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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: jackiabu on February 02, 2010, 03:21:50 PM
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hi
i have cybergarphX v3, and i want to update to
(http://phase5.a1k.org/pix/sp2.gif)(http://phase5.a1k.org/pix/sp2.gif)CyberGraphX Update V4 RC6 from phase5
in this site i dowanload the file,but when i start to install on my wb,he say "please insert the cd rom"
thanks:)
(http://phase5.a1k.org/pix/sp2.gif)(http://phase5.a1k.org/pix/sp2.gif)
(http://phase5.a1k.org/pix/sp2.gif)(http://phase5.a1k.org/pix/sp2.gif)
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Well, yeah, you insert your CyberGraphX v4 CD and the installation continues. The update is for v4, not for v3.
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You can't upgrade from cgfx3 to cgfx4, you need the cgfx4 cd.
The upgrade is well worth it btw, atleast if you're using a bvision card because of the big speedup
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Well, yeah, you insert your CyberGraphX v4 CD and the installation continues. The update is for v4, not for v3.
so where can i get the v4?
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Unfortunately, the CD it is referring to is the commercial CyberGraphX V4 CD. It was sold as a separate package. The V4 RC6 update won't update a V3 installation, only a V4 one.
Requiring people to purchase that V4 update CD really killed the CyberGraphX platform. :-(
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http://www.vesalia.de/e_cgx4.htm
And as i said before, the upgrade is really worth it for Bvision cards, but i have no experience with other gfx cards
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of course if you were to have a cd or an assign with the same volume name as the installer is looking for it would continue and if memory serves me ccorrectly will work also
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well some of the people here act like Hypocrites!!! i'am sorry to say that
but, i dont think at all that the upgarde to v4 is worth the money!
there is a lot of bug, even in v4! and this is not the only problem.of this upgarde.
and lot of the guys here dont buy nothing for the amiga (besides the amiga itself).
so please dont be two faced! i just ask help to dowanload the upgarde v4, NOT to buy it! if i want to buy it i google my self and find where to buy it.
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Did you try what JJ proposed? Not sure exactly what that CD's label is supposed to be called, but that would be a good start.
Along with an A4000 I bought a long time ago, it had the V4 software on it in the form of a separate archive (supposed to be full version). Of course, it's not a simple matter of "installation" as you are running into. I changed it's name and wrote an assign and I still couldn't get it to work after I tried it on another system.
I agree with you though (others will not) that the Cybergrafx software is buggy as hell. I've never liked using it on my various Amiga's at all and always ended up going back to the P96 drivers. They say your mileage may vary, but I have yet to experience a successful and rewarding Cybergrafx installation.
Oh and yeah... this site and most of the members do not advocate piracy of any kind. Especially for products that are current or may currently be bought from a legitimate dealer.
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If you're "Mr. Google" than just google up the V4 to download yourself! Nobody that I read was being "two Faced". They were all trying to help you. I just can't figure out why you want an upgrade that is not "worth the money", has a "lot of bug", and that "is not the only problem". In fact one of the replys told you how to do the upgrade if you were too cheap to purchase the CD.
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i dont think at all that the upgarde to v4 is worth the money!
there is a lot of bug, even in v4! and this is not the only problem.of this upgarde.
Why do you even want it if there are so many problems with it?
i just ask help to dowanload the upgarde v4, NOT to buy it! if i want to buy it i google my self and find where to buy it.
As it is a commercial product you'd better go elsewhere.
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I agree with you though (others will not) that the Cybergrafx software is buggy as hell.
Works pretty good here, but then it did come as part of the OS. Used P96 on my PIV and Amithlon where it worked well enough, but it certainly wasn't flawless.
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I am not advicating piracy as I am not telling anyone how to download. I too would agree that on the whole its a nightmare of RTG system to get working especailly if you got ppc and bvision(which means I believe you are stuck with it)
Just look in the installer script for what volume name its looking for. From memory and this is going back a good few years, it does not need any files from the CD just makes sure you have got the volume. Im pretty sure I just created a cd with that volume name and hey prestty could install v4 upgrades over my legit v3 install.
Probabably was not wise.
Am I correct that p96 does not support bvision ?
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Am I correct that p96 does not support bvision ?
The old m68k version does not, I would imagine the version included in OS4 does.
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ok where can I download OS4 classic then ?
:) :) :) Joking obviously
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If you're "Mr. Google" than just google up the V4 to download yourself! Nobody that I read was being "two Faced". They were all trying to help you. I just can't figure out why you want an upgrade that is not "worth the money", has a "lot of bug", and that "is not the only problem". In fact one of the replys told you how to do the upgrade if you were too cheap to purchase the CD.
well well Mr justice! there is not alternative way isn't?
i dont see any other software besides this crapy software!
or maybe there is. anyway most of my software are ORIGINAL!
including wb3.0 3.1 3.5&3.9,scala,and many more.
but you cant buy all the original software for the amiga! and you know that is true. so you know that i'am right about this one.
so that why i say "Hypocrites" i dont belive you that all of your software or orignial, and me myself dont like piracy! but again you CANT buy all...
maybe if i win the lottery some day,i will buy all the original software for amiga! :rtfm:
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@ jackiabu: is that supposed to be an argument or what?
I myself am rather poor and admit that I pirate some software, but I do so quietly and am ashamed of doing so. You know there are people who if they don't have money they simply don't buy stuff. You, OTOH, admit to be a pirate, but despite this you are arrogant and accuse others of doing the same thing. Way to go...
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@ jackiabu: is that supposed to be an argument or what?
I myself am rather poor and admit that I pirate some software, but I do so quietly and am ashamed of doing so. You know there are people who if they don't have money they simply don't buy stuff. You, OTOH, admit to be a pirate, but despite this you are arrogant and accuse others of doing the same thing. Way to go...
this is not argument. but is just that i'am allergic to Hypocrites!
and i say: most of the peolpe here are good guys and help me.
i dont blame the other. any one can do and say what he want,
and i say my mind. anyway as long there is a "good" guys like you that dont burn cd software this is good and i sleep well! and iam not encouraged piracy! as i say before you just CANT buy all.
or maybe its just me in the all world:lol:
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@jackiabu:
From the Moderation Policy of A.org:
The following types of posts or comments are subject to automatic moderation or deletion without question:
9. Any post or comment involving or advocating the distribution of warez in any way..
And the Posting Guidelines:
Do not post links or requests for warez.
Warez in our definition is illegal software up to and including "abandonware". The exception is if the person is KNOWN to have the legal right to distribute said software. This is not debatable.
'Nuff said.
I probably have an original CGX V4 CD somewhere if you're interested in buying it :D.
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@jackiabu:
From the Moderation Policy of A.org:
And the Posting Guidelines:
'Nuff said.
I probably have an original CGX V4 CD somewhere if you're interested in buying it :D.
yeah whatever...
and No thanks!:) i am all ready download it in the net,and its works fine.
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I agree with you though (others will not) that the Cybergrafx software is buggy as hell. I've never liked using it on my various Amiga's at all and always ended up going back to the P96 drivers. They say your mileage may vary, but I have yet to experience a successful and rewarding Cybergrafx installation.
I experienced a "a successful and rewarding Cybergrafx installation" for many, many years. BUT heres' the rule: if you have phase 5 hardware then use CGX, otherwise use P96. I did try P96 on both a CV64 and a CV64-3D. P96 felt much slower than CGX, the pointer did not move smoothly, dragging icons appeared to flicker, CGX had by far the more convincing Workbench emulation for look and feel. The thing is friends who used P96 didn't even notice those things till we had the screens side by side, one running P96 mine running CGX, but it did annoy them afterwards.
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well some of the people here act like Hypocrites!!! i'am sorry to say that
but, i dont think at all that the upgarde to v4 is worth the money!
there is a lot of bug, even in v4! and this is not the only problem.of this upgarde.
and lot of the guys here dont buy nothing for the amiga (besides the amiga itself).
so please dont be two faced! i just ask help to dowanload the upgarde v4, NOT to buy it! if i want to buy it i google my self and find where to buy it.
First and last warning: Don't use the forum to ask for warez.
FWIW, I bought CGX4 for my machine, it works fine.
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@stefcep2
I have used recent versions of P96 with my CV64 and CV64-3D. The CV64-3D has worked well for quite some time. The performance is much better with P96 in ZorroII mode but comparable with CGFX 4 in ZorroIII mode. P96 performed better on some tests and CGFX on others. The P96 versions got a lot faster with later versions. The early P96 CV64 drivers had problems but so did CGFX 3, but not the CV64 CGFX driver. Anymore, you can use P96 with both CV boards with minimal problems in most cases. There is updated P96 software on the EAB site that was never officially released and fixes some bugs. It's probably worth a try before tracking down a copy of CGFX 4 and forking over some money. It's definately better than CGFX 3.
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yeah whatever...
and No thanks!:) i am all ready download it in the net,and its works fine.
You just lost what little respect I had for you.
While it's true that not all Amiga software can still be purchased, CyberGraphX can (http://www.vesalia.de/e_cgx4.htm), as another member pointed out to you. You're using pirated software because you don't want to pay for it, not because it's commercially unavailable.
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The old m68k version does not, I would imagine the version included in OS4 does.
Correct. I think that an unreleased p96 driver existed for a while in the early OS4 beta days, but it was soon replaced with a ppc version.
The bvision works fine under CGX4. CGX3, on the other hand, less than stellar.
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@stefcep2
I have used recent versions of P96 with my CV64 and CV64-3D. The CV64-3D has worked well for quite some time. The performance is much better with P96 in ZorroII mode but comparable with CGFX 4 in ZorroIII mode. P96 performed better on some tests and CGFX on others. The P96 versions got a lot faster with later versions. The early P96 CV64 drivers had problems but so did CGFX 3, but not the CV64 CGFX driver. Anymore, you can use P96 with both CV boards with minimal problems in most cases. There is updated P96 software on the EAB site that was never officially released and fixes some bugs. It's probably worth a try before tracking down a copy of CGFX 4 and forking over some money. It's definately better than CGFX 3.
I did purchase a copy of CGX4. I still have it, but sadly my A4000 doesn't boot anymore. I used p96 v2.1(?) but CGX4 was the more convincing of a real amiga due to its smoother way it moves the mouse pointer, and the way icon dragging did not flicker. Also menus dropped down faster. Painting with TV paint and Photogenics seemed smoother and faster. The other important thing for me was that i could overclock my CV64, and it had very good support for the Roxxler chip, which let me move and rotate in real time wireframes views of 3d models in Cinema 4d very quickly and smoothly. I did try p96 about 12 months ago but went back to CGX4 because it "felt" more authentically Amiga.
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I bought CyberGraphX V4, and it was well worth the money.
BTW while CGX 68k might be dead, CGX is well and alive in MorphOS. It still beats the s**t out of Picasso96, too.
@jackiabu
CyberGraphX V4 is still easily available, so your comments are just bs justification for your piracy. It's your choice but keep it out of amiga.org thank you.
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UPDATE: this is whats needed in MORPH OS and OS4.0,i don't know how many of you have tryed to overclocked the Bvision,but here on my system it's overclocked as standard from 83Mhz to 100Mhz in software.
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UPDATE: this is whats needed in MORPH OS and OS4.0,i don't know how many of you have tryed to overclocked the Bvision,but here on my system it's overclocked as standard from 83Mhz to 100Mhz in software.
Uh what? MorphOS includes CyberGraphX as integrated component. You don't need CyberGraphX V4.
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Uh what? MorphOS includes CyberGraphX as integrated component. You don't need CyberGraphX V4.
sorry let me make it clear. im taking about **overclocking** GFX cards under CyberGraphX and P96
overclocking was added to CyberGraphX in one of it's update(s),i don't know if it's still in there in MORPH OS but iv never heard of anyone overclocking the Bvision card under MORPH OS so im guessing it's not in there (please correct me here if im wrong).
here on my system under OS3.9 iv found the problem so im able to overclock the Bvision card to the full 100Mhz (new world record for Bvision),here again i never heard of anyone overclocking GFX card (Bvision) over 92Mhz under OS3.9.
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I think both had their drawbacks. A few comments regarding PIV and CV3D:
1 Workbench is obviously faster with P96, verifiable by benchmarks
2 CGX specific things, like most RTG demos, are nicer (smoother, better framerate) with CGX, even on the PIV
3 CGX emulation in P96 is broken on the CV3D in Z2 mode (no problem with Z3)
4 The CGX MEMCLOCK tooltype does _nothing_ on the PIV :P
I would prefer to use cgx due to #2, but the rather horrible/sluggish WB experience means I generally don't. I spent many hours fiddling with the tooltypes and env-variables (kept thinking "I must be overlooking something!!") to no avail.
BTW while CGX 68k might be dead, CGX is well and alive in MorphOS. It still beats the s**t out of Picasso96, too.
I can't comment on MorphOS CGX, as the last time I used it was years ago on 1.4. At the time, I ran some graphics benchmarks between my lowly G3 Pegasos and (then totally sweet) overclocked Athlon XP-M rig with WinUAE/P96... MorphOS/CGX was surprisingly faster, and not just a little.
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You just put a tooltype in to the overclocking. Cant remeber what it was , but you it was a sentence backwards, somkething like let me melt my bivison
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smf wrote:
http://www.vesalia.de/e_cgx4.htm
And as i said before, the upgrade is really worth it for Bvision cards, but i have no experience with other gfx cards
jackiabu wrote:
but you cant buy all the original software for the amiga! and you know that is true. so you know that i'am right about this one.
so that why i say "Hypocrites" i dont belive you that all of your software or orignial, and me myself dont like piracy! but again you CANT buy all
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iam not encouraged piracy! as i say before you just CANT buy all
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i am all ready download it in the net,and its works fine
Pfft :lol:
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moto
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overclocking was added to CyberGraphX in one of it's update(s),i don't know if it's still in there in MORPH OS but iv never heard of anyone overclocking the Bvision card under MORPH OS so im guessing it's not in there (please correct me here if im wrong).
you are wrong.
MorphOS CGX had it as soon as 68k.
I OCd my bvision under MorphOS.
here again i never heard of anyone overclocking GFX card (Bvision) over 92Mhz under OS3.9.
I ran mine at 97.
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@ Piru
What was the tootlype to allow overclocking I have forgoten ?
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IINSTALLEDAFANONMYPERMEDIA2 (backwards) = YES
MELTDOWN = N (speed in MHz)
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thanks i knew it was backwards and there was connection to melted :)