foo.dhs.org/zener/AmiEmulatorsWeb/index.htm
And download the Ghostbusters Sega Master System ROM! The game was enhanced for the Sega and features nicer graphics than the C64 original and maybe a couple of other improvements too. This is how I've been playing this awesome game on the Amiga for years, and although it might not feel exactly the same as the C64 version, it's definitely just as good or better. And AmiMasterGear runs much faster than any C64 emulator on the Amiga, so more people will have a chance to try it (it runs on an A1200 or CD32 with Fast RAM too, if you have one, just a little slow).



When I read this post I spat out my tea all over my monitor and simultaneously shat myself.  Surely you're not advocating piracy?  Piracy makes me sick.  It funds terrorism.  It kills kids.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on March 26, 2010, 01:48:56 AM
Quote from: Tension;549716
When I read this post I spat out my tea all over my monitor and simultaneously shat myself.  Surely you're not advocating piracy?  Piracy makes me sick.  It funds terrorism.  It kills kids.

ROTFLMAO! This spitting of the tea and of the shatting. The terrorism and kids thing... now that's just awful. I'm going to give up using pirated software altogether now.

Come to think of it, since the original authors never received a dime from all the second hand software I bought and continue to purchase - what's the difference? I'm still funding terrorism and killing kids! AArrgghh... guess it just doesn't make sense to use ANY software for ANY computer unless I buy direct and for current projects only!  :lol:
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: mdv2000 on March 26, 2010, 02:00:13 AM
Only one thing... isn't piracy of games the distribution of them without paying for them?  How does that "FUND" terrorism? LOL!  Or maybe the the Live-Porn-Chat/Won-Free-Wii/Find-Your-Long-Lost-Grand-Pa links on most pirate sites actually get clicked?
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on March 26, 2010, 02:09:42 AM
I'm pretty sure my tax dollars have funded terrorism and child killing at some point. /ponder/

All a matter of perspective, isn't it?
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: amigakid on March 26, 2010, 02:18:47 AM
That download of the PC version remake is actually pretty good.  I also Downloaded the GODS one, wow just like the trusty Miggy version (used to have but my disks went bad so yes i did have the originals)
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Drummerboy on March 26, 2010, 03:02:40 AM
Ghostbusters for Amiga, was never realeased, unless it has been ported to Amiga by any user, but for now its unknow.

Hmmm, i tryed the Amimaster Gear and by some unknow reason the Amiga Crash, and having all the Request Libs for run

I dont know what happen
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Lando on March 26, 2010, 04:32:07 AM
Quote from: abbub;549711
I'm looking at you, Airborne Ranger!


I'm looking at you, Powerdrift!
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: scuzzb494 on March 26, 2010, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Gulliver;549598
The thing is that I use to play the Ghostbusters game by Activision on the C64 and I used to love it, and I exepcted to find it on the Amiga, with enhanced graphics and sound.
The problem is that I cant find it, did it ever existed?
Please dont confuse yourself with Ghostbusters II or The Real Ghostbusters games, I am only looking for the original first version of Ghostbusters for the Amiga, if there was one.


Why would a 1984 game be released on the Amiga... Think about it. I know the platform is old but not that old... And in those days they didn`t release earlier versions later.. Well not very often. By the time the Amiga hit the streets we were up to Ghostbuster II....

And these were the platforms of the day...

Amstrad CPC, Apple II/+, Atari 800/2600/XL/XE, C64, NES, Sega Master System, ZX Spectrum (16/48K)

I have all those computers and probably the versions of Ghostbusters... except possibly the game version for the Apple. You can see all the computers on my website.

' Where do these stairs go.... They go up '..... ' Got a date with a ghost ' Classic.

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: rkauer on March 26, 2010, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: Drummerboy;549727
Ghostbusters for Amiga, was never realeased, unless it has been ported to Amiga by any user, but for now its unknow

 Like this one? (http://hol.abime.net/1205) :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: doble07 on March 26, 2010, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: Drummerboy;549727
Ghostbusters for Amiga, was never realeased, unless it has been ported to Amiga by any user, but for now its unknow.

Hmmm, i tryed the Amimaster Gear and by some unknow reason the Amiga Crash, and having all the Request Libs for run

I dont know what happen


Hi!

AmiMasterGear keyFile protection fails with Scalos, try this updated/fixed and unofficial-released version:

http://kung-foo.dhs.org/zener/amiga/stuff/35rumsx/amimastergear0_9.lha

Good Luck!

Juan
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on March 26, 2010, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: scuzzb494;549811
Why would a 1984 game be released on the Amiga... Think about it.


We have and here's why: oft times the translations of certain games were not perfect. That and there were some great concepts that were stunted due to them being on a lesser than platform. Literally growing up with computers, the evolution of them has been a goofy thing. We were promised better graphics and gaming, but a lot of the time - those concepts did not come to fruition. We just ended up with different games and different graphics. When the technology finally came about that could actually produce kick ass translations of our favorite games, we were mostly screwed. They simply never happened. That's enough to piss off the Pope I tell 'ya!   lol

And it's why people like me have basements full of real arcade games  ;)
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: scuzzb494 on March 27, 2010, 12:05:41 AM
Quote from: save2600;549830
We have and here's why: oft times the translations of certain games were not perfect. That and there were some great concepts that were stunted due to them being on a lesser than platform. Literally growing up with computers, the evolution of them has been a goofy thing. We were promised better graphics and gaming, but a lot of the time - those concepts did not come to fruition. We just ended up with different games and different graphics. When the technology finally came about that could actually produce kick ass translations of our favorite games, we were mostly screwed. They simply never happened. That's enough to piss off the Pope I tell 'ya!   lol

And it's why people like me have basements full of real arcade games  ;)


Not sure I understood that.. but what I was saying is that the original 1984 Activision game could not have been released for the Amiga cus the Amiga itself had not been released. The game generally was on datasette/cassette not on floppy. If the game was revamped it was not the original release.... Remember I'm pure retro here.

Bit like releasing Atari classic arcade games on CD for the PS1... Just not the same thing. And having played Manic Miner on the Spectrum it just wasn`t the same on the A500 cus the hardware was completely different.... Keys I mean. I never could play the game on anything other than a Spectrum... Like I wouldn`t play River Raid on anything other than an Atari. Hardware is everything... Thats also why I would never use an emulator and I have a house full of computer games from my very first ZX81 games..... including all the original hardware still working. For me there is no point downloading a classic game to play on a newer platform... Bit like food without taste. Specially when you have been challenged with a Spectrum keyboard.

Saying that I am currently playing Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 and loving it. I even have an XBOX Elite but I still enjoy my older computers and consoles.

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on March 27, 2010, 12:26:51 AM
Quote from: scuzzb494;549836
Not sure I understood that.. but what I was saying is that the original 1984 Activision game could not have been released for the Amiga cus the Amiga itself had not been released. The game generally was on datasette/cassette not on floppy.

I never saw Ghostbusters on cassette for any system. Here in the States, is was either on floppy or cartridge.

What I am getting at is the fact that arcade games were always first. Years later, they were translated to consoles or computers. You never saw or would see a game in the arcade released concurrently as a home system, so your argument about being retro... I don't fully follow. Just because Ghostbusters (never an arcade game) was released on a certain system in '84 or whenever does not mean it shouldn't have been ported to more modern systems years later. That's silly. We'd have no classic gaming to play on any system if that was the case.

Pinball Construction Set was slated for release on the Amiga - even saw ads for it. Yet it was never released. That was pure and utter BS. People like me really wanted to experience a superior version of that title on our Amiga's. Think of what they could have done with a nicer version of that particular game. And no, the "pinball construction set" type game we saw several years later on the Amiga, in no way, compares to what the 8-bits had.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on March 27, 2010, 12:35:03 AM
Mac classic ports got enhanced graphics, must be because they used a dedicated team (if and when they ported something).
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Drummerboy on March 27, 2010, 03:14:09 AM
Thanks!.. Juan,

Lo voy a Probar!

Saludos!
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Drummerboy on March 27, 2010, 03:21:30 AM
@Rkauer

Ok, thats Real Ghostbusters, not Ghostbusters, like the PIC.

Regards
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Cammy on March 27, 2010, 05:58:42 AM
The original Ghostbusters game was released for the Sega Master System in 1987, so there's no reason why they couldn't have ported it to the Amiga around that stage too. The Ghostbusters franchise was still popular enough to have sold the game on the Amiga if it had been released.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Cammy on March 27, 2010, 07:08:54 AM
Ghostbusters was also released for the Atari 2600 in 1992 (although it had been completed long before then). I'm not sure if there are any good Atari 2600 emulators for the Amiga, I've never really looked.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Belial6 on March 27, 2010, 07:39:55 AM
Quote from: rkauer;549828
Like this one? (http://hol.abime.net/1205) :rolleyes:


If you look at the title, it says "The Real Ghost Busters".  That means the title was released to capitalize on the cartoon "The Real Ghost Busters" (http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=71824), not the movie.  If you look at the link you provided, it actually has a copyright notice for Columbia Pictures, Television for 1986.  1986 is the year that "The Real Ghost Busters" first aired on ABC.

It appears that the addition of "The Real" was put in was due to another cartoon that first aired the same month on CBS called "Ghost Busters" (http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=77055).  This cartoon apparently had legitimate claim to the Ghost Busters name, as it was a revamp of a 1975 cartoon called "Ghost Busters" (http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=77898)

So the mystery of why a Ghost Busters game would be made for the Amiga is solved.  This is not the C64 version ported to the Amiga.  It is a different version that was based on the cartoon.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: scuzzb494 on March 27, 2010, 08:38:23 AM
Quote from: Cammy;549874
The original Ghostbusters game was released for the Sega Master System in 1987, so there's no reason why they couldn't have ported it to the Amiga around that stage too. The Ghostbusters franchise was still popular enough to have sold the game on the Amiga if it had been released.


My goodness I had played the game to death by 1987... Check your history. The game was released in 1984 which is probably when I got it first. Came out on Datasette/Cassette. Only the later version Ghostbusters II came out on Amiga... And The Real Ghostbusters was something to do with those cartoon versions that even appear on the video of Ghostbusters II the movie.

This is Ghostbuster II box ...

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/games/a302_game01.jpg

Here is a quote for you... 12th March 1985

[ quote ]

What better way to guarantee a successful software package than to wait until the film, book and T-shirt have all 'gone down a storm', before wading in with your own product while the market's still eager. When Ghostbusters - the movie - began its successful sweep of this country, Activision launched a version of the eponymous computer game for the CBM 64. Now, after the 'Ghostbusting' thrill has died down a bit, the Spectrum version of the game has appeared - but, as Ross Holman and Dave Nicholls are unhappy to report, it just hasn't got the panache of the CBM version. Messrs Holman and Nicholls draw their paranormal conclusions ...

[ end quote ]

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jg27paw4/yr12/yr12_36.htm

And confirmation of release date...

http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/the-making-ghostbusters

It could easily have been a shooter or platformer, so how did this movie licence become a business sim? We look back at 1984’s licensed monster hit Ghostbusters and talk to designer David Crane…

Format: Commodore 64
Publisher: Activision
Release Date: 1984


“A typical C64 game took nine months from start to finish,” laughs David Crane, the game’s designer. “Ghostbusters took six weeks!” Crane is one of the most prolific developers of the early videogame era. Creating titles such as Little Computer People and Pitfall made him Activision’s star programmer – an intelligent and creative hit-maker whose most left-field ideas still struck gold. “I had just finished Pitfall II when we decided that the Commodore 64 had sold enough units to be a good target for third party games,” says Crane. “Tom Lopez at Activision came to me with the idea of doing a game around the Ghostbusters movie. Tom had heard of the project and, predicting its success, he had negotiated a licence from the studio. It’s common for videogame companies to look  at scripts for films in development and try to decide if they would make a good game. In this case, Tom thought it would be big, but he first brought the idea to the design team to see what we might do with it.”


scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Cammy on March 27, 2010, 08:57:43 AM
I think you misunderstood what I meant. I wasn't implying that the Sega Master System version was the first, and no other version came out before 1987, I meant that the Sega version came out in 1987, and the Sega Master System came out in 1986. It's the same game as the Commodore 64 version, but with better graphics and an extra level added. So by this logic, it would have made sense that if an Amiga version had come out, even though it may have been years after the original C64 version, it could have still sold well, and I'm sure it would.

I'm sorry you went to so much effort to prove something we already knew and took for granted. No one is arguing that the 1984 C64 version wasn't first.

When I said "original" I just meant it was based on the original Ghostbusters game, not Ghostbusters 2 or The Real Ghostbusters.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: save2600 on March 27, 2010, 05:28:28 PM
Quote from: Cammy;549879
Ghostbusters was also released for the Atari 2600 in 1992 (although it had been completed long before then). I'm not sure if there are any good Atari 2600 emulators for the Amiga, I've never really looked.

Cammy, are you saying you didn't see any version of 2600 Ghostbusters (I or II) for sale in stores until '92? That would have been pretty cool seeing 'em out in the wild like that so late. The VCS was pretty much retired from stores by then here in the States, 'cept for a smattering of 7800 titles or maybe Ms. Pac-Man leftovers from the 2600 Jr.

2600 Ghostbusters by Activision first debuted (actually released for sale) here in '85. It was one of the first games I bought in the late 80's when I resurrected my Atari. The game was so popular, that Activision re-released it with a boring blue and white text label around '88-'89.

2600 Ghostbusters II (which was never released in the States) by Salu came out in 1990. This was only a PAL only release, so these mostly wound up in Britain, Australia and Germany.
Title: Re: Ghostbusters I by Activision for Amiga?
Post by: Cammy on March 27, 2010, 08:54:54 PM
Sorry I mixed up with Ghostbusters 2 for Atari 2600, but I thought it wasn't released in Europe and Australia until 1992.