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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: nishtek on January 24, 2010, 06:59:49 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190366736973
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$375, nice price
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He could never get a bidding war going because the reserve was too high. I've always thought that you are better off selling this type of item as a Buy-It-Now if you're going to have a sky-high reserve.
That was one thing with ReDrum's auctions of desirable items. He almost always started them at .99 with no reserve and he almost always did real well with the amount they sold for. (As a added bonus the listing fee was cheaper because of the low starting price)
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Sold one of my two TekMagic 060's w/128mb RAM installed almost two years ago for $385 + shipping. It is a great card, one of the best for the A2000 since the DKB WildFire A2000 accelerators are so rare.
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Hello,
The board is worth $600 at least. Softhut sells theirs for $489 plus $120 for compatible RAM = $609. And they don't even have it all tested the way they should. This is my 2nd tekmagic board, so I have pretty good experience with this.
All RAM has been fully tested on PC before being deployed to A2000's Tekmagic board.
There's a custom rom and hard disk included and for those interested, you can buy the Amiga 2000 motherboard with it as well. So you get it as complete unit. I tested this board with Picasso graphics card and Ariadne 2.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190370212523
And since you were the highest bidder you should be aware that this board won't be sold for just a mere $375. The $375 is not enough for TekMagic 68060 in any timeline. (The 68040 by GVP is worth at least $200, the 68030 is worth $125-150 in my opinion. The tekmagic 060 is in a different ball park than those boards and its a different thing alltogether in terms of performance). Complaining about the price won't make me lower the price, because I know what this is worth. I will wait for the right buyer who appreciates what is available in this deal. But heck, I did complain about price of Amiga One and other amiga machines in the past when they were released into the market (A2000 cost $1500-2000 when released) so I completely understand your concerns. Amiga is not for everyone, only the "dedicated amiga freaks".
He could never get a bidding war going because the reserve was too high. I've always thought that you are better off selling this type of item as a Buy-It-Now if you're going to have a sky-high reserve.
That was one thing with ReDrum's auctions of desirable items. He almost always started them at .99 with no reserve and he almost always did real well with the amount they sold for. (As a added bonus the listing fee was cheaper because of the low starting price)
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It's a 68060, a pentium 1 equivalent and therefore worth the same : $0. People please, stop burning money. Spend it on the homeless if you can't stand to have it.
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@Hell Labs: As for an '060 being equal to a pentium 1, I dunno... I think I remember the '060 being just a bit faster than a P1.... (of course, what clock speeds are we comparing?) and if it's one of the first P1's, didn't they have major bugs? (Q: How many Computer Engineers does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: 1.99959087342 , but that's close enough for most people .... )
But, I agree with your statement about ' spend it on the homeless ' . In my city, less than 2 blocks from where I live, there are maybe 100 homeless people 'living' under a bridge....
I just hope I get to the point where I can't stand to have money.....
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Just ask freescale for an engineering sample of 68060. They'll probably send you several, for free. Of course, you need something to plug them into.
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It's a 68060, a pentium 1 equivalent and therefore worth the same : $0. People please, stop burning money. Spend it on the homeless if you can't stand to have it.
But the auction isn't for a 68060, it's for a card that happens to have a 68060 on it, which is worth a darn sight more.
Amiga owners must surely be aware by now that just because an Amiga component is similar spec to a PC component that's 5 million times more common, doesn't mean the Amiga component is worth the same?
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Amiga owners must surely be aware by now that just because an Amiga component is similar spec to a PC component that's 5 million times more common, doesn't mean the Amiga component is worth the same?
Hell Labs isn't an Amiga owner, he's just sad because he can't afford one and so is of the opinion they should be given away.
It's kind of funny, in one of his posts you've got "Amigas suck and aren't worth anything" and in another "I hope there are still 4000T's available when I can afford one."
Children, so mercurial!
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Hell Labs isn't an Amiga owner, he's just sad because he can't afford one and so is of the opinion they should be given away.
It's kind of funny, in one of his posts you've got "Amigas suck and aren't worth anything" and in another "I hope there are still 4000T's available when I can afford one."
Children, so mercurial!
Actually, I have an amiga 500, and an efika. Just face up to the fact that this is old, old, old tech that's only useful today as a games console (and copying data from old to new systems), and therefore only worth the same as a games console. I payed £10 for my snes. A 68060 on a pcb isn't worth anything to anyone other than nutters. if you need the performance that much you'd pay $$$, just use winuae and have something many times faster on a low end netbook.
The amiga market is a joke.
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But the auction isn't for a 68060, it's for a card that happens to have a 68060 on it, which is worth a darn sight more.
Amiga owners must surely be aware by now that just because an Amiga component is similar spec to a PC component that's 5 million times more common, doesn't mean the Amiga component is worth the same?
I have a P1 on a card, perhaps that's worth a lot of money too?
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The value of anything is equal to what the market will bear.
Disagreeing with the market valuation doesn't make the market wrong.
That being said the market is a fickle mistress and can turn on you at the drop of a hat.
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As a comparison I picked up a pentium III 733mhz for $10 three years ago. That was a 'classic' hardware purchase.
In fairness, the 060 cards have always been expensive. My 68040 card was dirt cheap in comparison.
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Supply and demand=market value.
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I have a P1 on a card, perhaps that's worth a lot of money too?
Perhaps it is. If it's an SBC then it could be worth a fair amount, as supply is low and demand is moderate.
If, however, you're just trying to say that a P1 on an accelerator card is the same as an Amiga accelerator card, then I'd strongly suggest reading up on basic economics....
Supply of Amiga card = very low. Demand for Amiga card which is fastest CISC Amiga CPU - very high.
Supply of PC card = very high. Demand for PC card which is horrendously slow compared to fastest CPU - very low.
Now which of the above do you think is worth more money?
It's kind of like saying an Aston Martin DB4 is worth no money because it's slower than a Golf GTi (which it is, more or less). Try going to an Aston owner and offering him a grand for his DB4 and see the response.
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I believe my bid was a bit higher than $375 but your reserve was so high that it didn't matter. Nobody else would bid higher so my bid didn't matter which was my point. It wasn't that the board wasn't worth what you were asking, it was that you had it listed in such a way that you couldn't get the amount you wanted. $600 is really getting close to Top Dollar for a TekMagic. To get that amount you need more than one person wanting it bad at that moment (and the stars must be perfectly aligned). You didn't have that. You didn't even have one as my interest in it was as a back-up as I already own one. I bought mine on EBay probably a little over a year ago and it come in an A2000 with a graphics card, ram card, etc. It also came with a ton of software, a keyboard and mouse, and two monitors. I think I paid around $400 plus shipping. I saw an A2000 on EBay about a year ago with a WildFire card and I think the guy wanted $600 and it didn't sell. That having been said I saw a Conceirto sound card sell about a month ago for $315!! So anything is possible. That card usually sells for $150 tops.
I hope you get the amount you want for your TekMagic. I know I like to get top dollar when I sell things. Everybody does! I just think that if you want to get $600 for it it would have a better chance of selling for that if you started it at .99, or if you put a buy-it-now price of $600 on it. Everybody likes to know that when they place a bid that it counts for something. In a high-reserve auction many bids are meaningless.
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I'd actually say demand for an old pentium is higher. A very small amount of todays computer users ever used amigas for anything other than a games console, and the total number of computer users in 1994 is a mere fraction of today. One person i've spoke to was very surprised his A500 was actually a computer. He was actually wondering why they put a keyboard on it "when none of the games used it". He was also surprised it came with a mouse.
In comparison, a few of my friends use pentium 1/windows 98/crt monitor setups even today. That way they save to money thats better spent on beer and guitars and things, and they can run modern web browsers and word processors to boot.
The daft cost of accelerator cards or the amiga market is quite simply, dumb. These systems are far outclassed in ability and ease of use by even the most crap celeron system, the one thing that they are actually useful for is games. Remember, £10 snes.
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I'd actually say demand for an old pentium is higher. A very small amount of todays computer users ever used amigas for anything other than a games console, and the total number of computer users in 1994 is a mere fraction of today. One person i've spoke to was very surprised his A500 was actually a computer. He was actually wondering why they put a keyboard on it "when none of the games used it". He was also surprised it came with a mouse.
In comparison, a few of my friends use pentium 1/windows 98/crt monitor setups even today. That way they save to money thats better spent on beer and guitars and things, and they can run modern web browsers and word processors to boot.
The daft cost of accelerator cards or the amiga market is quite simply, dumb. These systems are far outclassed in ability and ease of use by even the most crap celeron system, the one thing that they are actually useful for is games. Remember, £10 snes.
Are you actually being serious are are you just trying to wind people up ????
Whilst the Amiga market is probably over-priced , it is what it is.
And there are millions and millions of pentiums, mobos and pentium 1 cards out there. There are wworht f all. I have re-cycled so many its not funny. Only an idiot would pay for a pentrium 1 card/chip/mobo
There are probably 1 or 2 thousand working 060 cards out there. mmmmmmmmm let me think how does supply and demand work again.
I wonder why things made out of gold or platinium or so expenisve compared to things made out of iron.