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Title: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Tension on February 04, 2010, 12:18:01 PM
What is the best Amiga forum apart from this site??

Never really frequented EAB or Amigaworld before...  

This place is doing my head in though.  Cant hack the Nazi-style moderation any longer.


Jesus, this post will probably get deleted for even daring to mention the competition.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: dougal on February 04, 2010, 12:46:24 PM
EAB is a decent board too.. But i prefare amiga.org
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Karlos on February 04, 2010, 12:49:06 PM
@tension

You're having a laugh, right? The "competition" are all listed in the link section already: see here (http://www.amiga.org/links/browselinks.php?c=3).

You're seemingly peeved because you've had a post edited or removed. This is a "family friendly" site and there are rules about the use of bad language, personal attacks and the like. Don't go round calling people "c***s" and you should be fine.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: dannyp1 on February 04, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
This site used to be my favorite, but has slipped recently several spots down my list for exactly the reason stated.  "Nazi-style moderation".  EAB has risen to the top for me.  It is a little bit more gaming oriented than I am but it covers my areas of interest also and many of the "movers and shakers" seem to be there more and more.  It is getting to the point here on Amiga.org where many of their more knowledgable members are more of the "has-beens" type who did some neat things 8 or 10 years ago but now only come here for their social fix.  I do not mean that last sentance in a negative way.  One of my biggest problems with the moderation, is that they act on complaints when there are no complaints,  they make the complaints themselves.  They don't have to do the thinking for Amiga Inc.  If Amiga Inc. sees something they don't like or object to they are perfectly capable of complaining themselves without the moderators doing it for them.  It's kind of like the police coming around and arresting a local Bar Band because they played "Let It Be" and Paul McCartney might not like it.  If it was something of a magnitude that Paul didn't like, HE would let them know.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: lelezetec on February 04, 2010, 01:36:09 PM
Quote from: Tension;541489
What is the best Amiga forum apart from this site??

Never really frequented EAB or Amigaworld before...  

This place is doing my head in though.  Cant hack the Nazi-style moderation any longer.


Jesus, this post will probably get deleted for even daring to mention the competition.


I think you're probably just a flamer or an 0teen... messages like that should never be written.

You want to get away? Just go and don't mess around. Just another lame attempt to say "hey I'm goin away, try to stop me!"

(http://static.open.salon.com/files/loser-11250699604.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: ZeBeeDee on February 04, 2010, 01:40:55 PM
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/zebeedee/calm-down-dear.jpg)

Somebody lock this thread before more flaming begins ... sheesh!
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: B00tDisk on February 04, 2010, 01:55:05 PM
Quote from: Tension;541489
What is the best Amiga forum apart from this site??

Never really frequented EAB or Amigaworld before...  

This place is doing my head in though.  Cant hack the Nazi-style moderation any longer.


Jesus, this post will probably get deleted for even daring to mention the competition.


I don't give a damn what boards you do or don't use, but you don't even have the faintest idea what "Nazi" means if you're using in context to describe how the owners of a message board have a set direction they want those boards to go in.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: tokyoracer on February 04, 2010, 01:59:48 PM
@ dannyp1, Come on now... it's not that bad, just calm it. If you don't like the atmosphere here then just go and post elsewhere, no need to tell people how much this place sucks in your opinion.
People can make that judgement for themselves.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: dannyp1 on February 04, 2010, 02:06:57 PM
Excuse me for having an opinion.  I was polite and didn't swear or do any name-calling and still I'm told to go elsewhere because my opinion is different from somebody elses.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Karlos on February 04, 2010, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: ZeBeeDee;541503
Somebody lock this thread before more flaming begins ... sheesh!

That'll only demonstrate how rigidly nazi-moderated the site is. If people want to moan about such stuff that's fine, as long as the moaning itself doesn't actually break any of the rules they are already moaning about :lol:
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: tokyoracer on February 04, 2010, 02:14:32 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;541511
Excuse me for having an opinion.  I was polite and didn't swear or do any name-calling and still I'm told to go elsewhere because my opinion is different from somebody elses.

I never said you swore, I do agree that this site isn't what I remember it from 2006 when I first joined but I still find it a useful resource for info and goods.

That's my two pence.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Karlos on February 04, 2010, 02:34:23 PM
I'm actually a bit curious, perhaps the complainants can explain.

In what sense is the moderation "nazi stype" ?

I've probably seen more of Hailley's comet than I have moderation occurences here.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: jj on February 04, 2010, 03:05:35 PM
Well for example the other day I mad a rude comment and before i knew it my entire race was being persecuated.  Oh no wait there, that would be actually be if this site had NAZI mods.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: ZeBeeDee on February 04, 2010, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: Karlos;541512
That'll only demonstrate how rigidly nazi-moderated the site is. If people want to moan about such stuff that's fine, as long as the moaning itself doesn't actually break any of the rules they are already moaning about :lol:

In that case ...

(http://www.forumspile.com/Flame-Flame_on.jpg)


:laughing:
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: outlawal2 on February 04, 2010, 03:18:15 PM
How about some specific examples of why you feel this way?  We can't agree or disagree with you unless we have some examples ...
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: redrumloa on February 04, 2010, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;541511
Excuse me for having an opinion. I was polite and didn't swear or do any name-calling and still I'm told to go elsewhere because my opinion is different from somebody elses.

Danny,
"Nazi-like" usually is not a polite term.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: dannyp1 on February 04, 2010, 06:27:55 PM
I guess it can be looked at differently by different people.  If you think it means throwing people into ovens and burning them, then no that is not what I meant.  If you think it could mean marching into town, doing whatever you felt like with no one to answer to and for whatever reasons you saw fit right or wrong, and then marching back out of town with an attitude of "I can do it so I did", then I think we're getting a little closer.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: desiv on February 04, 2010, 06:31:49 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;541553
I guess it can be looked at differently by different people.  If you think it means throwing people into ovens and burning them, then no that is not what I meant.  If you think it could mean marching into town, doing whatever you felt like with no one to answer to and for whatever reasons you saw fit right or wrong, and then marching back out of town with an attitude of "I can do it so I did", then I think we're getting a little closer.

Perhaps "totalitarian" might have been less likely to incite..

....Nah, doubt that; but it's got more syllables! :-)

:)

desiv
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: runequester on February 04, 2010, 06:56:19 PM
"Nazi like" ? You are joking right?
"boohoo I can't shit in somebody's backyard" would be more apt.
 
 
Lemon amiga is pretty fun for amiga games talk. This site seems to be the nicest for more hardware oriented talk.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: redrumloa on February 04, 2010, 07:06:48 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;541553
I guess it can be looked at differently by different people. If you think it means throwing people into ovens and burning them, then no that is not what I meant. If you think it could mean marching into town, doing whatever you felt like with no one to answer to and for whatever reasons you saw fit right or wrong, and then marching back out of town with an attitude of "I can do it so I did", then I think we're getting a little closer.

Considering not only have I met holocaust survivors, but one of my friend's parents still have the concentration camp tattoos, I don't see the comparison as polite. Yet your post did not get moderated, so I really don't see validity to your observation.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: TheGoose on February 04, 2010, 07:18:03 PM
I think the term is better put "brown shirts moderation" ... That was the youth birgades who tattle-tell on there parents... or others

:swords:
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: tone007 on February 04, 2010, 07:22:52 PM
[youtube]hoqSDvMMzE8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: outlawal2 on February 04, 2010, 07:24:02 PM
And you have still not provided any examples of this "nazi-like" moderation so any sympathy that you may have garnered at all is quickly dissipating...  

Once again...   Examples?
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: dannyp1 on February 04, 2010, 07:54:34 PM
Red, I thought I explained what my definition of the term was and the context I used it in.  Why would you keep insisting that your definition must be mine?
OutLawAl, I don't remember asking for any sympathy?  After you've been around for awhile and have read enough threads you either will or you won't see what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Gulliver on February 04, 2010, 07:56:20 PM
Maybe @dannyp1 has a valid point that he cannot express without enough freedom, because when he tries to do that, a couple of users will start to attck him instead of being open minded, tolerant and see it as positivie critizism.

By the way, nowadays i tend to visit EAB more frequently than Amiga.org. It is a personal opinion, that somehow Amiga.org isnt as Amiga friendly, and open minded as it used to be, and has diverted from the comunity it served quite a bit.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: TheGoose on February 04, 2010, 08:01:33 PM
Dang...

People - 1
Sysops - 0

"By the way, nowadays i tend to visit EAB more frequently than Amiga.org. It is a personal opinion, that somehow Amiga.org isnt as Amiga friendly, and open minded as it used to be, and has diverted from the comunity it served quite a bit."
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: redrumloa on February 04, 2010, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;541565
Red, I thought I explained what my definition of the term was and the context I used it in. Why would you keep insisting that your definition must be mine?

It appears you missed my point completely. Do you really think I am implying you meant the literal sense :confused: I have no issues with you Danny, I think you should know that.
 
If some you guys want no moderation whatsoever, spend some time on Moobunny. Just make sure your skin is very thick before posting.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: outlawal2 on February 04, 2010, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;541565
Red, I thought I explained what my definition of the term was and the context I used it in.  Why would you keep insisting that your definition must be mine?
OutLawAl, I don't remember asking for any sympathy?  After you've been around for awhile and have read enough threads you either will or you won't see what I'm talking about.


Actually I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but after that response it is quite clear that you have no examples and now just look like you are whining to get attention...   (As for reading threads, and being around "for awhile", I have been here since 8/14/2008... So just exactly how long do I need to be here to make this determination?)

Considering how long I have been here and the threads I have read I don't see what you are talking about and was being kind enough to you to ask for examples.  Kindness did not work so I will resort to the plain truth..

I think you are whining...
 and full of it..
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: dannyp1 on February 04, 2010, 09:02:39 PM
Obviously you haven't seen what I'm talking about.  Didn't I already say that was a possibility?  So your response is to say I'm whining and full of something.  Your Mother it seems raised a very polite person.  Did I attack you or Red?  I don't recall that.  I was polite and curtious.  Just like I would be if we were face to face.  It's funny how brave people become online isn't it?
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Moto on February 04, 2010, 09:12:58 PM
It's actually threads like this that help suck the mojo out of this forum.  

I frequent all those other forums too.  It's all good.  Just be happy and thankful that there are still multiple places that you can go and communicate with other amiga users.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: outlawal2 on February 04, 2010, 09:17:01 PM
Quote from: dannyp1;541573
Obviously you haven't seen what I'm talking about.  Didn't I already say that was a possibility?  So your response is to say I'm whining and full of something.  Your Mother it seems raised a very polite person.  Did I attack you or Red?  I don't recall that.  I was polite and curtious.  Just like I would be if we were face to face.  It's funny how brave people become online isn't it?


Not a matter of bravery, and your point is well taken...
I rescind the entire thing and apologize..

I was simply asking for examples so we could address them as a group. I figured with examples that we could all look at maybe a consensus one way or the other could be met..
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Karlos on February 04, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Seriously, is anybody willing to step up and provide some examples of why they think the moderation here is so bad?

I'm not joking, I've been here for a long time and I have absolutely no idea why people are taking this view.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: tone007 on February 04, 2010, 09:38:46 PM
The moderation here couldn't be better, in my opinion.  The rules are simple and posted for everyone to see, and occasionally a post breaking those simple rules is censored, while probably alot of them go under the radar and are left to die by themselves.  I think people are just bored and looking for something to complain about.

AmiBay, now that's a bunch of fascists.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: ZeBeeDee on February 04, 2010, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: tone007;541582
AmiBay, now that's a bunch of fascists.

I totally agree with you there!
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: tokyoracer on February 04, 2010, 09:59:03 PM
LOL @ tone007 (the video)!
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: marcfrick2112 on February 05, 2010, 02:53:28 AM
Well my 2 cents.... I like both a.org and EAB... Each has its' own niche ....

As for the moderation, I really don't have any issues. I mean the rules are pretty much common sense.  I have run into a few users who have acted like 'wanna-be moderators', even when the actual mods. don't have any issues with a given post.... But, oh well, it happens... I just ignore people like that....

As was mentioned, there are some forums with Very strict moderation. I'm an avid model railroder, so I joined a WorldRailFan forum . It's very safe and family-friendy....You have to use your real name to register + post, explain to the one moderator Why you want to join....all posts are monitored... Everybody's polite, all posts are rated 'G', and it's a Total Bore, not to mention irrepressibly drab and awful. :lol:

So, Amiga.org may not be perfect, but it could be a lot worse.......
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: amigadave on February 05, 2010, 03:17:27 AM
This site is still the best Amiga site on the planet!
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: Gulliver on February 05, 2010, 03:36:59 AM
I will have to disagree on that last statement:

Aminet is still the best Amiga site on the planet! :)
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: motorollin on February 05, 2010, 08:35:15 AM
This place is quite heavy lately, but I don't think it's anything to do with the moderation. It's so rare to see posts being moderated here, and when they are I think it's for legitimate reasons (blatant breaches of posting guidelines or filthy language). There's a horrible atmosphere on this site at the moment, which is mainly being caused by a few members continually diverting innocuous discussions to name-calling matches.

--
moto
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: A4000_Mad on February 05, 2010, 10:07:57 AM
I think you are right moto. I'm sure that the majority of members don't get involved in the verbal punch-ups and are still just here to learn about the Amiga and offer help if they can. I just hope that the great helpers, like yourself and the hard drive expert Thomas, don't get peeed off by it all and leave :(

.
Title: Re: Other Amiga Forums
Post by: jj on February 05, 2010, 10:22:07 AM
I must admit, I have been around this site since about 2000, I know says 2002 , but we lost our accounts twice in some nasty hacking on the site.
 
And if anything, I have noticed over the last few years that the moderation has got a lot more lax.
 
I have also noticed as moto has that there does seem to be an underlying current of distrust, and somtimes even hatred on this site recently.  I undestand where some of this has come from, but where is the love.