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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: palemoon on March 21, 2010, 05:22:38 PM
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I am parting with my MAC Mini and a fully registered MorphOS 2.4. The MAC Mini specs are:
rare 1.5ghz G4 CPU
1gb memory
80gb hard drive
installed Bluetooth
Installed Wireless
Superdrive (can burn CDs and DVDs)
MAC Mini OS X Tiger restore discs
MAC Mighty Mouse
MAC keyboard
Fully registered MorphOS included. This includes the disc and key.
I have over $700 invested.
$500 obo
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Not a bad price, but why is Mac capitalized in every instance?
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Not a bad price, but why is Mac capitalized in every instance?
Sorry, that's just how I've always typed it. I've been typing it that way for years. :laughing:
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Sorry, that's just how I've always typed it. I've been typing it that way for years. :laughing:
So now that MorphOS runs on Mac min the previously abundant G4 Mac Mini has now become "rare". (check Ebay and CL in the USA)
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How the hell you manage to spend $700 on a G4? This a gold mac?
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How the hell you manage to spend $700 on a G4? This a gold mac?
If you user install apple internal Bluetooth Wireless and superdrive you approach amiga prices...(wait I take that back... quintuplie the price of everything on this post to reach amiga prices)
I'd be happy with:
USB Wirnelss N $20
USB BLuetooth $15
USB exernal DVDRW $59
$200 (250 max) Mac Mini G4
Morphos $150
$444 total. You can double or triple the costs of the apple parts in relation to the parts I listed.
$600 if you take into consideratin apple's expensive parts. A bit more depending on what you paid for the G4 in the first place...
But this stuff ain't rare..
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@ Crom00
It's the 1.5GHz variant with double the VRAM. "Rare" might be too strong, but it's definitely less common. ~$300 for the Mac, ~$200 for MorphOS, plus a "free" Mighty Mouse. I think it's a fair price.
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Guy wants 500 bucks or what ever he can get. The MOS license is like what, 200 bucks? It's a fair sale, especially if you can get the guy to bump a 100 bucks off the price, if somebody wants to pay 500 for it, cool. Thats how it works.
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Oooohhh didn't know the Morphos license was $200.
Mac hardware can get costly. Try replacing a powerbook screen sometime.
This system would do well on ebay with some nice shots. Screen shots of bot the cool morphos and any classic Amiga software running on this.
If I have been out of the scene and saw an Ebay acution like that I'd be tempted some.
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Oooohhh didn't know the Morphos license was $200.
Mac hardware can get costly. Try replacing a powerbook screen sometime.
if you know of somebody selling a screen for a 12" 867MHz powerbook let me know.
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also, 150 euros for MOS license. (203.04 US dollars as of, well, right now when I posted this)
http://www.morphos-team.net/faq.html
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So now that MorphOS runs on Mac min the previously abundant G4 Mac Mini has now become "rare". (check Ebay and CL in the USA)
The mini is not rare, but the 1.5ghz CPU more or less is.
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Yes, it is not so rare.
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How the hell you manage to spend $700 on a G4? This a gold mac?
Easy...
$400 for the mini
$220 for the MorphOS license
$80 for the mighty mouse
About $50 for the OS X Tiger restore discs.
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@ Crom00
It's the 1.5GHz variant with double the VRAM. "Rare" might be too strong, but it's definitely less common. ~$300 for the Mac, ~$200 for MorphOS, plus a "free" Mighty Mouse. I think it's a fair price.
Ok, so "less common" then. :)
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Just to clarify, I did say $500 obo (or best offer). If I get $500 I will throw in FREE shipping. Also, I found my Mac keyboard so that is now included as well.
I'm not a big fan of Ebay, but it may end up there if nobody here wants it.
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Just to clarify, I did say $500 obo (or best offer). If I get $500 I will throw in FREE shipping. Also, I found my Mac keyboard so that is now included as well.
I'm not a big fan of Ebay, but it may end up there if nobody here wants it.
I'm tempted but will have to pass.
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I'm tempted but will have to pass.
You should get it.
The most "silent upgrade" 1.5 models come with 64mb VRAM where as the 1.42 only provides 32.
Heck, I paid $250 just for MOS with the USD being worth less at the time I assume.
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It's true - the 1.5 GHz ones with 64 megs of VRAM are less common (or at least less commonly sold). I have an even rarer one - it's a 1.5 GHz mini running at 1.66 GHz. But I plan to keep it. It was the first computer I bought new since I got my Sinclair QL when I was 13...
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Have you tried to post it at http://www.morphzone.org or http://www.amibay.com
More MorphOS users at morphzone I'd guess, and more trade going on at AmiBay. :)
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Have you tried to post it at http://www.morphzone.org or http://www.amibay.com
More MorphOS users at morphzone I'd guess, and more trade going on at AmiBay. :)
Thanks for the info. It is posted on MorphZone. Still working on posting it on AmiBay.
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I'm sitting on two Mac Mini's (1.5 & 1.25) that I acquired for my kids to use way back when. The kids have grown and moved on to laptops for school. I've watched the eBay market on the Mini's and they seemed to move pretty well. I think the recovery cost of MorphOS is giving your system a bit of a price shock to buyers. I've seen folks here basically give the hardware away to get the cost of the MorphOS registration fee back, not that I'm suggesting you do that but that is what your faced with on any price reduction you apply.
The Dawg
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Price drop....
$400 plus FREE shipping.
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Price drop....
$400 plus FREE shipping.
Hey pale, there was a Mini configured very much like yours that just sold on eBay for $450 using the buy it now option. So, your asking price is certainly in the park for those interested in an alternative OS.
Mac Mini G4 with registered MorphOS (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320506662580&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
The Dawg
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Hey pale, there was a Mini configured very much like yours that just sold on eBay for $450 using the buy it now option. So, your asking price is certainly in the park for those interested in an alternative OS.
The Dawg
The item description also seems remarkably similar... ;)
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The item description also seems remarkably similar... ;)
Yeah that was my listing, but the guy backed out on me. I haven't relisted it on Ebay yet, and probably won't.
So, it is still available. :)
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I'll take $300 now. Still includes FREE shipping! So, basically I am giving away MorphOS. I acccept Paypal.
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is that free international shipping or just in the us of a ?
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is that free international shipping or just in the us of a ?
For the UK? Yes, still free.
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For $300, I'll take it Ed! Payment sent!
@JJ, we had been working out the details for a couple of days, but this last incentive was too good to pass up :)
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arrrrghhhhhhhhhh
dame you save2600 :)
Oh well will save the long discussion with the missus about how I can afford this when we getting married in June :)
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Dame me? No thanks, one GF is enough :lol:
I didn't have to sell her too hard (we don't have that kind of relationship), but I did off handedly mention that the little guy is really like 2 or 3 computers in one, including the familiar OSX environment. lol
But yeah, no kidding. I'm out of work too and pulling this off was a trick shot. Will have to sell a few toys to make up for it. Money just isn't as easy to come by anymore. I know a lot of people that are hurting worse than me though, so can't complain too much. Yet.
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For $300, I'll take it Ed! Payment sent!
@JJ, we had been working out the details for a couple of days, but this last incentive was too good to pass up :)
For what you are getting, I mean with the Mighty Mouse, Mac keyboard, Tiger restore disc(s), registered MorphOS license keyfile, installed Bluetooth & Wireless cards, installed 1gb RAM, SuperDrive DVDRW optical drive and the "hard-to-find" 1.5GHz G4 & 64mb VRAM model of the MacMini, you got all of that at a really low price considering that just the MorphOS license fee currently still costs more than $200. I wish I could have found my 1.5GHz MacMini for less than $100 with free shipping plus a free Mac keyboard and Mighty Mouse! That was an absolute STEAL! If I had known about it, I would have bought it and resold it for the $500 he was asking for it in the first place. MorphOS2.4 is fantastic running on the MacMini with any G4, but is even better with the 1.5GHz G4 and 64mb of VRAM. One or two guys have even overclocked the 1.5GHz G4s up to 1.83GHz and reported that it remains stable and with an added heatsink still runs cool unless you push the CPU up close to 100% load.
Enjoy your new toy save2600. If you have not used MorphOS already I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the performance and compatibility of MorphOS2.4.
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I'll take $300 now. Still includes FREE shipping! So, basically I am giving away MorphOS. I acccept Paypal.
Now that was a great price!
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Enjoy your new toy save2600. If you have not used MorphOS already I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the performance and compatibility of MorphOS2.4.
Oh yeah, I've used MorphOS before... remember, I had an Efika for a very short while. lol Unfortunately, I didn't get very far with the MorphOS experience because that little Efika was just too wimpy. It'll be nice to be able to compare the two though. I'm expecting the G4 is going to meet or exceed my expectations and yes, I do have grand delusions of using an Amiga-like OS as my "main" system :-)
Photo editing, web surfing, FTP'ing, E-mailing, music storing, some light word processing and spreadsheeting, scanning and printing out to my modern Canon Pixma is ALL I ask. If I can setup the Mini/MorphOS combo to act as a wireless internet hub for other computers around the house, I'll be golden :-)
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If I can setup the Mini/MorphOS combo to act as a wireless internet hub for other computers around the house, I'll be golden :-)
Poor computer, being made to do the work that a $10 device on craigslist can do...
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For $300, I'll take it Ed! Payment sent!
@JJ, we had been working out the details for a couple of days, but this last incentive was too good to pass up :)
Thats a great deal for you! You'll like MorphOS on it much more than the efika! I guess 128mb vram is nice, but You hit that 128mb ram and 1.1 usb wall pretty quickly with efika.
For the price, I would have strongly considered it! The 1.5 is the fastest (amiga like) hardware you can get...
Not so much for the CPU speed but for the more VRAM. Running mplayer I run out of Vram and get strange artifacts. Turning off the MUI desktop enhancements really helps. You may want to do that anyway.
Also there are loads of youtube videos with os4.0 running on the 1.5 Mini...
Maybe some day ... good purchase!
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Sold :)
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Poor computer, being made to do the work that a $10 device on craigslist can do...
LOL! Yeah, never had to purchase a Linksys or otherwise wireless hub since I use Mac's and they all have that capability built in :)
Why computers (especially Mac's) don't yet have cable or DSL modems built in is kind of befuddling though. When it comes to modern computing, I abhor having a desk full of extra doo-dads that require their own power supplies. :mad:
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LOL! Yeah, never had to purchase a Linksys or otherwise wireless hub since I use Mac's and they all have that capability built in :)
Why computers (especially Mac's) don't yet have cable or DSL modems built in is kind of befuddling though. When it comes to modern computing, I abhor having a desk full of extra doo-dads that require their own power supplies. :mad:
doo-dads with wall warts...
yep
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LOL! Yeah, never had to purchase a Linksys or otherwise wireless hub since I use Mac's and they all have that capability built in :)
All computers have that capability built in, it's just nice to have a dedicated, silent, low-power, cheap device do that job 24/7 saving wear and tear on more valuable equipment.
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Sorry for the fancy speak bbond007! :lol:
(I say "yep" too whenever I hear people talking about Wal-Mart or today in fact, when I heard the President say: "Tom Middlesex is in 'da house"! Gotta love the bastardization of our language.
@Tone007: I never leave my computers plugged in and turned on 24/7. Horrible practice IMO. 1/2 the day though, I do leave my main system running in and out of sleep as I need it. BTW: I was unaware that PC's now come standard with wireless cards and can be used to setup a wireless LAN scenario. Must be a relatively new standard as the last time I looked at a PC (few years ago), they weren't yet included.
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Sorry for the fancy speak bbond007! :lol:
(I say "yep" too whenever I hear people talking about Wal-Mart or today in fact, when I heard the President say: "Tom Middlesex is in 'da house"! Gotta love the bastardization of our language.
@Tone007: I never leave my computers plugged in and turned on 24/7. Horrible practice IMO. 1/2 the day though, I do leave my main system running in and out of sleep as I need it. BTW: I was unaware that PC's now come standard with wireless cards and can be used to setup a wireless LAN scenario. Must be a relatively new standard as the last time I looked at a PC (few years ago), they weren't yet included.
save2600,
I was more talking about every different device needing a different AC/Adapter (aka "Wall Wart"). Different sized plug, different voltage, polarity, etc... Annoying.
Also, don't expect the Minig4 with MorphOS to get wireless or bluetooth... You'll have to be tethered via the rj45.
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save2600,
I was more talking about every different device needing a different AC/Adapter (aka "Wall Wart"). Different sized plug, different voltage, polarity, etc... Annoying.
Also, don't expect the Minig4 with MorphOS to get wireless or bluetooth... You'll have to be tethered via the rj45.
Ahh... lol Gotcha. Well hopefully, MorphOS will continue to mature and take better advantage of some of this hardware as time goes on. One of the reasons I hesitated making this purchase was because of the new X1000 machine coming out. I wonder how the popularity of a modern AmigaOS would affect development at this stage. Perhaps they're different enough in their marketing and targets to be safe for a while.
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Ahh... lol Gotcha. Well hopefully, MorphOS will continue to mature and take better advantage of some of this hardware as time goes on. One of the reasons I hesitated making this purchase was because of the new X1000 machine coming out. I wonder how the popularity of a modern AmigaOS would affect development at this stage. Perhaps they're different enough in their marketing and targets to be safe for a while.
Morphos HD access on the mini requires way less cpu overhead than the efika (probably uses DMA or something), so even that is a benefit.
I doubt the x1000 will make any difference to Morphos. I think its price tag is going to be too high for major acceptance. Also, that GPU thing they are pushing - Nobody can explain to me what its good or useful for.
Now if they built a PPC MB with big FPGA for OCS/AGA/Paula emulation... that would be worth the extra bucks to me..
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But you are supposed to leave the DSL modem plugged and powered 24/7 ,otherwise it must renegotiate or something.The DSL modem here came with a sticker stating be sure to leave it on for at least 10 dyas continuously to reach maximum speed.I have notice a "learning curve " in that connection speed was first reported as just over 1Mb but after a few days was 1.5,and seems to be leveling off just under 1.8Mb (which is a far cry from the 48kb of dial-up)An short jumper to the wireless router and access is available house (and yard)-wide.Except now there are TWO wal-warts and devices on 24/7.Then there is the wal-wart for the answering machine,the HDTV,and all the other things that can not be turned off without needing reprogramming.It makes conserving electricity difficult.
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But you are supposed to leave the DSL modem plugged and powered 24/7 ,otherwise it must renegotiate or something.The DSL modem here came with a sticker stating be sure to leave it on for at least 10 dyas continuously to reach maximum speed.I have notice a "learning curve " in that connection speed was first reported as just over 1Mb but after a few days was 1.5,and seems to be leveling off just under 1.8Mb (which is a far cry from the 48kb of dial-up)An short jumper to the wireless router and access is available house (and yard)-wide.Except now there are TWO wal-warts and devices on 24/7.Then there is the wal-wart for the answering machine,the HDTV,and all the other things that can not be turned off without needing reprogramming.It makes conserving electricity difficult.
While I never leave my computers on 24/7, I will admit I do usually keep the cable modem going. It takes such little power, BUT... I have not noticed any problems in turning it off (fully off, unplugged even) overnight, which I probably do once or twice a week. In fact, cable here sucks so bad, that I sometimes have to reset my modem (yes, it re-negotiates) in order to get it back going again. A minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things, just go into System Preferences and renew your DHCP lease and the internet pops back up within seconds.
Since I don't have a router, I have to reset my modem every time I hook a different computer to it. That's going to be the case with this Mac-Mini and was the case when I had my A2500 in the same room. Now that's a major pain. I see out in stores now, you can't even purchase a wired router any more. And the last time I went to our local Rat Shack, the knob salesman told me that a router and the switcher were the same thing(they apparently didn't stock routers). I tried to tell him the difference, especially when using OUR cable provider (which he was fully aware of to), but I took it home anyway since I asked about their return policy. Sure as shit, it didn't work - surprise.
Guess I should just buy a router online and be done with it. :lol:
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I bought a 3Com 8-port 10/100M dualspeed switch for $3 or 6 at the nearby Goodwill.
You can only find bargains if you look.The wireless router came from Wal-Mart or Radio Shack 6 years ago for $40 ?,I don't remember.
But my DSl will work just by moving the ethernet cable from one computer to another.Perhaps cable modems work differently.Cable doesn't come up my road and even the newspaper carrier said it was too far from his other customers.We can't all live downtown,it would be crowded.
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Come to think of it I have picked up wired router at Goodwill for less than $10 (of course the local store happens to be 45 minutes away.....
There are plenty of new or used wired or wireless goodies on ebay and elsewhere.
Sales clerks often don't know what makes a hub,switch, or router.
I remember the clerk who insisted a friend buy the $50 pc-only modem because the Amiga 1200rs modem I had just bought for $10 at the same store wouldn't work on a PC.(The 1200RS has a siamese connector and came with both Amiga and PC drivers)
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Been 14 days now... eagerly waiting for this to show up any day :)
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Machine never received and I wouldn't want it now if even 1/2 of what the seller has said is true. Several weeks went by and all I received was piss poor communication, broken promises and what I would consider to be lame excuses. Lots of red flags with this transaction. PayPal communication escalated to fraudulent claim now after I gave him a chance to refund on his own volition, which he promised he would - but failed again. Details aside, caveat emptor people!
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Got my money back from PayPal today :)
A day *after* his final day to communicate through them. Guy purposely made me wait for my money - just because. Thanks !
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Good to hear.