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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Drummerboy on December 22, 2009, 02:03:16 AM

Title: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: Drummerboy on December 22, 2009, 02:03:16 AM

Hello,

Somebody can recomend to me any Atari ST and /  or 8Bit emulator for Amiga, but maybe can run in any A1200/030 OS 3.0 or A4000/040 OS 3.0.

Suggests?!..

Regards!

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: pan1k on December 22, 2009, 03:11:11 AM

HAtari for ST stuff... I use it on my mac..

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: TjLaZer on December 22, 2009, 04:49:25 AM

Quote from: Drummerboy;534772

Hello,

Somebody can recomend to me any Atari ST and /  or 8Bit emulator for Amiga, but maybe can run in any A1200/030 OS 3.0 or A4000/040 OS 3.0.

Suggests?!..

Regards!

There is Chemelion and Medusa for the AmigaDOS 1.3.  Thats all I know.

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: Drummerboy on December 23, 2009, 03:28:04 AM

Ok,

i will search  Chemelion, medusa and Hatari (i think i tried with  Hatari but not work for me..) anyway i will try!..

thanks!

regards!

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: fishy_fiz on December 23, 2009, 10:38:23 AM

Hatari is a pretty good emulator, but it uses SDL (ergo requires a graphics card), and is very slow on even '060,.. definately for amithlon and UAE people only for os3.x. The only real option for atari st emulation for classic users is STonX, which is a magnitude of times faster, and runs on AGA.

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: jj on December 23, 2009, 11:27:09 AM

You would think that an st emulator would be quite quick on the amiga, more or less the same machine. Only have to emualte the sub-standard graphics chip

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: shoggoth on December 23, 2009, 01:04:21 PM

Quote from: JJ;534897

You would think that an st emulator would be quite quick on the amiga, more or less the same machine. Only have to emualte the sub-standard graphics chip

It's easy to virtualize the operating system. It's a lot trickier to emulate the machine, at least if you want to be compatible with ... well most stuff. That's a huge difference. The interrupt controller, the blitter etc. Even the graphics hardware becomes slightly tricky, because the plane interleave is difficult to achieve on the Amiga w.o. having to shuffle the bitplanes manually (copper interleave afaik does longword interleave, while the ST uses 16 bit interleave). Even though it has the same CPU, you'll probably have to emulate it if you want some degree of hardware compatibility.

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: Drummerboy on December 24, 2009, 10:27:35 PM

Quote from: fishy_fiz;534894

Hatari is a pretty good emulator, but it uses SDL (ergo requires a graphics card), and is very slow on even '060,.. definately for amithlon and UAE people only for os3.x. The only real option for atari st emulation for classic users is STonX, which is a magnitude of times faster, and runs on AGA.

OK!.. good data!..

Thanks.. i will search STonX!

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: BooBoo1200 on December 27, 2009, 11:08:13 AM

Where can I find STonX? for AGA I can only find a version for Graphics cards

Theres a few emulators like Chemelion and Medusa best suited to 68000 that load TOS into memory and can run most GEM apps full speed - Ive also had Sundog and Colonial Conquest running.

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: Crumb on December 27, 2009, 03:01:13 PM

Quote from: Drummerboy;534772

Hello,

Somebody can recomend to me any Atari ST and /  or 8Bit emulator for Amiga, but maybe can run in any A1200/030 OS 3.0 or A4000/040 OS 3.0.

Suggests?!..

Regards!

Medusa hacked version may run. Chamaeleon requires kickstart 1.3 IIRC... and there was another one quite proffesional but I can't remember the name. It didn't support 040 IIRC and I have vague memories about Ralph Schmidt being its author.

Title: Re: -atari st or 8bit emulator
Post by: Drummerboy on December 31, 2009, 12:40:54 AM

Quote from: Crumb;535186

Medusa hacked version may run. Chamaeleon requires kickstart 1.3 IIRC... and there was another one quite proffesional but I can't remember the name. It didn't support 040 IIRC and I have vague memories about Ralph Schmidt being its author.

Where is available Medusa or Chemelion?.

I try to search, but cant find!..

Any suggest