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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: amiga1260 on January 30, 2010, 09:48:03 PM

Title: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: amiga1260 on January 30, 2010, 09:48:03 PM
What are the advantages with a kickstart switcher between relokick disk except having more memory free?
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: amigakit on January 30, 2010, 09:59:05 PM
Not all patches/software work with Relokick.

An Automatic Kickstart ROM Switcher (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=947) is very convenient, quick and easy to use, hold down Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga for more than 5 seconds and the alternative ROM is switched on.
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: dougal on January 30, 2010, 10:06:50 PM
Quote from: amigakit;540792
Not all patches/software work with Relokick.

An Automatic Kickstart ROM Switcher (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=947) is very convenient, quick and easy to use, hold down Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga for more than 5 seconds and the alternative ROM is switched on.


Agreed.. I have one in my A500 and its great.

Shame they dont exsist for the a1200/a4000
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: amiga1260 on January 31, 2010, 08:17:56 AM
Could you give me one particulary program that doesn't work with Relokick?

@Amigakit: Does this Kickstart rom switcher have some spacers or some isolation piece to prevent short circuit?

I want to put one in an A600.
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: amigakit on January 31, 2010, 10:29:05 AM
An example would be: Half n Half - a patch to split chip ram into chip+slow for compatibility with games.

Yes it has a plastic insulation layer
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: Tension on January 31, 2010, 10:41:09 AM
Any games that don`t work with relokick?
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: amigakit on January 31, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
Well yes, there are some older A500 game titles that require both slow memory and chip memory as well as older Kickstart.

The stock Amiga 600 has just chip memory.

As has already been stated in this thread,  if the game requires full 1MB of RAM, this will be a problem on a stock A600 as Relokick takes away memory available to the system.
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: dougal on January 31, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
I have never encountered any problems using relokick in the past but Amigakit does have a point about the kickstart taking up memory from the 1mb chip ram.
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: Tension on January 31, 2010, 01:04:04 PM
Is it possible to flash an old kickstart (or custom one) onto a Deneb?
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: runequester on February 01, 2010, 12:07:38 AM
Back in the day, relokick would sometimes cause the game to crash after a certain amount of time, but it could have been dodgy disks rather than relokick specifically
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: platon42 on February 01, 2010, 12:25:43 AM
Quote from: Tension;540841
Is it possible to flash an old kickstart (or custom one) onto a Deneb?


256 KB kickstarts (OS 1.x) are unsupported and I don't know what happens when you try to flash a 2.0 kickstart. Any 3.x kickstart including custom kickstarts will work.
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: countzero on February 01, 2010, 03:35:52 AM
the biggest advantage of a kickswitch over relokick is, you don't have to wait for the kickstart to load. suppose you're going to play a 1.3 game 100 times in your life time. if we assume relokick loading time as approximately 1 minute, you're buying 100 minutes of your life for 20 euros. if you're a gamer it may be even more.
Title: Re: Advantages of a kickstart switcher
Post by: amigakit on February 04, 2010, 09:07:03 PM
We have recorded a video of the Kickstart ROM switcher being used within an A600:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=947