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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga community support ideas => Topic started by: palemoon on January 04, 2010, 09:55:24 PM

Title: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 04, 2010, 09:55:24 PM
First, my apologies to staff if this post is in the wrong place or not allowed. Please feel free to move it.

Being a long time Amiga user, owner, supporter, and developer...I decided it was time for Amiga to have a pure Social Site. I know that this site and others like it are more or less a social community. But, I thought we could use something different.

My site Dragon's Moon (http://dragonpalemoon.com) is totally free (Ad Free too). It has similar features to facebook. Members are free to join or create groups, have mini-blogs, and more. I will be adding more features to the site over the next few days.

Try it out, and I'm open to any suggestions on how to make it better.

Thanks!
Ed
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: Tension on January 05, 2010, 12:49:34 AM
Hmmm...
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: save2600 on January 05, 2010, 12:54:27 AM
Pretty slick looking but OY! Another user name and password to keep track of?!?  lol  

Why weren't people content with Usenet? Oh yeah, because the next generation of geeks were on mind altering drugs (anti-depressants for starters) and were "diagnosed" with having ADD. That and Google came along and ruined everything. :(  

Is your new Amiga social site compatible with legacy Amiga hardware and software? AWeb, Ibrowse, etc? Be very nice if it were since the site looks so neat and clean as it is...
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 01:01:05 AM
Quote from: Tension;536388
Hmmm...

???
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 01:10:21 AM
Quote from: save2600;536390
Pretty slick looking but OY! Another user name and password to keep track of?!?  lol  

Why weren't people content with Usenet? Oh yeah, because the next generation of geeks were on mind altering drugs (anti-depressants for starters) and were "diagnosed" with having ADD. That and Google came along and ruined everything. :(  

Is your new Amiga social site compatible with legacy Amiga hardware and software? AWeb, Ibrowse, etc? Be very nice if it were since the site looks so neat and clean as it is...

Actually I was happy with CNet or Zeus back in the day! I think I still have my Zeus discs somewhere.

Well, to be honest, I'm not sure how it looks on legacy Amiga. Sadly, I no longer have my A3000T. I'm still looking for a new (used) one...hint hint. :) But it does use Javascript / Ajax so I'm not sure how well that works on legacy stuff these days.

I'm trying to port some old legacy stuff over to AROS at the moment, but I would love to have an A3000T again! I was one of the 4 devs on the game Invasion Force (some of you may remember) and did the whole Amiga developer thing with the TAO/Intent stuff (AD-115 was/is me).

Thanks for taking the time to look at the site!

Ed
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: Cammy on January 05, 2010, 01:36:56 AM
Nice idea, but the site doesn't work properly in IBrowse or AWeb :(
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: tone007 on January 05, 2010, 01:37:52 AM
Quote from: palemoon;536399
Sadly, I no longer have my A3000T. I'm still looking for a new (used) one...hint hint. :)

...

but I would love to have an A3000T again!


I've got a nice one, make me an offer!
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: save2600 on January 05, 2010, 01:40:47 AM
Thanks for checking Cammy!

Hmmm... not the end of the world obviously, but I just had a conversation with a friend that makes his living programming PHPBB and told him about the server "upgrade" that took place on this site and the negative effects said upgrade had on legacy machines. Well, he swore up and down that there's absolutely no reason why this site couldn't be more Amiga browser friendly - that all that was needed, were cosmetic tweaks to the HTMLx (4 or did he say 7?). Anyway, he agreed 'that' in itself could be somewhat of a project, which is why Wayne didn't bugger to tweak since less than 6% of us actually use A.org on their machines.

I may be in the minority here, but it *would* be nice to have another Amiga social site be fully compatible with our machines. An Amiga site compatible with Amiga's? Guess that's just too much to ask for in the new millennia  :(  Might start Twittering on my C64 instead, just because...  lmao!
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 01:41:18 AM
Quote from: Cammy;536408
Nice idea, but the site doesn't work properly in IBrowse or AWeb :(

I figured as such. I'm pretty such it's the Ajax bits. I believe I can turn those off. I will look into it.

Thanks for letting me know! :)
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 01:42:44 AM
Quote from: tone007;536409
I've got a nice one, make me an offer!

Specs, Rev. etc.???
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: tone007 on January 05, 2010, 01:45:22 AM
It's got all the good chips, 3.1 ROMs, maxed out RAM on the board, CV64, ethernet, and optionally a CSMKII '060 with 128MB of RAM. (SCSI card and all, though I haven't used the CS SCSI in it yet.)
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 01:45:41 AM
Quote from: save2600;536411
I may be in the minority here, but it *would* be nice to have another Amiga social site be fully compatible with our machines. An Amiga site compatible with Amiga's? Guess that's just too much to ask for in the new millennia  :(  Might start Twittering on my C64 instead, just because...  lmao!

I agree! I actually make a living doing web development (and a little hardware / software stuff here and there.). So, I will look into making it compatible with legacy Amiga. I've been on Linux for the past 3+ years, so give me a bit to get back up to Amiga speed.

Thanks again!
Ed
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: save2600 on January 05, 2010, 01:49:27 AM
Cool, Ed - thanks! I'd think that would be a good "selling" point for your site, despite all the competition.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: CSixx on January 05, 2010, 01:49:42 AM
Sorry but I don't see the point.
Whats the draw to your site over Facebook, A.org, AW.net, EAB?
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: Cammy on January 05, 2010, 01:50:30 AM
If you'd like an example of a social networking website that is very compatible with Amiga browsers, check out http://www.comicspace.com . It uses HTML to lay everything out, and only minimal CSS for a few extra cosmetic enhancements. The reason most modern sites don't work well in IBrowse or AWeb is because they use CSS for everything, and our browsers don't recognise CSS yet.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 01:51:31 AM
Quote from: tone007;536415
It's got all the good chips, 3.1 ROMs, maxed out RAM on the board, CV64, ethernet, and optionally a CSMKII '060 with 128MB of RAM. (SCSI card and all, though I haven't used the CS SCSI in it yet.)

Sweet! Hard drive? Floppy? Optical drive (CD)? Keyboard / mouse? And just being picky...front face clips intact? (I broke mine in the past).  And this is a real A3000T (T as in Tower) and not a regular A3000 thrown in a PC tower case right? ;)

Oh, and I see you are in the USA too...even sweeter! :)
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: Cammy on January 05, 2010, 01:52:11 AM
Also if you'd like to check how everything would work on a real Amiga without having to buy a whole machine, you should try one of the pre-installed Workbench/Amiga emulkation packages like AmigaSys, AmiKit or ClassicWB. You'll need Amiga Forever to legally use them unless you can get the ROM images from a real Amiga.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 01:55:39 AM
Quote from: Cammy;536419
If you'd like an example of a social networking website that is very compatible with Amiga browsers, check out www.comicspace.com (http://www.comicspace.com) . It uses HTML to lay everything out, and only minimal CSS for a few extra cosmetic enhancements. The reason most modern sites don't work well in IBrowse or AWeb is because they use CSS for everything, and our browsers don't recognise CSS yet.

Thanks for that link Cammy! It would take a major re-write of the site, but I've got some free time, so... :)
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: tone007 on January 05, 2010, 01:56:54 AM
Quote from: palemoon;536420
Sweet! Hard drive? Floppy? Optical drive (CD)? Keyboard / mouse? And just being picky...front face clips intact? (I broke mine in the past).  And this is a real A3000T (T as in Tower) and not a regular A3000 thrown in a PC tower case right? ;)

Oh, and I see you are in the USA too...even sweeter! :)


One floppy drive (never got around to installing the spare I have lying around, I think it looks better with one floppy drive myself,) and I've only used external CD drives with it.  Front face is in good shape, nothing broken.  I think there's a 4gb drive in it, original A3000 keyboard and "pregnant" mouse for the tower (longer cord.)  The only non-Amiga part is the power supply, which was replaced with a newer AT one (installed into the case of the old PSU.)

Oh, and yes, real A3000T.  http://jungle.net/tone/siblingrivalry.jpg (only pic I have of it currently.)
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: save2600 on January 05, 2010, 01:57:26 AM
Quote from: CSixx;536418
Sorry but I don't see the point.
Whats the draw to your site over Facebook, A.org, AW.net, EAB?

Umm... Amiga-minded folks and compatibility with Amiga computers, how's that for irony?  :lol:
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 02:00:16 AM
Quote from: CSixx;536418
Sorry but I don't see the point.
Whats the draw to your site over Facebook, A.org, AW.net, EAB?

Well, the same could be said about the tons of sites already out there. But, I was just looking for something different. And Microsoft owns part of Facebook so...

I'm not looking to change the world here. I am currently in the USA and most of the Amiga action happens outside of the USA. I just thought I could add something to the USA side of the Amiga house.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 02:04:06 AM
Quote from: tone007;536424
One floppy drive (never got around to installing the spare I have lying around, I think it looks better with one floppy drive myself,) and I've only used external CD drives with it.  Front face is in good shape, nothing broken.  I think there's a 4gb drive in it, original A3000 keyboard and "pregnant" mouse for the tower (longer cord.)  The only non-Amiga part is the power supply, which was replaced with a newer AT one (installed into the case of the old PSU.)

Oh, and yes, real A3000T.  http://jungle.net/tone/siblingrivalry.jpg (only pic I have of it currently.)

It's strange seeing it in beige color (I had painted my old one black).

I think you need a couple of more computers in that pic. :)

Off to send you a PM.

Thanks,
Ed
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: CSixx on January 05, 2010, 02:19:50 AM
Quote from: palemoon;536427
And Microsoft owns part of Facebook so....

Oh, one of those types... Carry on.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: save2600 on January 05, 2010, 02:23:13 AM
Quote from: CSixx;536431
Oh, one of those types... Carry on.

Hey now! Not everyone wants to live under tyranny, forced to deal with inferior products and fewer choices thanks to monopolies and a crooked government. Whoops! Too late  :(  Carry on...  lol
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 02:43:21 AM
Quote from: CSixx;536431
Oh, one of those types... Carry on.

Well, since you are practically neighbors with MS, I can see why you would make such comments. I am not one to start flame wars. I really don't care what products other people use or support, it's their choice. And I don't expect anyone to care what I use or support...it's my choice.

Having worked for MS in the past, I saw their tactics first hand. So, 3+ years ago I decided to no longer support them. Why is this a problem for so many people? There are other companies with similar tactics and I don't support them either.

And yes, I know MS did Amiga Basic back in the day.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: save2600 on January 05, 2010, 02:45:11 AM
nothing to see here
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: CSixx on January 05, 2010, 02:49:23 AM
Don't let your thread go off on a tangent, derailing you is not my intent.

Good luck with the website, I was simply questioning the need.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 05, 2010, 02:59:00 AM
Quote from: CSixx;536439
Don't let your thread go off on a tangent, derailing you is not my intent.

Good luck with the website, I was simply questioning the need.

Thanks! I apologize for venting, but just felt the "oh, one of those types" comment was uncalled for.

I plan to start re-coding the site to work on legacy Amiga, something some of the other sites can't currently do. This will take time though. So, that may answer your question as to the need. ;)

Thanks again,
Ed
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: amigadave on January 05, 2010, 03:56:41 AM
Quote from: palemoon;536333
First, my apologies to staff if this post is in the wrong place or not allowed. Please feel free to move it.

Being a long time Amiga user, owner, supporter, and developer...I decided it was time for Amiga to have a pure Social Site. I know that this site and others like it are more or less a social community. But, I thought we could use something different.

My site Dragon's Moon (http://dragonpalemoon.com) is totally free (Ad Free too). It has similar features to facebook. Members are free to join or create groups, have mini-blogs, and more. I will be adding more features to the site over the next few days.

Try it out, and I'm open to any suggestions on how to make it better.

Thanks!
Ed

Nice looking site.  I joined but then noticed ...................  Edited after I noticed that anyone can create a new group.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: AmigaHeretic on January 05, 2010, 04:11:41 AM
Quote from: amigadave;536443
Nice looking site.  I joined but then noticed ...................  Edited after I noticed that anyone can create a new group.


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Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 06, 2010, 04:19:18 AM
@AmigaHeretic: Thanks, I've just gouged my eyes out. lol

For those curious, I've started recoding the site to work on legacy Amiga stuff. It will take time though.
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: Cammy on January 06, 2010, 05:37:23 AM
Thanks palemoon, I look forward to trying it out and signing up from my A1200 when it's ready :)
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: save2600 on January 06, 2010, 05:39:27 AM
And me too, on my A2500 :-)
Title: Re: Dragon's Moon
Post by: palemoon on January 06, 2010, 06:26:46 AM
Quote from: Cammy;536702
Thanks palemoon, I look forward to trying it out and signing up from my A1200 when it's ready :)

Quote from: save2600;536703
And me too, on my A2500 :-)

Thanks! It shouldn't take more than a couple of weeks tops. And thanks to Cammy's suggestion, I have the tools to test it now. :)