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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: RedWarrior on November 17, 2003, 11:16:26 PM

Title: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: RedWarrior on November 17, 2003, 11:16:26 PM
Ok- 120 meg Amiga drive attached to my xp machine... latest version of WinUAE... detected in bios, all good....

No icon on xp desktop, no icon on Workbench.

These legends of winuae being able to read Amiga drives...  pure myth?

Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: Karlos on November 17, 2003, 11:22:55 PM
Worked fine for me. I transferred all my data from my old amiga HD to a new one with WinUAE. I was running Win2K however, not sure if that makes a difference.

Are you using NTFS as your main file system under windows? IIRC, it only works if windows is running NTFS for some reason.

Anyway, in the configuration window for uae, under the drives section you should be able to add it there.
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: RedWarrior on November 17, 2003, 11:30:39 PM
I got nothing.


The drive is visible in the XP device manager, but that's all.  

What does IIRC mean? :-x
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: mantisspider on November 18, 2003, 12:05:14 AM
Hi mate,

this whole net speak confuses me too man.
IIRC means If I recall Correctly

it took me ages before i figured it out... ok i went to dictionary.com i admit it
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: adolescent on November 18, 2003, 12:07:36 AM
Worked fine here with my A1200 IDE drive.  What format is the drive, and what controller did it come from?  (ie. does it have a standard filesystem and RDB?)
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: RedWarrior on November 18, 2003, 12:13:43 AM
It's an Amiga formatted 124meg Seagate ST3144A... don't know what file-system...  wtf is and RDB IIRC?

XP is too busy keeping up appearances to allow an "unknown" drive on the desktop.

Computers.

I think I'm gonna scream.      :~(  

Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: adz on November 18, 2003, 12:16:13 AM
Dude, you can't see the Amiga drive from XP, all you can see is a drive under computer management. You mount the drive via WinUAE, there is a pull down menu under the hard drive tab, when you click it, you should see your drive.
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: CodeSmith on November 18, 2003, 12:22:53 AM
@RedWarrior:

Chill out dude!

The fact that you can see the drive in the device manager means XP can see it.  You can't see it on the desktop, because XP does not have an Amiga FFS (Fast File System) driver installed (has anyone written one of those?)

I can't help you with why WinUAE won't see the drive, it should be showing up on the emulated workbench.  I've only ever used hardfiles, but I understand lots of people have gotten it to work.  So it's probably just a simple config issue, one of the other guys here should be able to help you out (bloodline? you around?)
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: Rodney on November 18, 2003, 05:14:23 AM
Quote

RedWarrior wrote:
Ok- 120 meg Amiga drive attached to my xp machine... latest version of WinUAE... detected in bios, all good....

No icon on xp desktop, no icon on Workbench.

These legends of winuae being able to read Amiga drives...  pure myth?



I assume that you've added it in the WinUAE configurator?????
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: RedWarrior on November 18, 2003, 06:03:22 AM
There is no option to!

I checked "Add PC drives at startup"

and all other paths WinHD_X point to existing xp partitions.  It doesnt list or detect the Amiga drive.

Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: RedWarrior on November 18, 2003, 06:13:27 AM
can anyone validate the LATEST version of WinUAE (as of 18/11/03)??

I have version  0.8.8 release 8

is there a later one? websearch reveals too many locations professing to be the "home " of WinUAE...

Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: Psychobudgie on November 18, 2003, 06:37:02 AM
www.winuae.net (http://www.winuae.net) is the home of winuae


Edited by Argo: Corrected URL and made linkable
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: N7VQM on November 18, 2003, 06:42:47 AM
Quote

RedWarrior wrote:
wtf is RDB?


RDB=Rigid Disk Block.  It's the first few blocks on the drive that AmigaOS uses to keep track of partitions.
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: Trev on November 18, 2003, 07:00:19 AM
This is taken directly from the UAEHowTo.txt included with WinUAE:

"Select the hardrive in page harddrive with add harddrives. If there is no Drive listed then it is possible that this drive has no Amiga/Amithlon Partition or you use win98-me and your ASPI Manager support no Hardrives. The device name for this is uaehf.device."

Regardless of which operating system you're using (Windows 98/Me or Windows 2000/XP), you should download and install Adaptec's Windows ASPI Package (http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/drivers_by_product.html?sess=no&language=English+US&cat=/Product/ASPI-4.70). WinUAE needs an adequate ASPI layer installed to enumerate your system's devices. You can select your Amiga drive from the Hard Drives tab of the WinUAE Properties dialog by clicking on the Add Harddrive button and locating the Amiga drive in the Harddrive drop-down list. Any disk with a valid RDB should be visible, even if the disk hasn't been partitioned.

If everything's working properly, you can use HDToolbox and the uaehf.device inside the emulation to view or edit your drive's partitions:

hdtoolbox device=uaehf.device

If partitions exist on the drive, they should be recognized by Amiga OS.

Trev
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: bloodline on November 18, 2003, 12:42:02 PM
Quote

RedWarrior wrote:
can anyone validate the LATEST version of WinUAE (as of 18/11/03)??

I have version  0.8.8 release 8

is there a later one? websearch reveals too many locations professing to be the "home " of WinUAE...



Click the link below for the latest version of WinUAE
WinUAE home page (http://www.winuae.net/)

If your Hard drive is a strandard Amiga Formated Hard drive it should show up and be usable inside the WinUAE program (if you have your WinUAE config right, you can even boot from it).
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: pjhutch on November 18, 2003, 12:45:05 PM
Fine, XP has auto detected the drive BUT for Winuae to see it, you must TELL it that it exists via the Configuration under Hard Drives. Select 'Add Hard Disk' and add the drive you added.

Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: Karlos on November 18, 2003, 05:12:54 PM
@RedWarrior

That's what I meant when I said:
Quote

Karlos wrote:
Anyway, in the configuration window for uae, under the drives section you should be able to add it there.
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: RedWarrior on November 19, 2003, 04:03:56 AM
I don't have that  "add hardDrive" button in my version of WinUAE... there is only add hardfile, and add directory.

Latest WinUAE release number anyone?

Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: Karlos on November 19, 2003, 05:06:48 AM
Quote

RedWarrior wrote:
I don't have that  "add hardDrive" button in my version of WinUAE... there is only add hardfile, and add directory.

Latest WinUAE release number anyone?



Just go to the winuae homepage (http://www.winuae.net) and get the latest version, its always there.
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: Mike_Amiga on November 19, 2003, 06:01:02 AM
I coundn't even get UAEmac to work at all, far too complicated imho.
Title: Re: The Fabled Power of WinUAE
Post by: RedWarrior on November 19, 2003, 06:39:41 AM
Hooray hooray hooray!! It freaking well works!!!





What does a checksum error mean and how do I fix it?

Just copying stuff across whilst loading Galaga (oops!) and then got a guru, mis copy... think this may have something to do with it...

have i just fried my drive or is there a diskdoctor equivalent on wb3.1?