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Title: CrossDOS help
Post by: dreamcast270mhz on February 07, 2010, 09:41:09 PM
I am a newbie to CrossDOS, so assume I know nothing. I formatted a 720k floppy in my PC as FAT and then tested it in my 3000D, where it came up as DF0:????. After digging around, I read the Amiga has to format it. So, under WB 3.1, I go to the format tool on my HDD. It sees my floppy but there is no option to format it. So, under HDtoolbox I install the CrossDOSFileSystem under L directory. I do a warm reboot, but its still DF0:????. So, I try typing crossdos under shell. I get a little window with a blank menu and a bunch of greyed out buttons. So, I'm at a loss of what I need to do.
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: motorollin on February 07, 2010, 09:44:36 PM
Don't bother with the CrossDOS utility. Just move the PC0 mountlist from SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers to DEVS: DOSDrivers, mount it, then format PC0 instead of DF0 with the disk in the internal floppy drive.

--
moto
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: Matt_H on February 08, 2010, 03:20:18 AM
Moto's advice should get you operational. Remember that you'll be limited to DOS 8.3 filenames unless you have CrossDOS v7.
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: save2600 on March 04, 2010, 08:02:30 PM
On my A3000 with AmigaOS3.1 and PC0: loaded, the disk drive will spin, bring up the two icons, freeze the icons (can't do anything with them) and then the light on the drive stays on - rendering the floppy useless. Without PC0: enabled, the disk drive is fine in Amiga mode.

I've used CrossDOS and not. Made sure the tooltypes were correct for PC0: as well. Something wrong with my disk drive you think? External 1010 configured as PC2: works fine - so I'm thinking something is up with my HD DF0: drive. Maybe a jumper is misconfigured on the back?
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: scuzzb494 on March 05, 2010, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: dreamcast270mhz;541947
I am a newbie to CrossDOS, so assume I know nothing. I formatted a 720k floppy in my PC as FAT and then tested it in my 3000D, where it came up as DF0:????. After digging around, I read the Amiga has to format it. So, under WB 3.1, I go to the format tool on my HDD. It sees my floppy but there is no option to format it. So, under HDtoolbox I install the CrossDOSFileSystem under L directory. I do a warm reboot, but its still DF0:????. So, I try typing crossdos under shell. I get a little window with a blank menu and a bunch of greyed out buttons. So, I'm at a loss of what I need to do.


You can choose to launch the PC0 at any time.. I have both my PC0 and PC1 in a drawer. I have an XL drive for PC disks and I don`t format them they will get read in the PC drive format. You should get 2 icons when loaded, the DF0:???? which means its not an Amiga disk and another, say 'empty' which is the PC disk. If you have fired up PC0: from the tool icon you should be able to use this as a PC formated disk and copy stuff to the Amiga. Best to get DOpus running and you can set one of your accessible drives as a PC drive and just copy stuff across. Very useful getting an XL Drive if you can... These read the bigger more common PC Disks. You don`t need to format anything on the Amiga really once you have a standard PC Formatted disk. You do get problems with file name length and FAT sometimes which can be cured by downloading a couple of tools off Aminet.

The XL drive made by Power Computing plugs into your drive on the back of the 3000. There is a patch needed which comes on a disk.

PS: When you click the PC0: or PC1: tool icon it tells you if the drive is mounted. Just put them both in your DEVS:DOSDrivers drawer... They are actually 'Projects'. Reboot the machine and when inserted the disk will appear with a CROSSDos icon... Ignore the Amiga DF0:????.Just click to check the PC contents and copy or add to it.

scuzz
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: amigagr on March 05, 2010, 08:40:34 PM
@dreamcast270mhz (http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=6093): do as motorollin said but better use http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/fat95
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: scuzzb494 on March 05, 2010, 08:41:21 PM
Quote from: save2600;546197
On my A3000 with AmigaOS3.1 and PC0: loaded, the disk drive will spin, bring up the two icons, freeze the icons (can't do anything with them) and then the light on the drive stays on - rendering the floppy useless. Without PC0: enabled, the disk drive is fine in Amiga mode.

I've used CrossDOS and not. Made sure the tooltypes were correct for PC0: as well. Something wrong with my disk drive you think? External 1010 configured as PC2: works fine - so I'm thinking something is up with my HD DF0: drive. Maybe a jumper is misconfigured on the back?



What size PC floppy disks are you using ? ... The standard A3000 isn`t a HD drive.. Dont think so anyway. May be wrong. Never used an A3000.

If I put a HD 1.44MB in the A1200 standard drive then I get the symptoms you describe. I also had to patch my XL drive to read HD disks.

scuzz
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: scuzzb494 on March 05, 2010, 08:45:36 PM
Quote from: motorollin;541949
Don't bother with the CrossDOS utility. Just move the PC0 mountlist from SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers to DEVS: DOSDrivers, mount it, then format PC0 instead of DF0 with the disk in the internal floppy drive.

--
moto


PC0 is a project and will activate from DEVS on reboot. Why would you need to format the disk. It should be a readable PC disk, thats the joy of it.
Title: Re: CrossDOS help
Post by: rockape on March 05, 2010, 08:47:41 PM
Hi,

I use FAT 95

See  http://aminet.net/disk/misc/fat95.readme

"Purpose
=======

"fat95" is a DOS handler to mount and use Win95/98 volumes just as if they were
AMIGA volumes.

System requirements
===================

* every AMIGA, OS 1.3+ (OS 2.0+ for full functionality)
* a suitable device file for low level disk access, like the
  mfm.device for floppies.

Features
========

* workbench and applications support
* diskchange autosense
* format type autosense: FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32
* simple LINUX style partition selection or manual definition
* up to 4 GBytes of partition size for FAT16
* large harddisk support via TD64 or direct SCSI
* long filenames (up to 104 chars for now)
* inquiry, read, write, and maintenance access
* built-in error check utility
* disk formatting using the OS 2.0+ format command
* MS-DOS 8.3 downward compatibility
* user definable language and code page
* date range Jan 1st, 1980 through Dec 31st, 2107
* extended datestamp support: creation date and time, last accessed date
  (written automatically, readable as file comment text)
* volume serial number as name for unnamed volumes
* automatic directory optimization
* written entirely in assembly language"

Regards, Michael

aka rockape