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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Astral on March 07, 2010, 07:35:04 AM

Title: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: Astral on March 07, 2010, 07:35:04 AM
Hi All - I've just got myself an Analogic/Wall St institute floppy disk drive for the CD32. It is a great little device!

With it I also got a cable that goes from the DB15 (VGA?) on the back of the unit to a SCART connection on the other end. Problem is, my 1084s has the standard 9-pin input. The other option is to use the A/V inputs the picture isn't that great.

My question is, does anyone know of a SCART to 1084s 9-pin adaptor that is available, or the pinouts to make my own cable from the DB15 to the 9-pin socket?
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: Tension on March 07, 2010, 10:49:28 PM
Sorry to disappoint but that's not a Video port.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: tasmanian guy on March 07, 2010, 10:51:12 PM
I've heard that particular port is for video (I could be wrong) but I'm pretty sure I read it here on the forums.
 
Quote from someone else on a different forum
 
Damn, no one bet.

Anyhow it is confirmed, it is an RGB socket and I am sure it WAS supposed to be a high-density 15-pin D-sub (VGA).

Analogic will sell you the cable with the unit for an extra £15 on top. Or you can make your own ;)

What is more fascinating is that these were designed and built by the same guy who created the BoXer and the Access, Mick Tinker for the Wall Street Institute and hence the name CD32fWSI.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: Tension on March 07, 2010, 11:03:19 PM
Quote from: tasmanian guy;546614
I've heard that particular port is for video (I could be wrong) but I'm pretty sure I read it here on the forums.
 
Quote from someone else on a different forum
 
Damn, no one bet.

Anyhow it is confirmed, it is an RGB socket and I am sure it WAS supposed to be a high-density 15-pin D-sub (VGA).

Analogic will sell you the cable with the unit for an extra £15 on top. Or you can make your own ;)

What is more fascinating is that these were designed and built by the same guy who created the BoXer and the Access, Mick Tinker for the Wall Street Institute and hence the name CD32fWSI.


Excellent!!  ;)
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: rkauer on March 08, 2010, 04:28:33 AM
If your CD32 is not an European unit (those have SCART plug), the unit will have a S-VHS port.

 most 1084S have the luma/chroma inputs on the back (separated, in two RCA sockets). That's just a matter of making your own S-VHS cable.

 Worst than true RGB, but miles better than composite.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: kickstart on March 08, 2010, 04:36:23 AM
European cd32 havent scart, just have composite video, svhs and the hi-quality rf.

You can make easily a clable from the wsi db15 rgb to 1084 db9, but wsi causes many bugs in some cd32 games, pad becomes monobutton, at least on my cd32 with wsi plug.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: smf on March 08, 2010, 07:10:28 AM
Please stop calling it svhs. it's s-video! :D
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: tasmanian guy on March 08, 2010, 07:54:49 AM
Quote from: smf;546649
Please stop calling it svhs. it's s-video! :D

I think you guys are missing the point of the thread, that the connection is for video or not, not whether the CD32 has scart, etc.
 
The cable is available from Analogic.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: kickstart on March 08, 2010, 08:36:13 AM
@smf

Yes, is separate video, name it svhs is a bad habit.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: tone007 on March 08, 2010, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: smf;546649
Please stop calling it svhs. it's s-video! :D

That always bugs me too.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: Jope on March 08, 2010, 12:51:29 PM
Wow, what a quality thread, you guys. ;-)

Is this perhaps the same floppy drive expansion the original poster has?
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=33303
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: tasmanian guy on March 08, 2010, 11:35:03 PM
Quote from: Jope;546672
Wow, what a quality thread, you guys. ;-)
 
Is this perhaps the same floppy drive expansion the original poster has?
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=33303

Yes it is, since up on top of the floppy drive it says ANALOGIC and that is the thread that I quoted from about the port being used for video and that Analogic can supply a cable for it.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: Tension on March 09, 2010, 12:42:59 AM
Quote from: kickstart;546657
@smf

Yes, is separate video, name it svhs is a bad habit.


I always thought it was related to the S-VHS standard of VCRs.  S-VHS had a higher resolution, but you needed a S-VHS port to utilize the better resolution.

Not sure though  :s
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: DyLucke on March 09, 2010, 01:14:29 AM
The WSI device makes some CD32 games not to boot on my CD32, it seems it
eats some RAM, so certain games like Super Stardust won't boot at all.

It's a pity. At the same time i've found the WSI won't make the CD32 a fully A1200
compatible device. Some floppy A1200 games won't work either.

This device is cetainly useful, and provides an average A1200 floppy compatibility,
but... IT SHOULD HAD A FARGING SWITCH TO TURN IT OFF.

However, is there any way to replace the RTC card into the WSI for some kind
of hand-made RAM-IDE card?

Cheers.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: kickstart on March 09, 2010, 01:21:16 AM
@tension

Many people called ir svhs for unknow reason (including me sometimes) but vhs and svhs videos have scart and scart have more quality than s-video.

@dylucke

On my cd32 super stardust boot but just work the directional buttons and red button on the pad.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: Tension on March 09, 2010, 02:41:41 AM
Quote from: kickstart;546764
@tension

Many people called ir svhs for unknow reason (including me sometimes) but vhs and svhs videos have scart and scart have more quality than s-video.


Most VCRs produce composite signals, even though they have the full scart connector, RGB pins are not used.

In that case, SVHS gives a better picture if used with a SVHS (S-video) cable.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: ID4 on March 09, 2010, 09:11:18 AM
Quote from: DyLucke;546763
The WSI device makes some CD32 games not to boot on my CD32, it seems it
eats some RAM, so certain games like Super Stardust won't boot at all.

It's a pity. At the same time i've found the WSI won't make the CD32 a fully A1200
compatible device. Some floppy A1200 games won't work either.

This device is cetainly useful, and provides an average A1200 floppy compatibility,
but... IT SHOULD HAD A FARGING SWITCH TO TURN IT OFF.

However, is there any way to replace the RTC card into the WSI for some kind
of hand-made RAM-IDE card?

Cheers.



Yeah, and when it is pluged don´t let the CD32 Pad to work as is, only two buttons works, so you can play many CD32 titiles when this device is plugged ... ANY FIX FOR THIS???

And yeah, if you refer to the DB15 Port, It´s used for video scart and I have the cable.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: alexh on March 09, 2010, 03:24:58 PM
Quote from: Tension;546613
Sorry to disappoint but that's not a Video port.
As I'm sure everyone has realised by now this IS an RGB video port. I'm pretty sure that the designed meant it to be a VGA connector but put the wrong component on his schematic (15-pin D vs 15-pin DSub)

Quote from: DyLucke;546763
is there any way to replace the RTC card into the WSI for some kind of hand-made RAM-IDE card?
Should be very possible. All it would would require is someone with a CD32WSi to debug the pinout of the 184-pin connector using a Multimeter and a bit of sense. Once that is done the schematics and logic for a 68000 to DRAM interface is very simple and can be done using even some of the smallest PLDs.

I don't think it could be commercialised because we've no idea how many of these devices were ever produced.
Title: Re: CD32 floppy drive to 1084S monitor
Post by: DyLucke on March 09, 2010, 07:09:38 PM
Wow... I hope somebody can manage to make some kind of scheme.

Some ram could be useful for these games thatjust don't boot.
But i don't know if adding an IDE interface would be too much there.