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Title: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 01, 2010, 12:02:31 AM
Well, that pretty much sums it up.  I'm also including a MultiFaceCard3 in the auction.

Now the bad news, they're both untested so sold AS-IS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110501054307

Thanks,

Curtis
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: haywirepc on March 01, 2010, 12:19:11 AM
Don't take offense to this, but in your auction you state this came with an amiga 2000 you got on ebay. How then, can you not know if it works?
 
I just don't understand people who know something does not work but still insist on posting it somewhere and implying it may work.
 
You also mention about the serial card "I am in desperate need of the slot it is occupying". Which means you still have the computer required to test both parts.
 
Why would you not simply test both parts before trying to sell them? Could it be you know full well that they are both dead as a doornail?
 
You and sellers like you is what makes it really tough to put together a good classic system. You have what you need to test these parts...Test them FIRST and THEN post them for sale. Oh wait, if you did that you may have to throw parts that don't work in the trash instead of taking someone's money for them knowing they are dead.
 
Steven
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: tasmanian guy on March 01, 2010, 12:27:52 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;545611
Don't take offense to this, but in your auction you state this came with an amiga 2000 you got on ebay. How then, can you not know if it works?
 
I just don't understand people who know something does not work but still insist on posting it somewhere and implying it may work.
 
You also mention about the serial card "I am in desperate need of the slot it is occupying". Which means you still have the computer required to test both parts.
 
Why would you not simply test both parts before trying to sell them? Could it be you know full well that they are both dead as a doornail?
 
You and sellers like you is what makes it really tough to put together a good classic system. You have what you need to test these parts...Test them FIRST and THEN post them for sale. Oh wait, if you did that you may have to throw parts that don't work in the trash instead of taking someone's money for them knowing they are dead.
 
Steven

Hmmm....I think the op has just been owned, but yes I hate this on ebay myself and you have to be careful when things are sold as is, because often the reason why they're sold as is, is because they know they don't work.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: haywirepc on March 01, 2010, 12:45:34 AM
I agree he clearly states in his auction he has an amiga 2000. Even worse, on his website he states he owns an amiga 500 and 1000. He has every means available to him to test these parts. There can be no reason not to test the parts to get more money for them...
 
These parts and dead dead dead.
 
Its unfortunate but there are many people doing the same on ebay.
 
Steven
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: stefcep2 on March 01, 2010, 12:49:03 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;545611
Don't take offense to this, but in your auction you state this came with an amiga 2000 you got on ebay. How then, can you not know if it works?
 
I just don't understand people who know something does not work but still insist on posting it somewhere and implying it may work.
 
You also mention about the serial card "I am in desperate need of the slot it is occupying". Which means you still have the computer required to test both parts.
 
Why would you not simply test both parts before trying to sell them? Could it be you know full well that they are both dead as a doornail?
 
You and sellers like you is what makes it really tough to put together a good classic system. You have what you need to test these parts...Test them FIRST and THEN post them for sale. Oh wait, if you did that you may have to throw parts that don't work in the trash instead of taking someone's money for them knowing they are dead.
 
Steven


Pisses me off big time when people do this.  I now take "As is" to mean "its broken"
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: LoadWB on March 01, 2010, 01:00:50 AM
I dunno.  This seems to sum it up quite well
Quote
Now the bad news.  I do not know if it works or not.  When I got it it was plugged in like it's supposed to be.  The computer works with it in place, but the driver/installer software was not installed so the best I can say about the condition of this unit is it doesn't lock the computer up.  The driver/installer software is available at the Amiga Hardware Database I referenced earlier.

He did not download the installer software to test it.  Perhaps for him it is a pain in the ass to do so -- download to PC, transfer for Amiga, put on a disk... I have a difficult time condemning him for this.

But from our end, we could reasonably assume that it works, since the system worked with it plugged in and every accelerator I have used is activated by default upon start-up.  Provided, of course, that the whole description is not a lie.

Quote from: haywirepc
There can be no reason not to test the parts to get more money for them...

Maybe getting more money out of it is not his intention.  The bid price is around $10 with $10 for shipping.  I would be willing to risk $20 on this.

I looked at his website, too.  I certainly would not want to disassemble the A1000 setup he has, nor would I likely be inclined to open up the A500, still having to go through the download-transfer-process.  Again, he is putting it up for $10 (current bid price) and shipping.  Pffft.

Quote from: stefcep2
Pisses me off big time when people do this. I now take "As is" to mean "its broken"
Understandable without the explanation he provided. I would ask for some proof of a functioning system, perhaps a dated photo of showconfig, which should easily detect the accelerator.  But I have seen people get just as testy about tested equipment when the charge is a little higher for a guaranteed working part.

Bah. The short: someone will buy it from him and either get a great device or a shyt paper-weight, and we will not have anything to do with either.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: haywirepc on March 01, 2010, 01:01:38 AM
Anyone with 3 amigas should have a way to get a driver disk over to their amiga, I don't buy that. Would you take 20$ for something that could possibly get 200$ because your too lazy to copy a driver over? I don't know, sounds fishy...
 
As is means "broken".
Yes I do exactly the same got burned several times so far, to me if its not guarenteed working, its just trash. These people make it tough for people to put together nice classic systems. If I'm wasting money on trash like this, its no wonder I can't afford to get another amiga going.
 
My absolute favorite of these people are people selling lcd monitors.
"As is untested, no way to test it." Then look at their other auctions and they are selling 100 computers they can test the lcd monitor with :)
 
Amazing...
 
I challenge this seller to test the parts and take down his auction if they parts are dead, but I have little faith in that happening...
 
 
Steven
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 01, 2010, 01:04:44 AM
Okay folks, someone asked the same things y'all are asking.

Here's my reply:
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Like I said, both units were plugged into the Amiga 2000 when I got it. I turned on the computer and it booted. There was no screen asking if I wanted to use the accelerator or the stock 68000. It just booted up normal. I DO NOT have the driver/installer software so cannot test it out any further.

As far as the MultiFaceCard3, again, I DO NOT have driver/installer disks. How do you suggest I test it?

And before you ask, no, I don't have CrossDOS to download the drivers/installers and move it over to the Amiga.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA IF THESE ARE DEAD OR NOT! CLEAR ENOUGH???
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn't even know the accelerator was installed until I opened it up!

If you want to flame, and bitch and piss and moan, go ahead.  I used to be a big Amiga fan, but there are some many damned jackasses like you that have ruined the community.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 01, 2010, 01:06:36 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;545611
Don't take offense to this, but in your auction you state this came with an amiga 2000 you got on ebay. How then, can you not know if it works?
 
I just don't understand people who know something does not work but still insist on posting it somewhere and implying it may work.
 
You also mention about the serial card "I am in desperate need of the slot it is occupying". Which means you still have the computer required to test both parts.
 
Why would you not simply test both parts before trying to sell them? Could it be you know full well that they are both dead as a doornail?
 
You and sellers like you is what makes it really tough to put together a good classic system. You have what you need to test these parts...Test them FIRST and THEN post them for sale. Oh wait, if you did that you may have to throw parts that don't work in the trash instead of taking someone's money for them knowing they are dead.
 
Steven


Check my feedback.  I stand by my reputation.  How about you?

I don't seem to be twisting you arm to bid on them.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 01, 2010, 01:07:40 AM
AS-IS means AS-IS.  May work perfectly, maybe not.  I DO NOT KNOW!

Quote from: stefcep2;545621
Pisses me off big time when people do this.  I now take "As is" to mean "its broken"
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: koaftder on March 01, 2010, 01:09:38 AM
Cut the guy a break, he got a 2k off ebay and found it it had an accel in it and he doesn't have any clue how to use it and doesn't want it. I've bought a1ks of ebay and found accels in them and had a hell of a time figuring out how to get them to work. I don't see anything particularly malicious about this listing. AS-IS, treat it as possibly broken, don't spend money on it you don't mind loosing.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: haywirepc on March 01, 2010, 01:13:59 AM
Yes your right I ruined the entire amiga community, simply by pointing out you have everything you need to test the parts but for some reason you still choose not to.
 
I ruined the entire amiga community by simply asking you to take 2 minutes and test the parts before trying to make money off of what could br broken or otherwise nonworking parts.
 
Your right, I'm sorry people like me are  ruining the amiga community.
 
Steven
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 01, 2010, 01:15:19 AM
Quote from: koaftder;545628
Cut the guy a break, he got a 2k off ebay and found it it had an accel in it and he doesn't have any clue how to use it and doesn't want it. I've bought a1ks of ebay and found accels in them and had a hell of a time figuring out how to get them to work. I don't see anything particularly malicious about this listing. AS-IS, treat it as possibly broken, don't spend money on it you don't mind loosing.


Thank You!

If I wanted the item, I would bend over backwards trying to figure out how to get it to work.  Since I have absolutely NO interest in either of these, why should I spend the time?

I still say, I'm not twisting anyone's arm to bid on these.  I'm simply trying to pass on some gear that may or MAY NOT work to someone who is interested in it.

I could have simply tossed them in the trash as was suggested.  Then another CSA Mega Midget Racer that MIGHT have worked would've been lost.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: haywirepc on March 01, 2010, 01:22:23 AM
Lets agree to disagree on this one. Good luck with your sale...
 
Steven
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: LoadWB on March 01, 2010, 01:27:10 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;545630
Yes your right I ruined the entire amiga community, simply by pointing out you have everything you need to test the parts but for some reason you still choose not to.
 
I ruined the entire amiga community by simply asking you to take 2 minutes and test the parts before trying to make money off of what could br broken or otherwise nonworking parts.
 
Your right, I'm sorry people like me are  ruining the amiga community.
 
Steven

FFS, are you quite finished?  No, "you're" just being a whiny little girl about him not wanting to test a unit in which he has no interest, instead wanting to sell it to someone who does.  In case you are not aware, people do this kind of thing all the time in plenty of other markets beside the "Amiga" community, with plenty of happy results.  Good transactions under these conditions are the norm, not the exception.

Just because you got screwed on some eBay deal does not mean that every eBay seller is out to screw you.  Live by the rules you set for yourself and let others live theirs, or just get over yourself and stop trolling.  (Or was that the other complainer?  I cannot tell the difference as whiny girl voices sound the same to me.)

Quote from: haywirepc
Lets agree to disagree on this one. Good luck with your sale...

Was it worth it?
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: Akiko on March 01, 2010, 01:27:45 AM
He seems to accept returns, so I assume the buyer can return for a refund if found to be damaged?
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: rkauer on March 01, 2010, 01:41:22 AM
The auction have a non-DOA guarantee. What do you think?
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: stefcep2 on March 01, 2010, 01:42:24 AM
Quote from: koaftder;545628
Cut the guy a break, he got a 2k off ebay and found it it had an accel in it and he doesn't have any clue how to use it and doesn't want it. I've bought a1ks of ebay and found accels in them and had a hell of a time figuring out how to get them to work. I don't see anything particularly malicious about this listing. AS-IS, treat it as possibly broken, don't spend money on it you don't mind loosing.

Its poor form and laziness IMO.  Compare this post here:

The list is about 1/3 complete, I will continue to add to it as I test and photograph items. Thanks for looking!!!

Description Condition Price Qty Avail
A501 Ram expansion Some Batt Damage but Working $10.00 2
ICD AdRAM 540 w/ 4MB Used $75.00 1
Final Writer 97 Complete with Box $12.50 1
Final Writer 97 Disks and Manual $8.00 1
Softwood EPSClips: Holidays, Animal1, Flowers Disks $5.00 1
Game: Wonderland Complete with Box $5.00 1
A2091 Used $15.00 1
Final Copy II Complete with Box $12.50 2
CD: Gold Fish CD $4.00 1
CD32: Insight Technology CD $4.00 1
Kickstart Switcher Used $8.00 1
KickBack Switcher Used with Manual $10.00 1
MediaVision External SCSI CDROM Used $7.50 2
CD32: Microcosm CD $5.00 1
A570 Complete with Box $65.00 1
Art Department Pro Complete with Box $5.00 1
Amigavision Complete with Box $5.00 1
DCTV Complete with Box $20.00 1
ImageFX Complete with Box $7.50 1
ImageMaster Complete with Box + 3VHS tutorials $10.00 1
Math Blaster Complete with Box $4.00 1
Game: Sinbad Complete with Box $5.00 1
Surf Squirrel, SCSI and serial Complete with Box $25.00 1
1MB 30pin SIMM Used $1.00 50
4MB 30pin SIMM New $6.00 8
4MB 30pin SIMM Used $4.00 12
GVP A500-HD+, 540mb Quantum + 8MB Fast RAM Used $100.00 1
256k x4 DIP DRAM, 70ns+ Used $0.50 32
256k x4 DIP DRAM, 60ns (works @ 50ns!!!) Used $0.75 16
175MB 2.5" Hard Drive Used $5.00 2
180MB 2.5" Hard Drive Used $5.00 6
2MB 72pin SIMM (A4000 chipram) Used $5.00 2
68882 PLCC 33mhz (tested good at 60mhz, will guarantee 50mhz) New $15.00 5
A1200 motherboard NTSC 1D1, Kick 3.1 Used $40.00 1
A1300 Genlock Used $10.00 1
A1680 Modem Complete with Box $5.00 1
A25000 2MB RAM Used $10.00 2
A520 New? $10.00 2
Action Replay Used with Manual $15.00 1
Amigen, very poor image with a2000/flickerfixer Issues??? $4.00 1
CD: BCI Net CD $4.00 1
Best Data 33.6k modem Used $4.00 1
CD32 Controller Used $5.00 1
CD32: The Chaos Engine Cd $5.00 1
CNET 56k modem Used $5.00 1
CD32: Insight Dinosaurs Used $4.00 1
External Floppy Used $10.00 1
CD: Fish & More CD $4.00 1
Gravis JoyPad Used $4.00 1
Misc Joysticks Used $3.00 5
Sega JoyPad Used $4.00 1
128k x8 70ns SRAM (used by CSA mega midget racer) New $3.50 4
SuperGen 2000s Used $15.00 1
Supra 8MB RAM (with 4MB populated) Used $15.00 1
USR 56k Modem Used $5.00 1
Video Backup System Used $10.00 1
Viper 1230 28mhz 030+882, 8MB Used $100.00 1
Video Toaster Used $20.00 1
Video Toaster 4000 Used $30.00 1
MTEC 1230LC 42mhz 030+882, 4MB Used $100.00 1

This seller is testing the stuff, before selling it, how long would that take with that list, of which he is 1/3 of the way through, compared to how long ONE item would take.  Compare the two approaches.

The OP talks about the Amiga Community in the past, so he's not a noob, he would have some knowledge about how to go about testing, or where to ask, but he chooses not to, or already knows its dead, but wants to sell it with no recourse for the buyer.  Well some "Community spirit"" that is!  

Anyway it IS a free market, he can offer it for sale however he wants, just as buyers are free to draw their own conclusions about what the selling terms mean.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: Damion on March 01, 2010, 01:45:04 AM
Quote from: koaftder;545628
Cut the guy a break, he got a 2k off ebay and found it it had an accel in it and he doesn't have any clue how to use it and doesn't want it. I've bought a1ks of ebay and found accels in them and had a hell of a time figuring out how to get them to work. I don't see anything particularly malicious about this listing. AS-IS, treat it as possibly broken, don't spend money on it you don't mind loosing.

+1

Looks like a good seller, perfect feedback, provided plenty of good pics and other information... What's the problem?

The way I see it, this is 25-year old gear, there will always be an element of risk. Even if it tested perfect in one A2000, there's a small chance it might not work in another... too many factors involved to provide guarantees. (Maybe your motherboard has blown caps, or your PSU is tired, etc etc)
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: rkauer on March 01, 2010, 01:51:03 AM
Oh, to test the MMR board it's just a matter of plug it in a 68000 socket, fire up the Amiga and in a CLI window type "showconfig" (needs WB2.x, of course).

 IIRC, there is no available tool to do so in 1.x Workbench without a Sysinfo disk.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: TjLaZer on March 01, 2010, 03:18:32 AM
Am I missing something here?  The Accelerator has been tested and it works, as per the "Clearly inexperienced" OP.  He said he turned the A2000 on and it worked:

Quote
Like I said, both units were plugged into the Amiga 2000 when I got it. I turned on the computer and it booted. There was no screen asking if I wanted to use the accelerator or the stock 68000. It just booted up normal. I DO NOT have the driver/installer software so cannot test it out any further.

The 68030 CPU card does not need drivers.  The RAM might need a driver, if it is not already "autoconfig" capable.  The CPU automatically configs itself and takes over the 68000 and is a 68030 on every Amiga I have ever seen and used (I have have them all).  

Even a 68040/68060 turbo card will report the system as having a 68040 CPU with no driver or OS loaded!  (SysInfo 3.4x)

(If you run SysInfo on a CLI without loading WB/drivers it will report what CPU is currently installed and autoconfiged)

Maybe instead of whining about him not testing, etc. let him know he already did???!  LOL
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on March 01, 2010, 06:03:28 AM
I bought a bunch of PC parts from an online auction, it was a placed that got rid of companies decommisioned computers. The description on the website said condition "unknown".
When I got them delivered they had big stickers on them describing the faults in them or "not working."
I was not the only one ring them up and complain and luckily they were sorry and refunded my money.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: Boudicca on March 01, 2010, 11:24:36 AM
Quote from: stefcep2;545621
Pisses me off big time when people do this.  I now take "As is" to mean "its broken"

I beg to differ,  I spent quite a few years as a flea-market trader and "As-is" is something that all ebay auctions should state, even new items as there is no come back no matter what the blurb tells you.

However I agree with "Untested" is something that I wish sellers would drop unless its a bulk purchase.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: chiark on March 01, 2010, 11:36:26 AM
Showconfig will show you something, but it won't show you if the memory is working.  For that you need the CSA utility as the memory does not autoconfig.

This unit appears to have the SRAM and 4MB DRAM options, so you'd need to run csa-mmr SRAM DRAM 25.  (You can use the SRAM as ram, or as a local ROM shadow - use SROM option instead of SRAM :D )

(where 25 is the speed of the CPU).

You can also jumper the CSA-MMR to run in 68000 mode if the 68000 is installed on the unit.

So it isn't just "plug it in and see if it works".  You need to read the manual, check the jumpers, run the software...

The software is available on the net, as is the manual.  If anyone buys this and needs a hand, drop me a PM: I have two MMRs, both get lots of use, and both are great
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: amiga92570 on March 01, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
I have several of these. They are a great little cards. I would bid at least $75.00 for it even if it doesn't work. If it's broke, I'll fix it. Thats what I like to say. I have seen these go for $300.00 dollars, so Maybe I would get a deal.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: clusteruk on March 01, 2010, 01:39:32 PM
Looks like something that would be at home in my A1000.

Basically the usual scenario is, if it boots it is probably ok, if dead then the Amiga would probably complain bitterly.

Worth small gamble.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 01, 2010, 01:55:22 PM
Quote from: TjLaZer;545661
Am I missing something here?  The Accelerator has been tested and it works, as per the "Clearly inexperienced" OP.  He said he turned the A2000 on and it worked:



The 68030 CPU card does not need drivers.  The RAM might need a driver, if it is not already "autoconfig" capable.  The CPU automatically configs itself and takes over the 68000 and is a 68030 on every Amiga I have ever seen and used (I have have them all).  

Even a 68040/68060 turbo card will report the system as having a 68040 CPU with no driver or OS loaded!  (SysInfo 3.4x)

(If you run SysInfo on a CLI without loading WB/drivers it will report what CPU is currently installed and autoconfiged)

Maybe instead of whining about him not testing, etc. let him know he already did???!  LOL


When I first got the A2000, I plugged it in and turned it on.  Dual floppy system, so inserted 2.04 WB floppy in drive.  Unit booted normally.  No cpu selector screen.  I had an A2000 many years ago that would pop up asking which cpu I wanted to use.  Not this one.

It wasn't until I opened the machine up that I discovered the MMR board installed.  Amiga Hardware Database shows an installer disk so I presumed this needs to be installed for the '030 to be recognized.  If this is not the case, the unit could very well be dead.

I also discovered an Oktagon hard drive controller with 4Mb of RAM inside.  No drive!  Memory is recognized which is nice.  However, again, no drivers for the SCSI side of the world.  Since I'm replacing this with a Buddha card, does anyone want the Oktagon?  $20 and shipping and it's yours.  Memory works, hard drive controller portion is untested.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: tone007 on March 01, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
Mega Midget Racer win!
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: save2600 on March 01, 2010, 03:51:30 PM
What I want to know is how those pins got so bent?  :ponder:  :lol:

@Curtis: thanks for offering and posting here. I'd love to have one of these someday for my A1000, but alas - too broke as usual. Good luck with the sale!
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: mdv2000 on March 01, 2010, 03:59:33 PM
Just want to throw in my 2 cents worth... ALL OLD AMIGA HARDWARE is ai-is and you should assume issues and bid accordingly.  When I sold some of my Amiga Hardware on ebay - I showed pics it working - but gave no guarantee/AS-IS buyer must insure.  Old computer equipment - especially bulky Amiga hardware - most likely must ship US email to be affordable so you have to accept its a always at risk.  Decide how much you want to risk and bid accordingly.

If the seller doesn't want to test and show working - then just accept it may be broke and don't bid high.  Ebay is the ultimate free market - the demand sets the price. I'd love to get a MegaMidgetRacer for my trusty old A500 - but after a 68030-25 for my A2000, I just keep A500 for playing those pesky games that don't like acceleration.  

Also, kinda on but off topic too - as time goes by Amiga hardware will become rarer and more expensive as long as people care about it.  Just look at classic Atari consoles like the 7800.  They where great ebay items for a while - but since they don't work on modern Digitial TVs, the demand is going away and the one I sold with games for over $100 a few years back goes for like $25.

That is something else people need to think about - a lot of our vintage stuff will eventually not work - especially if you hook them to TV, etc cause new TV's don't support the old NTSC analog.  If you don't have a way to hook your Amiga to a monitor - you better be looking at a way to when that old analog tv dies.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: LoadWB on March 02, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Quote from: mdv2000;545725

Also, kinda on but off topic too - as time goes by Amiga hardware will become rarer and more expensive as long as people care about it.  Just look at classic Atari consoles like the 7800.  They where great ebay items for a while - but since they don't work on modern Digitial TVs, the demand is going away and the one I sold with games for over $100 a few years back goes for like $25.

That is something else people need to think about - a lot of our vintage stuff will eventually not work - especially if you hook them to TV, etc cause new TV's don't support the old NTSC analog.  If you don't have a way to hook your Amiga to a monitor - you better be looking at a way to when that old analog tv dies.


I modded my 7800 to output SVHS, which is still supported by a good number of TV sets.  I should be able to pull in a couple hundred then, eh? ;)
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: dangermouse on March 02, 2010, 02:37:39 AM
Just looking on the Amiga Hardware database and it states:

" Two versions of this daughterboard were made, depending on whether the accelerator was to be used in an A500 or A2000. One version had 40pins, whilst the other had 50pins."

I'm assuming this one (as it came out of a 2000) does not fit a 500 but, regardless, the 40pin version corresponds to which machine?
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: rkauer on March 02, 2010, 03:13:55 AM
Every MMR has its own RAM expansion. Some are 40 pin, other are 50pin. Doesn't matter!

 What counts is if the card have the companion RAM expansion!
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: koaftder on March 07, 2010, 04:59:01 AM
19 hours left and it's at 76 dollars...
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: Plaz on March 07, 2010, 07:03:49 AM
As a long time MMR owner, one quick question and answer solves this mystery. Did the MMR have a 68K plugged in when the system booted?

If yes, then it's possible the card is bad and the system booted from the piggybacked 68K. Bid accordingly.

If no, then the card is definitely good as the system could not have booted. The additional software does things like map the expansion ram, move kickstart from rom to ram and turn on cpu features like mmu and has nothing to do with booting.

@LoadWB

That about covers it for me as well.

Plaz
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: sandpiper on March 07, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
Ages ago I bought an MMR for an A500. When I upgraded to an A2000, I moved the MMR to the A2000. It worked fine except the MMR memory board protruded through the right hand side of the case (video slot side) by about an inch and I had to bend the case out to accommodate the MMR.

Having an MMR inside was therefore quite noticeable. As Curtis stated that he didn't know it was installed the case most likely wasn't bent outwards. I wonder if the A2000 version memory daughterboard was narrower? That would explain the differences between A500 & A2000 models, besides the number of pins being different).
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 07, 2010, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Plaz;546519
As a long time MMR owner, one quick question and answer solves this mystery. Did the MMR have a 68K plugged in when the system booted?

If yes, then it's possible the card is bad and the system booted from the piggybacked 68K. Bid accordingly.

If no, then the card is definitely good as the system could not have booted. The additional software does things like map the expansion ram, move kickstart from rom to ram and turn on cpu features like mmu and has nothing to do with booting.

@LoadWB

That about covers it for me as well.

Plaz


Yes, the computer had the 68000 chip installed onto the MMR and booted.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 08, 2010, 12:27:12 AM
Okay, I'm as stunned as anyone here.  I honestly did not expect $164.68.  I was HOPING for $20.

Now.  Here's what I've offered the buyer. IF this does not work, I'm going to give him a 50% refund.  Why 50%?  Simple,  I figure the zip RAM chips will work and if so, 4Mb of zip RAM is well worth $80.  If it turns out the zip RAM chips are bad, I'll deal with that.

Don't know if the winner is here or not, but I have asked him to let me know as soon as he gets the package in and tests it out.  I will let everyone here know.  

I feel these are very fair terms.  Of course, I know there are still some people who will feel I'm screwing the winner if the board turns out to be bad, but I've learned there are always whiners out there.

Again, I will have to trust the winning bidder to tell me the truth.  No other recourse there.

So, let the second firestorm begin!
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: dangermouse on March 08, 2010, 01:07:58 AM
An offer of a refund is an offer of a refund but, personally, I'd go with the full refund upon return (minus shipping) if the item is defective. That way a) the buyer can't shaft you as they need to return the item and b) you aren't shafting the buyer. The shipping cost is simply the risk the buyer takes.

I've done that with a few items and all have worked so the refund wasn't needed but it's a cleaner process. $80 for zip RAM is expensive if he has no use for it outside the MMR.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 08, 2010, 01:36:21 AM
Good points all the way around!  I will take that under advisement.

Quote from: dangermouse;546629
An offer of a refund is an offer of a refund but, personally, I'd go with the full refund upon return (minus shipping) if the item is defective. That way a) the buyer can't shaft you as they need to return the item and b) you aren't shafting the buyer. The shipping cost is simply the risk the buyer takes.

I've done that with a few items and all have worked so the refund wasn't needed but it's a cleaner process. $80 for zip RAM is expensive if he has no use for it outside the MMR.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: haywirepc on March 08, 2010, 03:02:25 AM
The buyer could also just cut the card in half and send back half to the seller...
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 08, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: haywirepc;546639
The buyer could also just cut the card in half and send back half to the seller...


Yeah, hadn't thought of that!

If it doesn't work, I'll have the winner send it back and give him a full refund.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: zombie10k on March 08, 2010, 03:12:35 PM
I am the $161 bid, I was pretty confident it was going to work fine and was hoping to try this out in in my A1000 which I'm installing the 3.1 adapter rom from DJbase I bought about 2 years ago.

instead I am going to try and get my GVP A530 turbo attached to the A1000 for a self boot 3.1 setup.

glad you got a good price for it, they are hard to find.
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: curtis on March 24, 2010, 12:58:06 PM
Just a quick update regarding this item.

I heard back from the winning bidder.  Seems the MMR itself was good and the cpu was recognized, but the memory card was not!  Doesn't make for much of an accelaration like that!

I offered his choice of either half back and he keep the item or a full refund if he would return it to me.  He elected for the partial refund.

This sort of makes sense to me since if he can find someone who has the opposite he can score a memory board and end up with a good unit.

I know there will be some out there who say he's lying to me and the item actually works, but you know, I really don't care.  I technically got the thing free so either way, I came out ahead and I described the item as best I could.  The winning bidder went in with eyes open and came out somewhat ahead.

In my opinion, both of us came out ahead.

Curtis
Title: Re: FA: CSA Mega Midget Racer with RAM card
Post by: scuzzb494 on March 24, 2010, 01:48:23 PM
Hi

For anyone interested here is the manual for mine... plus images

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/scuzzblog/megamidget_02.zip

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0507/a_scuzz_retro_0507_152.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0507/a_scuzz_retro_0507_153.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0507/a_scuzz_retro_0507_154.jpg

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