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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Eric_Fresh on January 12, 2010, 03:12:19 AM
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Hi, forgive me if this has been asked and answered before but I am returning to the Amiga after a long time. I have a A500+/WB 3.1 no HD and I'd like to download some demos with my PC and run them on the Amiga can someone point me in the right direction?
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Look up Amiga Explorer (Amiga Forever`s AExplorer) with a null-modem serial cable
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I found the Hombre disk to be extremely well featured for transferring data and writing back ADF images from a PC to an Amiga. If someone in your country with an Amiga could download Hombre and write it to a floppy disk for you, you'll be set. You'll only need a PC with either a floppy drive, a null modem (serial) cable, or a laplink (parallel) cable to transfer the data to your Amiga.
I'm in Australia so postage from here to anywhere else in the world generally takes longer than it does from anywhere else (except maybe New Zealand), but I can send you the disk if no one closer is able to.
For anyone who can write Amiga floppy disks and wants a complete transfer package for easily writing all those ADFs on your PC's hard drive back to your Amiga floppies, this is the package to get: http://wiki.abime.net/transfer:hombre
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Thanks guys! I was just going through my box of disks and found CrossDos 4.01 but it needs a hard drive to install. I think I have a null modem cable around here somewhere but won't I need a client on the Amiga side like Cammy was suggesting? If so does someone in the US have that software?
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Are there any Amiga users in the United States who can download this ADF, write it to a floppy disk, and mail it to our new friend?
http://wiki.abime.net/transfer:hombre
All the software contained on the disk is freely distributable, so there's no need to feel like a guilty pirate. ;)
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AmigaKit sells ADF transfer kit, not sure though if you'd perhaps want a HD install to make the most of it. Check it out with them.
But also, Amiga Explorer which is mentioned here is good. It's part of the Amiga Forever package which is an amiga owner essential.
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I found a null modem cable, but to my dismay my home built PC doesn't have serial or Parall ports because I never tought I'd use them. Oh well, I'll look on Ebay...but the way thanks for the amiga forever tip, I got think client side for the pc I think.
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Found one on Ebay for $10 shipped buy it now oh yeah
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Use PC2Amiga and a null modem cable
http://aminet.net/package.php?package=comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha
It works perfectly.
Good luck!!
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You can read 720k PC formatted floppies in your 500, I think all you need is Workbench 2 or higher. Insert disk, double click the PC0 icon whereever it's hiding (DOSdrivers or something) and you should be all set.
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You can read 720k PC formatted floppies in your 500, I think all you need is Workbench 2 or higher. Insert disk, double click the PC0 icon whereever it's hiding (DOSdrivers or something) and you should be all set.
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I also am trying to transfer files from my pc to my Amiga 4000 with no luck. I have tried Amiga Explorer (trial), but cannot get it to connect. I don't want to buy it unless I know it works. Cloanto says that you can use just the pc side software and it will load necessary files the first time it connects (via serial) to the Amiga, but it also says the trial version is limited to files of 1K only. I suspect this to be my problem. I have verified the pinouts on my null modem cable and tried connecting with XP and Vista (virus and FW turned off). If I have room inside the 4000, should I get a network card for my Amiga? If so, any recommendations?
Amiga 4000, WB3.0, Toaster 4000, Kitchen Sync w/S-Video Card, 20Mb HD and 120MB HD. I also have an Amiga 500, bone stock.
Thanks in advance.
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I also am trying to transfer files from my pc to my Amiga 4000 with no luck. I have tried Amiga Explorer (trial), but cannot get it to connect. I don't want to buy it unless I know it works. Cloanto says that you can use just the pc side software and it will load necessary files the first time it connects (via serial) to the Amiga, but it also says the trial version is limited to files of 1K only. I suspect this to be my problem. I have verified the pinouts on my null modem cable and tried connecting with XP and Vista (virus and FW turned off). If I have room inside the 4000, should I get a network card for my Amiga? If so, any recommendations?
Amiga 4000, WB3.0, Toaster 4000, Kitchen Sync w/S-Video Card, 20Mb HD and 120MB HD. I also have an Amiga 500, bone stock.
Thanks in advance.
Did you right click the Icon on the Windows side and run the Setup?
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I also am trying to transfer files from my pc to my Amiga 4000 with no luck.
Most A4000's have a High density disk drive, so you should be able to read HD floppy drives from a PC (1.44MB disks). This should be enaugh to get adf files as well, as they are always less than 1MB in size. As adviced before in this thread, locate the PC0 (probably in storage/dosdrivers) and run it. You should get a PC0 icon on the workbench as soon as you insert a disk.
You could get a network card, but if its only for transfering som files it will be expensive. I think it would be cheaper to get a IDE-CDROM drive and connect it to your IDE interface. And then burn the all the files you want to a CD and get them from there. You must probably disconnect one of your HD's while you do this. But if you need the space you should probably try to locate another bigger HD anyway. People throw HDs like that away anyway so it shouldnt cost you much, if anything.
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Did you right click the Icon on the Windows side and run the Setup?
I guess FTD (follow the directions) or FTFD in this case would have been appropriate. Worked like a champ. Thank you so much, mbueler!
I will also follow amyren's advice for copying data via a floppy from pc to Amiga as I would like to be able to do that (but haven't been able to).
I was hoping, for reliability, to replace the hard drives in the Amiga with a CF card. Now that I can transfer files, I will reread the forums on how to prep that card for the different partitions needed.
Thanks again!
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I use ADF Sender on my laptop and transwarp on the Amiga.
All you need to get started is a Workbench disk with the "type" command (all should have that I believe).
The info is here:
http://adfsender.stoeggl.com/adfsenderterminal/methods.html
I used method A2 and it worked like a dream.
Some caveats for me at least.
I need to format the floppy on the Amiga first, or I get errors on the transfer.
I can't go over 19,200 BPS reliably. Haven't tried it with the 1200 I just got, but that works for my 500. (Could be my USB serial port on my laptop which is slow as well.)
(baudbandit.device didn't hurt, but didn't help either)
Use only DSDD floppies. High Density might work if you cover the tab, but it's hit or miss...
desiv
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For my 68000 Amigas using Cloanto's Amiga Explorer I replaced the serial.device with BaudBandit.device to be able to run @38400kbps.
On the A600 I'm using a Whippet (http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/cgi-bin/showhardware_en.cgi?HARDID=603), on the desktop A1200 an internal Port Plus Junior (http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/cgi-bin/showhardware_en.cgi?HARDID=620) or a PCMCIA NIC or wifi.
On A2000 a PC bridgeboard and an ancient 3COM ISA Ethernet.
On the 1200T just the PCI ethernet. :D
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Using PCMCIA and amiga explorer here. Fast, but not always connecting the first time I run it. On the Amiga side you only need the Amiga Explorer executable. But like has been said, you need to edit its tooltypes first and match them with the settings on the pc side (most notably transfer rate and password).
The stuff that Cammy is suggesting should work fine, too. I guess that will be the easiest/fastest method.
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For my 68000 Amigas using Cloanto's Amiga Explorer I replaced the serial.device with BaudBandit.device to be able to run @38400kbps.
On the A600 I'm using a Whippet (http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/cgi-bin/showhardware_en.cgi?HARDID=603), on the desktop A1200 an internal Port Plus Junior (http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/cgi-bin/showhardware_en.cgi?HARDID=620) or a PCMCIA NIC or wifi.
On A2000 a PC bridgeboard and an ancient 3COM ISA Ethernet.
On the 1200T just the PCI ethernet. :D
How well does that work with the ISA Ethernet in the A2000? I have a 286 Bridgeboard in my A2000... Are there any specific requirements for the ISA Ethernet card? Can you access PC drives from the Amiga, and visa versa? Can you get online with the Amiga?
I have a GVP 040 in my A2000, and it has a high speed serial port on it, so I'm using Amiga Exlorer at 115,200 right now. It's not horribly painful at that speed. But it's still too slow, and I don't like the fact that I can't access the PC drives from the Amiga.
I haven't tried connecting my A1200. I would love to get one of my Miggy's online...
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I found a null modem cable, but to my dismay my home built PC doesn't have serial or Parall ports because I never tought I'd use them. Oh well, I'll look on Ebay...but the way thanks for the amiga forever tip, I got think client side for the pc I think.
I think they make USB to dbn-9 adapters, though a USB to rs-232 might be more convenient depending on how your null-modem is wired. (9-pin to 25 pin adapters are pretty cheap, Radio Shack used to have them). Also, if you wanted to upgrade that thing, the biggest probs. you might have are finding HD controllers and CPU upgrades. Memory could be an issue, too. Thrift shops otherwise have alot of older electronics that are compatible. St. Vincents not so much, but you get lucky sometimes. Goodwill is a better bet. (I once found an A500 w/ GVP SCSI sidecar at Vinnies!) As for transferring files, you will probably have to LHA the .adf file to xfer via floppy. The 500 can only read 720K pc floppies, while ADF's are (I believe) uncompressed and will take 880K of space. zipitfast (http://www.zipitfast.com/) supports LHA in windows, the Amiga version of LHA is available on Aminet, I believe. You'll have to either use a DD floppy, or put scotch tape over the second hole in an HD foppy (which isn't terribly reliable, but should work fine for temporary purposes). PC-Side, you probably would have better luck using format via command prompt. (format a: /S720 would format a DD MS-Dos disk, especially if you use the scotch tape trick) Then you just need a proggy that dumps an adf file to df0: (with a blank disk in df0:, of course)
While I'm in the US, and really just north of the border, I'm also a considerable distance west. (I make cigarette runs to Orangeville all the time, as Wisconsin is taxing the HELL out of 'em up here) Probably not a convenient situation for running "sneakernet" (And I HATE driving in Chicago, anyway. My wife doesn't, but I lost my blindfold...)
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Use PC2Amiga and a null modem cable
http://aminet.net/package.php?package=comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha
It works perfectly.
Good luck!!
Does this work with a modern Windows like W7? Anyone know.... ???
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Does this work with a modern Windows like W7? Anyone know.... ???
pc2amiga is best solution, way better than Amiga Explorer. but, IIRC it wouldn't work in windowsXP, let alone win7. perhaps it might work in some compatibility mode, or in win98 with virtualbox.
you can get excellent speeds with (custom) parallel cable. just make sure pinout is correct and keep in mind that some cable versions are not 'symmetrical'
oh, and it requires KS2+
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Use PC2Amiga and a null modem cable
http://aminet.net/package.php?package=comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha
I was going to suggest exactly that. I used it a lot.
I used a paralell cable instead of the null modem, it's faster (that is, less slower). But for now, try the null modem cable.